Texas Jim Posted September 21, 2008 Report Share Posted September 21, 2008 Just a question and a couple of observations. I am making the ASSUMPTION that the people mentioned herein were some kind of dogooder/environmentalist type. Has anyone else had any incidents like this??? On my recent trip to Washington state and Oregon... Several times when I was on two lane roads and a couple of times on freeways, as I started to pass someone, the driver in front of me made motions with his hand or otherwise indicated he was not pleased with me passing him. A couple of times, on Interstate 5, from Washington down into Oregon, there would be two (usually very small) cars driving along side by side, at about 55, (speed limit was 65/70) imposing there own lower speed limits on everyone else. If you did find a wider place with extra lanes and passed them, they would honk at you and flash their lights at you. On my way to Crater Lake, on a two lane road, I had one guy in a Prius, actually roll down his window, stick his arm out the window, and motion me to STAY BEHIND HIM and not pass. One kinda funny thing about that... the next day as I was leaving Crater Lake... I was behind the same guy. Speed limit was 60... he was doing 35/40 in his Prius. He did the exact same thing. Stuck his arm out the window and motioned to me DO NOT PASS. As I started around him, he actually started to pull over to the center line to keep me from passing. After I passed him... he flashed his headlights at me several times to let me know that he was not pleased with me going faster then he was. In the 5400 miles of the trip, all of the weird incidents happened in Washington and Oregon. Mostly Oregon. I did not have a problem in any other state I was in and have never had anything like this happen before. Just wondering if anyone else has had any incidents like this. Any and all comments solicited and welcome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BodybyFisher Posted September 21, 2008 Report Share Posted September 21, 2008 These are the wackos that have hijacked the Democratic party, how ridiculous, that they impose their own law to force you to stay below the posted speed limits. What has law enforcement done about this?, this is against the law. This is forcing others against their will, to drive below post limits due to their ideology. Is it any wonder they don't want to drill. When one of these limp wrists is run off the road or killed by someone who believes its their right to go the speed limit, it will be interesting to see the trial, this is why its important to have balance in our Judicial system. This is how they think <a href="http://ideas.4brad.com/archives/000115.html" target="_blank">http://ideas.4brad.com/archives/000115.html</a> Pre-1995 - DTC codes OBD1 >> 1996 and newer - DTC codes OBD2 >> https://www.obd-codes.com/trouble_codes/gm/obd_codes.htm How to check for codes Caddyinfo How To Technical Archive >> http://www.caddyinfo.com/wordpress/cadillac-how-to-faq/ Cadillac History & Specifications Year by Year http://www.motorera.com/cadillac/index.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KHE Posted September 21, 2008 Report Share Posted September 21, 2008 This is how they think <a href="http://ideas.4brad.com/archives/000115.html" target="_blank">http://ideas.4brad.com/archives/000115.html</a> That guy in the link has WAY too much time on his hands... what a cretin. There was an article in the paper a few days ago where the flower-huggers were all upset about great lakes freighters hosing their decks off once they are out in the lake. They claim all sorts of damage is being done, blah, blah... They want the shipping industry to incorporate a retention system so that ore, limestone, etc. doesn't get washed overboard. The cost of such systems along with the cost of operating the systems according to the Coast Guard would exceed the profit of the entire shipping industry. The Coast Guard further stated there was no evidence of damage in the 150 years that freighters were hosing their decks off... It never ceases to amaze me how little common sense is possesed by those types of people... they won't be happy unless we're all living in caves. I'd like to know what they do for a living... I don't stand for polluting but these people have WAY too much power. Kevin '93 Fleetwood Brougham '05 Deville '04 Deville 2013 Silverado Z71 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texas Jim Posted September 21, 2008 Author Report Share Posted September 21, 2008 These are the wackos that have hijacked the Democratic party, how ridiculous, that they impose their own law to force you to stay below the posted speed limits. What has law enforcement done about this?, this is against the law. This is forcing others against their will, to drive below post limits due to their ideology. Is it any wonder they don't want to drill. When one of these limp wrists is run off the road or killed by someone who believes its their right to go the speed limit, it will be interesting to see the trial, this is why its important to have balance in our Judicial system. This is how they think <a href="http://ideas.4brad.com/archives/000115.html" target="_blank">http://ideas.4brad.com/archives/000115.html</a> I am not sure that they were actually breaking the LAW...per se. The minimum speed was posted as 45... They were doing about 55. Speed limit in most places was 70. It WAS very irritating. Wonder what they thought of the Northstar sound at WOT at 6500 RPM as I passed them? THAT part was fun. As for the (in) justice system... there is no balance any more. It has been subjugated and perverted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrEldo97 Posted September 21, 2008 Report Share Posted September 21, 2008 These are the wackos that have hijacked the Democratic party To be sure, which is why I haven't voted for a democRat since George McGovern in 1972. I was recently sent a cartoon of what this hippie type thinks of those of us who don't subscribe to their nitwit groupthink; I don't have the cartoon, but I can describe it. We have all seen the political maps of the USA that are Blue and Red, well, in this cartoon the red area is labeled as "Dumbf**kistan"... I moved from Massachusetts to Florida a few years ago - it wasn't the weather that drove me out but the climate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BodybyFisher Posted September 21, 2008 Report Share Posted September 21, 2008 Intentionally impeding the free movement of another person, is against the law. Think of it as if someone impeded you from walking on a sidewalk. I need to check the drivers manual, but I do believe it states that you must move right to allow vehicles to pass. What are they going to allow an emergency vehicle to pass, but not allow me in my Deville to pass?, suppose someone in my car needed medical attention? I have been trying to remember what the proper term is for what they are doing, but can't muster it up.. Its antagonistic, that is for sure, it is stopping my free motion, its strong arming and controlling others against their will. These people think that their 'passive' ways of breaking the law are ok. They set fires, Set fires at planned parenthood centers, arson Throw paint on people wearing animal fur, that is assault. Set fires to homes under construction because they don't agree with the size, even thought the house is built to allowable local zoning codes. Attack Republican delegates throwing substances on them, two weeks ago. They don't understand that by doing things like this, they disturb the peace, they infringe on other peoples rights and the police come down one them because they are a danger to other innocent people because they throw, spit and hurl things. This is extreme sick aberrant behavior for ANY reason. Its I know there are more examples of their extreme behavior, it will come to me. What is the word for what they do, extortion?, I am not sure that is the correct term. They are forcing THEIR belief system down other peoples throats and no discussion is permitted. Laws mean nothing to them. Pre-1995 - DTC codes OBD1 >> 1996 and newer - DTC codes OBD2 >> https://www.obd-codes.com/trouble_codes/gm/obd_codes.htm How to check for codes Caddyinfo How To Technical Archive >> http://www.caddyinfo.com/wordpress/cadillac-how-to-faq/ Cadillac History & Specifications Year by Year http://www.motorera.com/cadillac/index.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
navion Posted September 21, 2008 Report Share Posted September 21, 2008 These are the wackos that have hijacked the Democratic party, how ridiculous, that they impose their own law to force you to stay below the posted speed limits. What has law enforcement done about this?, this is against the law. This is forcing others against their will, to drive below post limits due to their ideology. Is it any wonder they don't want to drill. When one of these limp wrists is run off the road or killed by someone who believes its their right to go the speed limit, it will be interesting to see the trial, this is why its important to have balance in our Judicial system. This is how they think <a href="http://ideas.4brad.com/archives/000115.html" target="_blank">http://ideas.4brad.com/archives/000115.html</a> I am not sure that they were actually breaking the LAW...per se. The minimum speed was posted as 45... They were doing about 55. Speed limit in most places was 70. It WAS very irritating. Wonder what they thought of the Northstar sound at WOT at 6500 RPM as I passed them? THAT part was fun. As for the (in) justice system... there is no balance any more. It has been subjugated and perverted. These self righteous, elitist idiots will stop at nothing to impose their views on the rest of us. It would not surprise me at all if some of these whackos start shooting people who drive Hummers, pick-ups, Cadillacs, Lincolns, BMWs and the like. People driving Volvos will be spared, however. As for the law, driving slower than the speed limit, but above minimum is not illegal. However, intentionally impeding the flow of traffic, in most states IS illegal. This type of behavior leads to road rage. A Prius would make a poor match for a Hummer or my '05 2500 HD pick-up! Britt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texas Jim Posted September 21, 2008 Author Report Share Posted September 21, 2008 how ridiculous, that they impose their own law to force you to stay below the posted speed limits. this is against the law. This is forcing others against their will, to drive below post limits due to their ideology. It would not surprise me at all if some of these whackos start shooting people who drive Hummers, pick-ups, Cadillacs, Lincolns, BMWs and the like. People driving Volvos will be spared, however. As for the law, driving slower than the speed limit, but above minimum is not illegal. However, intentionally impeding the flow of traffic, in most states IS illegal. This type of behavior leads to road rage. A Prius would make a poor match for a Hummer or my '05 2500 HD pick-up! Navion and Mike, You all are right. I wasn't thinking about the "IMPEDING TRAFFIC/MY MOVEMENT" part of it. Now that I think of it, (with y'alls help)... most states have signs posted... SLOWER TRAFFIC KEEP RIGHT. As for shooting someone... MOST of them would p down their leg if they even SEEN a gun much less had to actually TOUCH one. But there are always exceptions so that might be a possibility. I doubt that a Prius would fare too well against my two and a half ton DTS either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave in Texas Posted September 21, 2008 Report Share Posted September 21, 2008 Now I realize gas has nearly doubled in price since, but.....2yrs ago I made a 4500mi round-trip from Texas to New England. Gas was in the low $2 range way back then.....remember those good old days? Anyway, on the Interstates I kept the cruise set at 75mph. I had to keep right just to not get run over by motorists and truckers! GM Reman 4.1 engine Dec '08 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KHE Posted September 21, 2008 Report Share Posted September 21, 2008 An interesting thing to do with the idiot who kept crowding the centerline to prevent you from passing - call 911, tell the dispatcher that some idiot is either drunk or on drugs and weaving all over the place, running prople off the road. Provide the description of the car and license number. You would be AMAZED on how fast the cops would have him pulled over. Kevin '93 Fleetwood Brougham '05 Deville '04 Deville 2013 Silverado Z71 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruce Nunnally Posted September 21, 2008 Report Share Posted September 21, 2008 I have not experienced this. However I agree that the correct thing to do is copy down their license/tags and alert the police that they are driving dangerously. It may even give them a clue or at least pause if you merely make it obvious that you / your passenger ARE copying down their license plate number. Bruce 2023 Cadillac CT4-V Blackwing Follow me on: Twitter Instagram Youtube Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BodybyFisher Posted September 21, 2008 Report Share Posted September 21, 2008 This is so true, about 3 years ago, I witnessed a guy weaving in and out of traffic and he gently side swiped a car and he took off. Of course I look for any LEGAL reason to open my Northstar up, so I was in pursuit and I was quickly patched into the State Police who asked for mile marker information, description, etc and they within 4 minutes had him nailed. They knew I was a Cadillac in pursuit of this guy with the victim trailing. He told me what entrance ramp he was coming on. I was doing 80 when the officer passed me and nodded and I quickly backed off. He put his lights on and stopped the guy. They had all my information, in case they needed a witness. Dial 911 Likewise, when they saw my Northstar explode into the chase, I am sure it was impressive. Lately since I did my front engine mount WOTs are neck braking, but getting back on topic, laws need to be enforced no matter the reason. Pre-1995 - DTC codes OBD1 >> 1996 and newer - DTC codes OBD2 >> https://www.obd-codes.com/trouble_codes/gm/obd_codes.htm How to check for codes Caddyinfo How To Technical Archive >> http://www.caddyinfo.com/wordpress/cadillac-how-to-faq/ Cadillac History & Specifications Year by Year http://www.motorera.com/cadillac/index.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed Hall Posted September 21, 2008 Report Share Posted September 21, 2008 I give those elitist idiots a thick fog of black sooty mosquito killing smoke in my 1982 Diesel Suburban. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarrenJ Posted September 21, 2008 Report Share Posted September 21, 2008 . . . Lately since I did my front engine mount WOTs are neck braking . . . :D There is no means of avoiding the final collapse of a boom brought about by credit expansion. The alternative is only whether the crisis should come sooner as the result of a voluntary abandonment of further credit expansion, or later as a final and total catastrophe of the currency system involved. - Ludwig von Mises Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winterset Posted September 22, 2008 Report Share Posted September 22, 2008 Yep, I experienced this just this weekend. I was yeilding to right of way traffic, when clear, I pulled onto the highway, & go in the left lane, applied a WOT, and quickly passed the car I yielded to. I continued in my lane with the slower car in the right lane. As I passed, the vehicle flashed lights at me. I looked down to see if I was speeding to see I was only at 45 on a 50mph road. I thought WTF. They must have got pissed off when they say a caddy & heard the roar of a NS at WOT, and felt they were being good environmental/social citizens to alert me that I was accelerating too fast for them - what A$$holes!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruce Nunnally Posted September 22, 2008 Report Share Posted September 22, 2008 In some areas, flashing your headlights is an indication that the car / truck which has passed you is now safe to pull back in to your lane. I will often do this for trucks so they know they have cleared my space and can pull back in to my lane. Just saying. Bruce 2023 Cadillac CT4-V Blackwing Follow me on: Twitter Instagram Youtube Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BodybyFisher Posted September 22, 2008 Report Share Posted September 22, 2008 In some areas, flashing your headlights is an indication that the car / truck which has passed you is now safe to pull back in to your lane. I will often do this for trucks so they know they have cleared my space and can pull back in to my lane. Just saying. I do the same, and they always show their appreciation by flashing their running lights Pre-1995 - DTC codes OBD1 >> 1996 and newer - DTC codes OBD2 >> https://www.obd-codes.com/trouble_codes/gm/obd_codes.htm How to check for codes Caddyinfo How To Technical Archive >> http://www.caddyinfo.com/wordpress/cadillac-how-to-faq/ Cadillac History & Specifications Year by Year http://www.motorera.com/cadillac/index.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TDK Posted September 22, 2008 Report Share Posted September 22, 2008 One Word says it all around here: CALIFORNIFICATION. Wikipedia even has an extensive explanation, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Californication_(portmanteau) Rather than call the Cops on the cellphone and start a game of "he said, she said", just jet past as hard as possible. With any amount of luck they will choke on their granola and latte as they gasp... With all due respect to those economy-minded drivers, (and there is a time and place for that certainly), this behavior is no differant than those who may "eco-terrorize" others by coasting and snail-pacing to achieve ultra-high mileage at the expense of everyone else on the road. I fear that fuel economy, driving styles, regulations, etc - may result in even more such encounters - culminating with violence on one side or another or both. Then my friends, "Al Quaida" and all others that hate Amearica - have truely scored a victory on our way of life. Sorry for the downbeat... Add power to leave problems behind. Most braking is just - poor planning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BodybyFisher Posted September 22, 2008 Report Share Posted September 22, 2008 winterset, you are in NJ no? I can't believe that this happened in NJ, the roads are bad enough without distractions from A-holes. I have to work on getting my middle finger out of the drivers window faster, maybe Ill get a sunroof Pre-1995 - DTC codes OBD1 >> 1996 and newer - DTC codes OBD2 >> https://www.obd-codes.com/trouble_codes/gm/obd_codes.htm How to check for codes Caddyinfo How To Technical Archive >> http://www.caddyinfo.com/wordpress/cadillac-how-to-faq/ Cadillac History & Specifications Year by Year http://www.motorera.com/cadillac/index.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarrenJ Posted September 22, 2008 Report Share Posted September 22, 2008 In some areas, flashing your headlights is an indication that the car / truck which has passed you is now safe to pull back in to your lane. I will often do this for trucks so they know they have cleared my space and can pull back in to my lane. Just saying. I do the same, and they always show their appreciation by flashing their running lights That's been my experience. It's a courtesy I really appreciate. There is no means of avoiding the final collapse of a boom brought about by credit expansion. The alternative is only whether the crisis should come sooner as the result of a voluntary abandonment of further credit expansion, or later as a final and total catastrophe of the currency system involved. - Ludwig von Mises Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texas Jim Posted September 22, 2008 Author Report Share Posted September 22, 2008 In some areas, flashing your headlights is an indication that the car / truck which has passed you is now safe to pull back in to your lane. I will often do this for trucks so they know they have cleared my space and can pull back in to my lane. Just saying. Yep, I understand all that. I do it myself... especially for trucks. I drove trucks for a living for a number of years. I can't EXPLAIN IT... but you can tell the difference when it is a courtesy and when it is not. These were NOT courtesy flashes. Not after they had waved their arm out of the window ... telling you DO NOT PASS ME. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BodybyFisher Posted September 22, 2008 Report Share Posted September 22, 2008 Please Lord, do not let me cross paths with one of these individuals I better read up http://www.roadragers.com/road-rage-advice.htm Pre-1995 - DTC codes OBD1 >> 1996 and newer - DTC codes OBD2 >> https://www.obd-codes.com/trouble_codes/gm/obd_codes.htm How to check for codes Caddyinfo How To Technical Archive >> http://www.caddyinfo.com/wordpress/cadillac-how-to-faq/ Cadillac History & Specifications Year by Year http://www.motorera.com/cadillac/index.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarrenJ Posted September 22, 2008 Report Share Posted September 22, 2008 I can't EXPLAIN IT... but you can tell the difference when it is a courtesy and when it is not. These were NOT courtesy flashes. Not after they had waved their arm out of the window ... telling you DO NOT PASS ME. I'm no doubt wrong, but I'm left to wonder to which political party these folk belong. Probably the one claiming rights for all that espouse only their beliefs; the rest be damned! There is no means of avoiding the final collapse of a boom brought about by credit expansion. The alternative is only whether the crisis should come sooner as the result of a voluntary abandonment of further credit expansion, or later as a final and total catastrophe of the currency system involved. - Ludwig von Mises Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texas Jim Posted September 22, 2008 Author Report Share Posted September 22, 2008 I'm no doubt wrong, but I'm left to wonder to which political party these folk belong. Probably the one claiming rights for all that espouse only their beliefs; the rest be damned! No, of course it couldn't possibly be. Certainly I'm wrong again. Yeah... you are probably wrong... but on second thought.... maybe not. jk I am normally not much of a betting man, but I would bet I can guess, what the party beliefs would be, if we took a poll of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarrenJ Posted September 22, 2008 Report Share Posted September 22, 2008 I'm no doubt wrong, but I'm left to wonder to which political party these folk belong. Probably the one claiming rights for all that espouse only their beliefs; the rest be damned! No, of course it couldn't possibly be. Certainly I'm wrong again. Yeah... you are probably wrong... but on second thought.... maybe not. jk I am normally not much of a betting man, but I would bet I can guess, what the party beliefs would be, if we took a poll of them. Ya think ?!? There is no means of avoiding the final collapse of a boom brought about by credit expansion. The alternative is only whether the crisis should come sooner as the result of a voluntary abandonment of further credit expansion, or later as a final and total catastrophe of the currency system involved. - Ludwig von Mises Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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