BodybyFisher Posted November 27, 2011 Report Share Posted November 27, 2011 I have 7 new strands of Christmas lights. Supposedly they are 'commericial' quality. The box states GE, but made in CHINA is printed clearly on the box. I won't go into the details as I am currently po'd at how bad they are, but suffice it to say that the first four boxes have been defective out of the box. Each strand has three sections, some have one section out some two sections, some I have sitting there LIT, and they JUST GO OUT on their own. THEY ARE GARBAGE!!!!!! And to make matters worse, I bought them at an end of the season sale last year and I am stuck with them because I can't return them. I have fixed them, and the common problems are bulb leads that have broken off flush to the bulb and socket contacts that are not seated properly in the manufacturing process. GARBAGE I have seen crappy quality in other CHINESE items over the years. WHY? Why did the US ship all of our manufacturing to a COMMUNIST COUNTRY? For cheap labor? To increase profit to net a poorer quality product? Did this happen because of profit?, did this happen because of environmentalists? did this happen because of over regulation?, did this happen because of the Clintons? Why do we put up with this? Doesnt this poor quality present opportunities for someone to step up and produce a good product? Pre-1995 - DTC codes OBD1 >> 1996 and newer - DTC codes OBD2 >> https://www.obd-codes.com/trouble_codes/gm/obd_codes.htm How to check for codes Caddyinfo How To Technical Archive >> http://www.caddyinfo.com/wordpress/cadillac-how-to-faq/ Cadillac History & Specifications Year by Year http://www.motorera.com/cadillac/index.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimD Posted November 27, 2011 Report Share Posted November 27, 2011 Doesnt this poor quality present opportunities for someone to step up and produce a good product? Yes and no. The quality is what it is because the off-shore labor is not focused on producing a quality product; the focus is on cost. Brutal facts are--- it is less expensive to ship raw materials to Asia and ship the finished product back to California than it is to absorb the regulatory costs of building a facility in the US and paying US labor costs plus the employer's share of FICA. You could assemble a better quality product here but the off-shore product would be priced lower in the retail outlet. Guess which product the throw-away consumer in the US is going to purchase!! Jim Drive your car. Use your cell phone. CHOOSE ONE ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BodybyFisher Posted November 27, 2011 Author Report Share Posted November 27, 2011 True Jim, here is an article that covers what you are saying, that I found interesting http://ezinearticles...Poor&id=3299354 Personally, I am beginning to see GE as an evil empire, see the list of MEDIA outlets it owns here. The CEO has been on stage with Obama, and the corporation paid no taxes I understand http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_assets_owned_by_General_Electric Pre-1995 - DTC codes OBD1 >> 1996 and newer - DTC codes OBD2 >> https://www.obd-codes.com/trouble_codes/gm/obd_codes.htm How to check for codes Caddyinfo How To Technical Archive >> http://www.caddyinfo.com/wordpress/cadillac-how-to-faq/ Cadillac History & Specifications Year by Year http://www.motorera.com/cadillac/index.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ranger Posted November 28, 2011 Report Share Posted November 28, 2011 Made in China is today what made in Japan used to be. My kids wouldn't understand that, but I know you two do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texas Jim Posted November 28, 2011 Report Share Posted November 28, 2011 Made in China is today what made in Japan used to be. My kids wouldn't understand that, but I know you two do. I understand it too... :) And I agree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruce Nunnally Posted November 28, 2011 Report Share Posted November 28, 2011 Stores sell cheap imported goods because people buy them. To encourage stores to sell higher quality goods, we need to insist on and purchase higher quality goods. As they say, follow the money and you can predict behavior. Bruce 2023 Cadillac CT4-V Blackwing Follow me on: Twitter Instagram Youtube Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KHE Posted November 29, 2011 Report Share Posted November 29, 2011 Stores sell cheap imported goods because people buy them. To encourage stores to sell higher quality goods, we need to insist on and purchase higher quality goods. As they say, follow the money and you can predict behavior. Unfortunately, in many cases, there is not a choice anymore. Kevin '93 Fleetwood Brougham '05 Deville '04 Deville 2013 Silverado Z71 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarrenJ Posted November 29, 2011 Report Share Posted November 29, 2011 There may be reason to hope... "A surprising amount of work that rushed to China over the past decade could soon start to come back," said BCG's Harold Sirkin. The gap in "productivity-adjusted wages" will narrow from 22pc of US levels in 2005 to 43pc (61pc for the US South) by 2015. Add in shipping costs, reliability woes, technology piracy, and the advantage shifts back to the US. The list of "repatriates" is growing. Farouk Systems is bringing back assembly of hair dryers to Texas after counterfeiting problems; ET Water Systems has switched its irrigation products to California; Master Lock is returning to Milwaukee, and NCR is bringing back its ATM output to Georgia. NatLabs is coming home to Florida. Boston Consulting expects up to 800,000 manufacturing jobs to return to the US by mid-decade, with a multiplier effect creating 3.2m in total. This would take some sting out of the Long Slump." World power swings back to America There is no means of avoiding the final collapse of a boom brought about by credit expansion. The alternative is only whether the crisis should come sooner as the result of a voluntary abandonment of further credit expansion, or later as a final and total catastrophe of the currency system involved. - Ludwig von Mises Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarrenJ Posted November 29, 2011 Report Share Posted November 29, 2011 This thread reminded me of one of my favorite photos. . . having to do with a Chinese toy recall. There is no means of avoiding the final collapse of a boom brought about by credit expansion. The alternative is only whether the crisis should come sooner as the result of a voluntary abandonment of further credit expansion, or later as a final and total catastrophe of the currency system involved. - Ludwig von Mises Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BodybyFisher Posted November 29, 2011 Author Report Share Posted November 29, 2011 There may be reason to hope... "A surprising amount of work that rushed to China over the past decade could soon start to come back," said BCG's Harold Sirkin. The gap in "productivity-adjusted wages" will narrow from 22pc of US levels in 2005 to 43pc (61pc for the US South) by 2015. Add in shipping costs, reliability woes, technology piracy, and the advantage shifts back to the US. The list of "repatriates" is growing. Farouk Systems is bringing back assembly of hair dryers to Texas after counterfeiting problems; ET Water Systems has switched its irrigation products to California; Master Lock is returning to Milwaukee, and NCR is bringing back its ATM output to Georgia. NatLabs is coming home to Florida. Boston Consulting expects up to 800,000 manufacturing jobs to return to the US by mid-decade, with a multiplier effect creating 3.2m in total. This would take some sting out of the Long Slump." <a class="bbc_url" title="External link" href="http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/comment/ambroseevans_pritchard/8844646/World-power-swings-back-to-America.html#disqus_thread" rel="nofollow"> World power swings back to America This is what I am hoping for Pre-1995 - DTC codes OBD1 >> 1996 and newer - DTC codes OBD2 >> https://www.obd-codes.com/trouble_codes/gm/obd_codes.htm How to check for codes Caddyinfo How To Technical Archive >> http://www.caddyinfo.com/wordpress/cadillac-how-to-faq/ Cadillac History & Specifications Year by Year http://www.motorera.com/cadillac/index.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texas Jim Posted November 29, 2011 Report Share Posted November 29, 2011 I worked for a major bank for the last 11 years, doing ONSITE PC and printer repair. The number of parts I used that were bad, right out of the box, was amazing. Most of the parts were refurbished, but it didn't really matter too much if it was refurb or NEW. If the box was stamped "MADE IN CHINA" ... it was a big gamble on if it was gonna work after I installed it. All the bad parts cost me (and my company) a LOT OF TIME and expense... doing paperwork and then returning them for a replacement. It was pretty easy to see the amount of returns rise as time went on... Eleven years ago... not many returns at all... When I retired at the end of last year... it was a pretty large percentage of parts that got returned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigburban Posted November 30, 2011 Report Share Posted November 30, 2011 Made in China is today what made in Japan used to be. My kids wouldn't understand that, but I know you two do. I understand it too... :) And I agree. I understand. But IMHO the Japanese were interest in improving quality, I don't see that coming out of china. Just worse quality every year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarrenJ Posted November 30, 2011 Report Share Posted November 30, 2011 WHY? Why did the US ship all of our manufacturing to a COMMUNIST COUNTRY? For cheap labor? To increase profit to net a poorer quality product? Did this happen because of profit?, did this happen because of environmentalists? did this happen because of over regulation?, did this happen because of the Clintons? Why do we put up with this? As the saying goes, "money travels where it's treated best." The U.S. became the wealthiest country in the history of the known universe by being THE place for money to call home. And then that changed. Money will return here only when we make it welcome. Funny enough, this can be done easily and, most likely, at a tremendous profit. On the bright side GE has more debt than it can possibly repay. It will end badly for them unless Uncle Sam decides it wants to own yet another conglomerate. Government Electric anyone? And the singular answer to most of your questions is . . . yes! Regards, Warren There is no means of avoiding the final collapse of a boom brought about by credit expansion. The alternative is only whether the crisis should come sooner as the result of a voluntary abandonment of further credit expansion, or later as a final and total catastrophe of the currency system involved. - Ludwig von Mises Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BodybyFisher Posted November 30, 2011 Author Report Share Posted November 30, 2011 Speaking of GE read this. I for one will never buy GE again. What shocks and upsets me is that FOX NEWS had a GE advertisement on yesterday promoting how GE saves lives, FOX NEWS can be very hypocritical at times. GE could NEVER pay me enough to air one of their ads http://boycottgemsnb....com/index.html Pre-1995 - DTC codes OBD1 >> 1996 and newer - DTC codes OBD2 >> https://www.obd-codes.com/trouble_codes/gm/obd_codes.htm How to check for codes Caddyinfo How To Technical Archive >> http://www.caddyinfo.com/wordpress/cadillac-how-to-faq/ Cadillac History & Specifications Year by Year http://www.motorera.com/cadillac/index.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KHE Posted November 30, 2011 Report Share Posted November 30, 2011 Also shocking is the CEO of GE has a terrible performance record and the board of directors does not fire him... that reeks of conspiricy or a board of directors that is clueless. Kevin '93 Fleetwood Brougham '05 Deville '04 Deville 2013 Silverado Z71 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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