scott y Posted January 20, 2011 Report Share Posted January 20, 2011 Tonite, my buddy and I went at it...My 94 STS OBLITERATED his Chevy Pickup Truck(99) easily ...Holy crap...We met at a stop light just to goof around,after some wings and beer,The ol'94 just got up and destroyed the 99 chevy Grand Cadillac... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scott y Posted January 20, 2011 Author Report Share Posted January 20, 2011 Not sayin that we were drinking and driving...|I was consuming root beer..but man it was fun to destroy an ol 305fried.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scott y Posted January 20, 2011 Author Report Share Posted January 20, 2011 Also for a 94 I really love the Zebrano wood of this car...The wood is Gorgeous! It haas Natural Wood that many high end cars'd never expected to be adorned with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scott y Posted January 20, 2011 Author Report Share Posted January 20, 2011 Do Devilles of the same years have Real Wood? 94 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rockfangd Posted January 20, 2011 Report Share Posted January 20, 2011 also love the real wood, last year for the deville was 96. 97 cheap plastic wood, GM FAN FOREVER Nice, clean, luxury= fine automobile Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cadillac Jim Posted January 20, 2011 Report Share Posted January 20, 2011 The 1997 Eldorado has real Zebrano wood. I believe the Deville does to for 1997, at least those that have a center floor console with floor shift, because I haven't noticed anything in my 1997 FSM about a separate dashboard setup for the Deville. -- Click Here for CaddyInfo page on "How To" Read Your OBD Codes-- Click Here for my personal page to download my OBD code list as an Excel file, plus other Cadillac data -- See my CaddyInfo car blogs: 2011 CTS-V, 1997 ETC Yes, I was Jims_97_ETC before I changed cars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BodybyFisher Posted January 20, 2011 Report Share Posted January 20, 2011 I think I once heard that the 94 was the quickest Northstar. Pre-1995 - DTC codes OBD1 >> 1996 and newer - DTC codes OBD2 >> https://www.obd-codes.com/trouble_codes/gm/obd_codes.htm How to check for codes Caddyinfo How To Technical Archive >> http://www.caddyinfo.com/wordpress/cadillac-how-to-faq/ Cadillac History & Specifications Year by Year http://www.motorera.com/cadillac/index.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KHE Posted January 20, 2011 Report Share Posted January 20, 2011 The '95 - '97s were the fastest. '95 was when the plastic intake was first use resulting in 5 more HP. That said, the first Northstar I ever drove was a '98 STS with the Z package that the company I worked for at the time was using for development work for GM. I had it up to 144 MPH..... a couple of years later, I bought a '96 SLS. Kevin '93 Fleetwood Brougham '05 Deville '04 Deville 2013 Silverado Z71 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texas Jim Posted January 20, 2011 Report Share Posted January 20, 2011 The '95 - '97s were the fastest. '95 was when the plastic intake was first use resulting in 5 more HP. That said, the first Northstar I ever drove was a '98 STS with the Z package that the company I worked for at the time was using for development work for GM. I had it up to 144 MPH..... a couple of years later, I bought a '96 SLS. That's the exact same speed I had mine up to a while back... It was still pulling pretty good, but I was gaining on some cars and had to back off. I have often wondered what it would actually top out at??? Out in New Mexico, Arizona and Utah...I have did some 130 + cruising for miles and miles. Depending on traffic and road conditions of course... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BodybyFisher Posted January 20, 2011 Report Share Posted January 20, 2011 Man those speeds scare me. Oddly enough however, doing 155 in the CTS-v after a couple of laps with Ari at Monticello didnt scare me however... I believe you guys, but someplace I recall someone saying the 94 was a rocket, and you know my memory with this stuff, but I believe you on the 95 to 97s Pre-1995 - DTC codes OBD1 >> 1996 and newer - DTC codes OBD2 >> https://www.obd-codes.com/trouble_codes/gm/obd_codes.htm How to check for codes Caddyinfo How To Technical Archive >> http://www.caddyinfo.com/wordpress/cadillac-how-to-faq/ Cadillac History & Specifications Year by Year http://www.motorera.com/cadillac/index.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cadillac Jim Posted January 20, 2011 Report Share Posted January 20, 2011 I would go with the 1995-1997 STS, because the 1998 platform change added a couple of hundred pounds. The car magazine 0-60 mph times went from about 6.5 seconds to 6.8 seconds that year. The Eldorado is a couple of hundred pounds lighter than the Seville, and published 0-60 mph times ran around 6.3 seconds for 1995 and later. The Eldorado never had a platform change after 1992. There was a special edition in the last year, 2002, that featured an "enhanced" exhaust note that was said to resemble that of the first Eldorados of the 1950's that may have had slightly better performance from removal of some exhaust restriction. My owner's manual states that, with Z-rated tires and the governor removed, my car will go 150 mph. C&D clocked one at 145 mph during testing. My feel for my car is that its top speed, were the governor removed, would be in the 150 mph range, depending on the gas, weather, altitude, and road. -- Click Here for CaddyInfo page on "How To" Read Your OBD Codes-- Click Here for my personal page to download my OBD code list as an Excel file, plus other Cadillac data -- See my CaddyInfo car blogs: 2011 CTS-V, 1997 ETC Yes, I was Jims_97_ETC before I changed cars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texas Jim Posted January 20, 2011 Report Share Posted January 20, 2011 My owner's manual states that, with Z-rated tires and the governor removed, my car will go 150 mph. C&D clocked one at 145 mph during testing. My feel for my car is that its top speed, were the governor removed, would be in the 150 mph range, depending on the gas, weather, altitude, and road. That's about what I think about mine also. My governor is set at 190... so for all practical purposes it is removed. According to Bruce's instrumentation and according to the guy that "TUNED" my NorthStar...mine is putting out around 330 HP. Based on that... and how well it was running at 144... I think it would do just as you said... just a little over 150. Which, when you think about it.... isn't all that slouchy for a 2.5 ton Cadillac while riding along in comfort on the Air Conditioned seat, listening to XM radio and getting a back massage... all at the same time. :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scott y Posted January 20, 2011 Author Report Share Posted January 20, 2011 I did't know the Devilles are 5000lbs. My 76 Fleetwood Brougham is 53-5500lbs. and one hell of a lot Bigger! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BodybyFisher Posted January 20, 2011 Report Share Posted January 20, 2011 I did't know the Devilles are 5000lbs. My 76 Fleetwood Brougham is 53-5500lbs. and one hell of a lot Bigger! My 74 Eldorado Conv, was 4,690 pounds but I thought it was a LOT heavier, for some reason I recall my registration stating it was over 5000. It was so long, that when you jacked it up, the space at the top of the door closed up, not having a top really made the frame flexible. According to this link the 76 Fleetwood Brougham was 5213 pounds http://www.motorera.com/cadillac/cad1970/CAD76B.HTM Pre-1995 - DTC codes OBD1 >> 1996 and newer - DTC codes OBD2 >> https://www.obd-codes.com/trouble_codes/gm/obd_codes.htm How to check for codes Caddyinfo How To Technical Archive >> http://www.caddyinfo.com/wordpress/cadillac-how-to-faq/ Cadillac History & Specifications Year by Year http://www.motorera.com/cadillac/index.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cadillac Jim Posted January 20, 2011 Report Share Posted January 20, 2011 There are several weights for cars. The dry weight is the weight without oil, gas, PS fluid, ATF, washer fluid, and possibly even brake fluid, possibly not even the battery or spare tire, and is often the shipping weight. The curb weight includes all fluids and half a tank (or a full tank) of gas and is a better weight to go by; that's the weight of the car when delivered to a buyer by the dealer. The weight that counts for the purposes of computing the performance is the actual weight (the curb weight, adjusted for amount of gas) plus the weight of the driver, passengers, and cargo. Most post-1991 Cadillac sedans and Eldorados (E/K/D platforms) weigh 4000 pounds plus or minus 200 pounds or so. -- Click Here for CaddyInfo page on "How To" Read Your OBD Codes-- Click Here for my personal page to download my OBD code list as an Excel file, plus other Cadillac data -- See my CaddyInfo car blogs: 2011 CTS-V, 1997 ETC Yes, I was Jims_97_ETC before I changed cars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scott y Posted January 21, 2011 Author Report Share Posted January 21, 2011 See this:http://www.motortrend.com/oftheyear/car/112_0601_coty_2006_cadillac_dts/specs_price.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texas Jim Posted January 21, 2011 Report Share Posted January 21, 2011 I weighed mine...without me in it...and a half tank of gas before Bruce tested it. 4750 pounds. So add about 200 for me...that makes it 4,950. Pretty close to 2 .5 tons. :D But my Texas registration says 4500 pounds Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cadillac Jim Posted January 21, 2011 Report Share Posted January 21, 2011 The TX registration is dry weight, you and Bruce measured curb weight. Figure 12 quarts of ATF, 7 quarts of oil, 1.5 quarts each of brake fluid and PS fluid, two quarts of windshield washer fluid, we have 24 quarts or six gallons. Add 20 gallons of gas for 26 gallons of fluids. Figure an average density of 6.4 pounds per gallon and we have 166.4 pounds of fluids. The difference you cite is 250 pounds, and this first cut is within 85 pounds of that. If the battery isn't in the dry weight, we are there. -- Click Here for CaddyInfo page on "How To" Read Your OBD Codes-- Click Here for my personal page to download my OBD code list as an Excel file, plus other Cadillac data -- See my CaddyInfo car blogs: 2011 CTS-V, 1997 ETC Yes, I was Jims_97_ETC before I changed cars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texas Jim Posted January 21, 2011 Report Share Posted January 21, 2011 The TX registration is dry weight, you and Bruce measured curb weight. Figure 12 quarts of ATF, 7 quarts of oil, 1.5 quarts each of brake fluid and PS fluid, two quarts of windshield washer fluid, we have 24 quarts or six gallons. Add 20 gallons of gas for 26 gallons of fluids. Figure an average density of 6.4 pounds per gallon and we have 166.4 pounds of fluids. The difference you cite is 250 pounds, and this first cut is within 85 pounds of that. If the battery isn't in the dry weight, we are there. Very cool. I have often wondered if that scale was just weighing "HEAVY"...but evidently it was accurate... Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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