brandon254 Posted April 11, 2010 Author Report Share Posted April 11, 2010 bbf when i first got the thoes codes where on the diagnostics so the laidy had the shift solenoids replaced by the same guy . and all it was is a disconnected wiring harness.so i think the mechanic took the shift solenoids out and didnt put them in right. and thats what is leaving me where i am at right now. i checked the codes last night all other codes have been removed their is no current codes just history e-029 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BodybyFisher Posted April 11, 2010 Report Share Posted April 11, 2010 all thees codes were current before i plugged the harness up. e028,e029,e039,e056,e057,e076,e094,e117. now it says e029 thats it. Brandon I want you to do me a favor, RE-READ this thread, you are going around in circles....this thread is virtually IMPOSSIBLE to understand. if I didnt know better I would think you were playing with me. What is the FN purpose of making the above FN statement at this POINT of THIS thread at this time if the FN PLUG is PLUGGED in NOW????????????????????? I am done with this, I seriously believe you have difficulty in communicating ideas and all we are doing here is CIRCLE JERKING, I'm done, take this to a mechanic Pre-1995 - DTC codes OBD1 >> 1996 and newer - DTC codes OBD2 >> https://www.obd-codes.com/trouble_codes/gm/obd_codes.htm How to check for codes Caddyinfo How To Technical Archive >> http://www.caddyinfo.com/wordpress/cadillac-how-to-faq/ Cadillac History & Specifications Year by Year http://www.motorera.com/cadillac/index.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brandon254 Posted April 11, 2010 Author Report Share Posted April 11, 2010 i think im gonna just part out this car if i replace the shift solenoids and it still doesnt work. and im not trying to confuse you im trying to tell you a little about what this car has been thru . this cars transmission was most likely working great before and after the car was driven thru deep water now since the motor was replaced a million problems formed . and the laidy tried to get it fixed and the mechanic messed it up more than he fixed. i just found out the only original thing in this car is the transmission. so work with me here im picking up where a so called "mechanic" left at. i need to know what is exactly wrong with this car so i can post it here . and i have been posting all issues with this car. this car is only giving me one trouble code now it is the shift b solenoid problem . in witch i will replace tommaro morning. i just hope this new shift solenoid kit works i would hate to see this car go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brandon254 Posted April 11, 2010 Author Report Share Posted April 11, 2010 where is the id tag for the motor? so i can make sure that it has the right motor in the car Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brandon254 Posted April 11, 2010 Author Report Share Posted April 11, 2010 body bye fisher. i am not playing with you. i cant type as fast as i think. so if i confused any one i do apologize. this car had alot of issues. the old codes i was talking about i wanted to know if those old codes could be effecting the transmission solenoids? those other codes are history codes i have one current code e-029. i also need to know sense the transmission was disconnected did that mess up any thing inside the transmission? i also need to make sure the motor is correct i need to know where the id tag is and how to read it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texas Jim Posted April 11, 2010 Report Share Posted April 11, 2010 I am not trying to speak for anyone but myself...but... I have followed this thread from the beginning, and it sure does get confusing at times. I have a couple of questions for Brandon... Does the engine start and run OK? If it does... we can leave the engine questions for later. It will be a lot easier...(and a lot less confusing)... if we work on one problem at a time. That seems to be the transmission shift solenoids. You have an E029 code...which is solenoid "B" Lets fix "THAT"...then go to something else... one thing at a time. In answer to your question about old codes... The "ONLY CODES" that will affect "ANYTHING" is a code that is showing "NOW" If you cleared a bunch of codes and they did not come back...then they are no longer relevant at this time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BodybyFisher Posted April 12, 2010 Report Share Posted April 12, 2010 Brandon, I want you to understand something. This is a give and take of information. You tell us the symptoms and codes, we from our experience attempt to help you. We are ONLY as good as the information and cooperation we get from you. IF you do not respond to our questions, if you do not do what we say, if you are contrary, defensive, argumentative or poor with your communication we will be unable to help you at all and it will be frustrating for you and us, which this has been for us, because you are all over the place with your responses. I want you to think of diagnosis as an INVERTED CONE. At the beginning of a problem diagnosis, you are at the top of the cone, and there are a lot of 'possibilities'. For instance, if your engine didn't start it could be, the battery, the battery connections, the security system, starter, fuel problems, etc....many possibilities. During your diagnosis you ELIMINATE problems through TESTING one by one till you get down to the SINGLE problem that is actually causing your problem, at the bottom of the inverted cone at the POINT.... This type of procedure, the inverted cone works flawlessly when both parties are communicating affectively. You are eliminating possibilities and refining your diagnosis till you find the problem. To randomly raise issues that are NO LONGER issues is distracting, time consuming and causes frustration on this end for all of us members. I have CLEARLY laid out steps for you and you have not responded so that I/we know you are following us. I am sorry for getting frustrated with you, but when you SUDDENLY out of SYNC for no reason post "all thees codes were current before i plugged the harness up. e028,e029,e039,e056,e057,e076,e094,e117. now it says e029 thats it" and your post #71 totally out of sync, it confuses EVERYTHING and throws a monkey wrench into it. Then all of a sudden we find out about CUT RADIO HARNESSES, 2002 ENGINES IN a 94, etc, etc, etc.... What happened with the shift solenoids, you were going to install them yesterday Pre-1995 - DTC codes OBD1 >> 1996 and newer - DTC codes OBD2 >> https://www.obd-codes.com/trouble_codes/gm/obd_codes.htm How to check for codes Caddyinfo How To Technical Archive >> http://www.caddyinfo.com/wordpress/cadillac-how-to-faq/ Cadillac History & Specifications Year by Year http://www.motorera.com/cadillac/index.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BSchlossmann Posted April 12, 2010 Report Share Posted April 12, 2010 I'm suspecting that Brandon254 is a troll of a different color? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BodybyFisher Posted April 12, 2010 Report Share Posted April 12, 2010 I'm suspecting that Brandon254 is a troll of a different color? That thought crossed my mind today while I was wallpapering. I am glad to see however that many of us have identified the difficulty / challenge of this interaction. We fixed the overheating by replacing a bad cap. Its possible that the problems Brandon is having are not possible to fix in this venue. If he has a 2002 engine, I am surprised there are no other ECM codes... but as you say, something isnt adding up Thanks Pre-1995 - DTC codes OBD1 >> 1996 and newer - DTC codes OBD2 >> https://www.obd-codes.com/trouble_codes/gm/obd_codes.htm How to check for codes Caddyinfo How To Technical Archive >> http://www.caddyinfo.com/wordpress/cadillac-how-to-faq/ Cadillac History & Specifications Year by Year http://www.motorera.com/cadillac/index.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PAUL T Posted April 12, 2010 Report Share Posted April 12, 2010 Brandon, only current codes matter at this point. Fix the solenoid and report back, then we can go to other issues. After the fix, clear your codes out, drive it, and let us know what codes, if any, come back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KHE Posted April 12, 2010 Report Share Posted April 12, 2010 where is the id tag for the motor? so i can make sure that it has the right motor in the car The engine serial number is pin coded into a flat area approximately 2" x 1/2" that is adjacent to the balancer pulley (right side of the engine). Post the engine serial number and your VIN so we can see what type of engine was installed in the car. Kevin '93 Fleetwood Brougham '05 Deville '04 Deville 2013 Silverado Z71 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brandon254 Posted April 12, 2010 Author Report Share Posted April 12, 2010 i replaced shift solenoids . but i have a new code e086 the service engin soon light came on.the e029 went away Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BodybyFisher Posted April 12, 2010 Report Share Posted April 12, 2010 P086 (E086) ................... Undefined Gear Ratio (Transmission Pressure Control) Are you sure that you didnt mix up the wires, and put the A wire on to the B solenoid and the B wire on to the A solenoid? Pre-1995 - DTC codes OBD1 >> 1996 and newer - DTC codes OBD2 >> https://www.obd-codes.com/trouble_codes/gm/obd_codes.htm How to check for codes Caddyinfo How To Technical Archive >> http://www.caddyinfo.com/wordpress/cadillac-how-to-faq/ Cadillac History & Specifications Year by Year http://www.motorera.com/cadillac/index.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brandon254 Posted April 12, 2010 Author Report Share Posted April 12, 2010 the a shift solenoid wont reach to the b solenoid . the wiring harness is kind of short. i plugged every thing up as in the same way i took it apart. the e-029 was coming from the shift solenoid the o ring was damaged . but now i am stuck with this new code and it shifts all weird Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brandon254 Posted April 13, 2010 Author Report Share Posted April 13, 2010 i drove it around some more and e-076 and e-086 is current. car shifts one time then stops . acts like it has no power at all Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BodybyFisher Posted April 13, 2010 Report Share Posted April 13, 2010 i drove it around some more and e-076 and e-086 is current. car shifts one time then stops . acts like it has no power at all P076 (E076) ......................................... Transmission Pressure Solenoid According to the manual, this code and E086 are related. Did you count 4 check balls and are they in the correct positions? It seems that this mechanics that left the plug unplugged was having the same problems. Did you check the diagrams I posted earlier to make sure the check balls were in the correct locations, or just leave them where they were? You should try cleaning the tranny plug, but the pressure solenoid is possibly bad, I believe that is located in the side pan, big job, you should have someone do that job Pre-1995 - DTC codes OBD1 >> 1996 and newer - DTC codes OBD2 >> https://www.obd-codes.com/trouble_codes/gm/obd_codes.htm How to check for codes Caddyinfo How To Technical Archive >> http://www.caddyinfo.com/wordpress/cadillac-how-to-faq/ Cadillac History & Specifications Year by Year http://www.motorera.com/cadillac/index.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brandon254 Posted April 13, 2010 Author Report Share Posted April 13, 2010 ya check balls have a concave or like a bevel in witch the check balls set in . on the black gasket thair in the shape of a tear drop. every thing is put back like i read. shift solenoids dont turn at all. removing the transmission is not a real hard task i have changed them out before. using a few jacks and jack stands. how far inside the transmission is this pressure solenoid? could that manifold pressure on top of the valve body be causing problems? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BodybyFisher Posted April 13, 2010 Report Share Posted April 13, 2010 The pressure solenoid is located in the side pan, you will need to drop/tilt the engine carriage to get at the side pan. I changed my pressure solenoid, TCC solenoid and ISS sensor two years ago. You should do some testing before doing so much work There is a test in the service manual, Ill post it later Pre-1995 - DTC codes OBD1 >> 1996 and newer - DTC codes OBD2 >> https://www.obd-codes.com/trouble_codes/gm/obd_codes.htm How to check for codes Caddyinfo How To Technical Archive >> http://www.caddyinfo.com/wordpress/cadillac-how-to-faq/ Cadillac History & Specifications Year by Year http://www.motorera.com/cadillac/index.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brandon254 Posted April 13, 2010 Author Report Share Posted April 13, 2010 man im going back to the driling rig so i wont have to mutch tme to work on the car. is thair anny tests i can do to check for bad pressure switch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brandon254 Posted April 16, 2010 Author Report Share Posted April 16, 2010 the sls broke down . its giving me e-080 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BodybyFisher Posted April 17, 2010 Report Share Posted April 17, 2010 the sls broke down . its giving me e-080 P080 (E080) ....................................................... Fuel System Rich Check your fuel pressure regulator Pre-1995 - DTC codes OBD1 >> 1996 and newer - DTC codes OBD2 >> https://www.obd-codes.com/trouble_codes/gm/obd_codes.htm How to check for codes Caddyinfo How To Technical Archive >> http://www.caddyinfo.com/wordpress/cadillac-how-to-faq/ Cadillac History & Specifications Year by Year http://www.motorera.com/cadillac/index.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brandon254 Posted April 18, 2010 Author Report Share Posted April 18, 2010 the car is setting on the side of the road . i put the car in gear and it wont move. i removed the transmission cap and the tranny fluid was rushing out. my wife said it drove fine all the way to work . and on the way back she stoped at the store it acted like it could not take off.she was driving for about 5 minutes at 40 mph and it just stopped doing any thing. the car has only one current code e-080 . the transmission plug does not have any type of gasket inside to block water or moisture. its been raining allot this week so streets are flooded. is it possible that the pcm shorted out . or if the plug is wet causing it to not work. or could it be an transmission short external? how would i figure this out? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarlaValentine Posted April 18, 2010 Report Share Posted April 18, 2010 the car is setting on the side of the road . i put the car in gear and it wont move. i removed the transmission cap and the tranny fluid was rushing out. my wife said it drove fine all the way to work . and on the way back she stoped at the store it acted like it could not take off.she was driving for about 5 minutes at 40 mph and it just stopped doing any thing. the car has only one current code e-080 . the transmission plug does not have any type of gasket inside to block water or moisture. its been raining allot this week so streets are flooded. is it possible that the pcm shorted out . or if the plug is wet causing it to not work. or could it be an transmission short external? how would i figure this out? If the car is running and you take the trans fluid cap off, fluid will come out because the cap is lower on the trans than the dipstick hole (at least on my car)...however, fluid should not come out of the dipstick hole whether it's running or not. If it does, then it is overfilled. Does the car still actually start and run? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KHE Posted April 18, 2010 Report Share Posted April 18, 2010 If the car is running and you take the trans fluid cap off, fluid will come out because the cap is lower on the trans than the dipstick hole (at least on my car)...however, fluid should not come out of the dipstick hole whether it's running or not. If it does, then it is overfilled. ????? The trans. fluid cap is the dipstick for the trans. If fluid is coming out when the cap is removed, it may be overfilled. Under normal circumstances, the transmission fluid needs to be checked with the engine warm and running. With the transmission cold, he needs to verify the fluid is at the "Cold" mark and then drive the car to warm it up and then check the fluid again to make sure it is in the normal wange on the stick. Kevin '93 Fleetwood Brougham '05 Deville '04 Deville 2013 Silverado Z71 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarlaValentine Posted April 18, 2010 Report Share Posted April 18, 2010 If the car is running and you take the trans fluid cap off, fluid will come out because the cap is lower on the trans than the dipstick hole (at least on my car)...however, fluid should not come out of the dipstick hole whether it's running or not. If it does, then it is overfilled. ????? The trans. fluid cap is the dipstick for the trans. If fluid is coming out when the cap is removed, it may be overfilled. Under normal circumstances, the transmission fluid needs to be checked with the engine warm and running. With the transmission cold, he needs to verify the fluid is at the "Cold" mark and then drive the car to warm it up and then check the fluid again to make sure it is in the normal wange on the stick. I'm almost 100% sure that mine has 2 caps...one is the dipstick, the other I'm not sure of. I'll have to double check now.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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