Frank T Posted September 2, 2014 Report Share Posted September 2, 2014 Hello all, I'll get right to the point of this thread. Everybody knows that head gaskets are prone to failure on the 96-2004 North*, would anybody here dish over 5k for a 99 Eldo with 29k miles and the coolant has never been changed? This sound like risky business to me. Even though the car has never seen winter, driven by a nice older gentleman, with a few bruises on all four corners from hitting the garage. Looking for your thoughts please, and thank you in advance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cadillacjeff7777 Posted September 2, 2014 Report Share Posted September 2, 2014 I personally wouldn't give $5k for a 16 year old dented up Caddy but if I'm iffy on something, I hold out for a good deal or walk. That said, if I got the seller to a price that I could work with, I'd have no problem buying it knowing the head gasket issues and plan on time-serting or studding it myself. 2008 DTS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KHE Posted September 2, 2014 Report Share Posted September 2, 2014 Clean retail is about $5000 for that car. The fact that it needs paint work would deduct from that amount since the car is not in clean retail shape. As far as the engine goes, It wouldn't bother me but I would change the coolant ASAP. Kevin '93 Fleetwood Brougham '05 Deville '04 Deville 2013 Silverado Z71 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barczy01 Posted September 2, 2014 Report Share Posted September 2, 2014 Thats a chunk of change that need body work too. I just picked up an 02' ETC 95K blown head gaskets ,741, real clean for 600$ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank T Posted September 2, 2014 Author Report Share Posted September 2, 2014 Thank you for the replies men, I appreciate it. I agree with you all, he would not budge on the price, the coolant was low and dirty. I passed, too bad, it drove real nice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
99EldoETC Posted September 2, 2014 Report Share Posted September 2, 2014 Perhaps, he will have a change of heart and come back with a more realistic counter-offer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KHE Posted September 3, 2014 Report Share Posted September 3, 2014 The coolant may be dirty due to the GM sealant pellets. They will make even new coolant look dirty. If the seller has your number and you're still interested in the car, just wait him out - he might come back with a counteroffer. Kevin '93 Fleetwood Brougham '05 Deville '04 Deville 2013 Silverado Z71 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barczy01 Posted September 3, 2014 Report Share Posted September 3, 2014 show up with cash in hand 3800 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
99EldoETC Posted September 4, 2014 Report Share Posted September 4, 2014 show up with cash in hand 3800 I was thinking $35-3800. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KHE Posted September 4, 2014 Report Share Posted September 4, 2014 If you want to come up with a value of what the car is currently worth, use the NADA average retail or the Kelly Blue Book value and deduct the cost of the repairs in order to obtain the true value of the car. You would need to offer below that figure or you will pay more assuming the owner counter offers. A good paint job will easily be $2000+. Kevin '93 Fleetwood Brougham '05 Deville '04 Deville 2013 Silverado Z71 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cadillacjeff7777 Posted September 4, 2014 Report Share Posted September 4, 2014 I would also bring up the head gasket issue in negotiations...But word your rebuttal well. If it were me, I'd ask if he's ever had the engine time-serted or studded. He'll likely look confused and just explain that these years the N* engine was designed with a head bolt thread flaw and that it will cost X amount to perform this maintenance. If I were to buy it, one of the first things that I'd do would be to pull the heads and take care of it before a bead bolt pulled and blew the gasket while out on the road somewhere. -Just my thoughts. 2008 DTS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KHE Posted September 4, 2014 Report Share Posted September 4, 2014 I would also bring up the head gasket issue in negotiations...But word your rebuttal well. If it were me, I'd ask if he's ever had the engine time-serted or studded. He'll likely look confused and just explain that these years the N* engine was designed with a head bolt thread flaw and that it will cost X amount to perform this maintenance. If I were to buy it, one of the first things that I'd do would be to pull the heads and take care of it before a bead bolt pulled and blew the gasket while out on the road somewhere. -Just my thoughts. I would just test the coolant for combustion gasses. No owner would compensate to fix something that isn't broken. I'd just run it until it had an issue - they give plenty of warning. Kevin '93 Fleetwood Brougham '05 Deville '04 Deville 2013 Silverado Z71 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rockfangd Posted September 4, 2014 Report Share Posted September 4, 2014 THis is just my opinion but I stick with my higher mileage cars. I have had great luck with all of my vehicles. I stay away from very low mileage. Reasons being The lower the mileage the more it sat Where did it sit is also a good question Was it maintained during ownership. Why did it sit? My Deville had over 200k when I sold it My truck has 180k My eldo has 138k My Seville had the lowest miles and funny thing is I have put the most money into it. Glad I got it for a reasonable price. Good luck to you GM FAN FOREVER Nice, clean, luxury= fine automobile Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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