MetalGod Posted October 8, 2012 Report Share Posted October 8, 2012 As of a few days ago, whenever I drive my car the service stability sys message, the traction control light, and the abs light will come on at the same time. Brought it into the garage I normally go to. I wound up needing to have a tie rod replaced, but they didn't have any luck discovering what is causing the lights to come on regularly. One of the codes they found was a history code (can't remember what it was), but that was about it. Nothing seemed to be operating outside of the norm when they drove it. Now, all of the above will come on randomly while I'm driving. Sometimes, it'll be about 1-2 seconds after I shift into drive the first time from park. Yesterday, I went out in the morning and it took 10 minutes before they came on. Others, it'll be when I brake for the first time and get down under 5 mph. They're all coming on, but there doesn't seem to be a consistency for when it happens. I know I'm being a little vague with my description here, but I really don't have much to go with. Any help regarding this would be appreciated and I will add more info if I come up with anything. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KHE Posted October 8, 2012 Report Share Posted October 8, 2012 Simultaneously press and hold the OFF and INFO UP buttons. ALL? will be displayed. Press info reset for NO and ON/Off for YES. Press ON/OFF when you see ALL? and again when you see DISPLAY ALL CODES? Once the codes are displayed, write them down and post them here. Kevin '93 Fleetwood Brougham '05 Deville '04 Deville 2013 Silverado Z71 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MetalGod Posted October 8, 2012 Author Report Share Posted October 8, 2012 6 history codes: ABS C1232 DDM B2507 IPC U1065 IRC U1064 IRC U1016 PDM B2507 And 2 current IPC U1000 IPM B0429 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texas Jim Posted October 8, 2012 Report Share Posted October 8, 2012 C1232 is the Left Front wheel speed sensor. Check the connection going to the sensor... make sure it is clean and has a good connection... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MetalGod Posted October 8, 2012 Author Report Share Posted October 8, 2012 Jim, I believe that was what the guy at the garage told me about. Pretty sure he said everything looked ok and that it was a 50/50 chance the light would stay off if he changed some kind of bearing. I'm not very knowledgeable when it comes to this kind of stuff so unfortunately there are some things I tend to have a hard time remembering. I'll check the connection myself if I manage to find it lol. Again, stuff I've never looked at so I'm basically taking guesses where I'm looking aside from the obvious (in this case near the front left wheel). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texas Jim Posted October 8, 2012 Report Share Posted October 8, 2012 The connection you are looking for is just inboard of the rotor... There will be a wire coming from the car that plugs into a wire that is coming off of the rear of the hub... Here is a pic of the hub and the wire on the hub... . . . . . Here is a picture of what the connection on the hub looks like... . . . . . . Here is a picture of the wire coming from the car... the two wires plug together. . . . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MetalGod Posted October 9, 2012 Author Report Share Posted October 9, 2012 Looked at the connection. Everything seemed clean and secure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MetalGod Posted October 10, 2012 Author Report Share Posted October 10, 2012 Drove to work and back today (52 miles) and the lights (abs, traction control) plus the "stability sys" message did not come on. Stopped at a gas station, filled up, and the lights came on literally 1 second after I shifted from park to drive. Posted all the codes above. Any help/suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MetalGod Posted October 12, 2012 Author Report Share Posted October 12, 2012 Just trying to bump this thread. Connection going to the speed sensor is not loose or dirty. If I clear the c1232 code, the abs light, t/c light, and "stability sys" warning go off and sometimes stay off or come on at random. Most of the time, everything seems to come on after I stop and as I'm beginning to accelerate so basically before I even reach 5 mph. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texas Jim Posted October 13, 2012 Report Share Posted October 13, 2012 Clear all of the codes. Drive it till the lights come on... DO NOT TURN OFF THE IGNITION... Then pull the codes to see what is CURRENT... Then post them here. Hopefully the codes will tell you (and us) what part is causing the lights to come on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MetalGod Posted October 13, 2012 Author Report Share Posted October 13, 2012 IPC U1000 IPM B0429 Those were the current codes that came up after clearing all codes. Same as before. Made it to work and the lights came on as I was parking (once again when I was under 5 mph). When I left, lights came on after moving about a foot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MetalGod Posted October 16, 2012 Author Report Share Posted October 16, 2012 bump. Results are in above post. Current codes same as before and C1232 history code again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimD Posted October 16, 2012 Report Share Posted October 16, 2012 ....Current codes same as before and C1232 history code again. C1232 - Left Front Wheel Speed Circuit Open or Shorted Whatever is happening at your LF wheel speed sensor is an intermittent condition. After you confirm the LF wheel speed sensor connection is clean/tight and there is no wire harness damage, it might be time to throw some money at replacing the LF hub/sensor assembly. Jim Drive your car. Use your cell phone. CHOOSE ONE ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stokes Posted October 17, 2012 Report Share Posted October 17, 2012 I had the exact same thing going on in my '01 Deville,dont recall the exact codes,but they pointed to the LF wheel.Cleaning that connection with electrical contact cleaner spray fixed it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MetalGod Posted January 9, 2013 Author Report Share Posted January 9, 2013 ....Current codes same as before and C1232 history code again. C1232 - Left Front Wheel Speed Circuit Open or Shorted Whatever is happening at your LF wheel speed sensor is an intermittent condition. After you confirm the LF wheel speed sensor connection is clean/tight and there is no wire harness damage, it might be time to throw some money at replacing the LF hub/sensor assembly. Connection is clean and tight. Still comes on intermittently. I forgot about this for a while now as there have been a larger number of times when it doesn't come on. Roughly how much would/should it cost to replace the assembly? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimD Posted January 9, 2013 Report Share Posted January 9, 2013 ....Current codes same as before and C1232 history code again. C1232 - Left Front Wheel Speed Circuit Open or Shorted Whatever is happening at your LF wheel speed sensor is an intermittent condition. After you confirm the LF wheel speed sensor connection is clean/tight and there is no wire harness damage, it might be time to throw some money at replacing the LF hub/sensor assembly. Connection is clean and tight. Still comes on intermittently. I forgot about this for a while now as there have been a larger number of times when it doesn't come on. Roughly how much would/should it cost to replace the assembly? I would say that 'not enough to worry about' for three or four months qualifies as "intermittent". A DIY person could replace the assembly for the $200(??) or less parts cost. Putting your car in the hands of a repair shop is an open-ended proposition over which you will be asked to sign away control. Labor rates seem to vary according to region and 'perceived ability to pay'. Jim Drive your car. Use your cell phone. CHOOSE ONE ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texas Jim Posted January 9, 2013 Report Share Posted January 9, 2013 Looks like it is 105.77 on Amazon... . . http://www.amazon.co...Type=automotive . . . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mickey9452 Posted July 10, 2013 Report Share Posted July 10, 2013 Thanks for the info, I also have this issue on my 02 SLS the code I get are ABS 1248 and 1214 can anyone help with this one ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimD Posted July 10, 2013 Report Share Posted July 10, 2013 Thanks for the info, I also have this issue on my 02 SLS the code I get are ABS 1248 and 1214 can anyone help with this one ? I might be able to help but before I burn the typing time, will you be doing the work? Or will you hire a third party to do the work? Jim Drive your car. Use your cell phone. CHOOSE ONE ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mickey9452 Posted July 10, 2013 Report Share Posted July 10, 2013 I have a mechanic friend who will do the job...thanks ,I need to relay him the info he will do most of the work Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimD Posted July 10, 2013 Report Share Posted July 10, 2013 I have a mechanic friend who will do the job...thanks ,I need to relay him the info he will do most of the work I'm sure you can see the openings for information being garbled; he said, then he said, back and forth for days. Your two codes, C1214 and C1248, are related in such a way that C1214 causes C1248. C1214 can be caused by a dirty/corroded/damaged wire harness connector at the Electronic Brake Control Module (ECBM). The EBCM is located at the bottom front LH corner of the powertrain cradle. Access is gained by removing the large air flow management panel under the front end of the vehicle OR by removing the LF wheel and close out panel. One electrical connection seems to be the most likely to cause C1214 and that is a black chassis ground wire that exits the side of the pump motor and is connected to chassis. The chassis end of the connection can become rusted/corroded/broken and must be cleaned up/repaired. Jim Drive your car. Use your cell phone. CHOOSE ONE ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mickey9452 Posted July 11, 2013 Report Share Posted July 11, 2013 Thank you, I will do this PRONTO, let you know the outcome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mickey9452 Posted July 15, 2013 Report Share Posted July 15, 2013 Completed the check , connections are clean ,checked the grounds all are clean this engine has 43,000 miles ,any other advise. The message is still constant, car rides perfect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cadillac Jim Posted July 16, 2013 Report Share Posted July 16, 2013 If you aren't sure where the problem is coming from, replacing parts may not fix the problem. This is particularly true of intermittent problems. Follow the wiring harness from the LF wheel speed sensor as far as you can, checking for damage to the wire or a point where it is too flexible and may have a broken conductor inside. To answer your question, the sensor is part of the hub, which is about $91 for a Timken part, cheaper for "economy" part, higher for some brands, astronomical for AC/Delco part. Check with Texas Jim about replacing this as a DIY job. -- Click Here for CaddyInfo page on "How To" Read Your OBD Codes-- Click Here for my personal page to download my OBD code list as an Excel file, plus other Cadillac data -- See my CaddyInfo car blogs: 2011 CTS-V, 1997 ETC Yes, I was Jims_97_ETC before I changed cars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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