ted tcb Posted November 24, 2004 Report Share Posted November 24, 2004 My local oil change guy is quoting me $70 plus a $50 kit for the tranny filter and oil change on the 97 seville Does this seem about right? My appointment is for tomorrow morning. Thanks 1989 FWD Fleetwood, Silver 1995 STS Crimson Pearl on Black leather 1997 STS Diamond White 1999 STS Crimson Pearl 2001 STS Silver 2003 STS, Crimson Pearl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adallak Posted November 24, 2004 Report Share Posted November 24, 2004 Cannot tell about the numbers since I did it myself. DO NOT LET HIM FLUSH THE TRANNY! The saddest thing in life is wasted talent Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ranger Posted November 24, 2004 Report Share Posted November 24, 2004 I thought the 4T80E had no servicable filter. Only a screen that needs to be cleaned. There is a filter but it is up inside the side case and does not require changing unless the trans is disassembled. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJSUS Posted November 24, 2004 Report Share Posted November 24, 2004 After info i read in the archives etc. I wouldn't let then flush either.. Russ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dadillac Posted November 24, 2004 Report Share Posted November 24, 2004 Just curious as to what the problem with doing a tranny flush is. It appears to be a good idea. Flushing the tranny removes all of the old fluid, instead of about 1/2 - 2/3. What is happening, in a bad way, to trannies that get flushed? Don "Modern warriors saddle iron horses of chrome." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KHE Posted November 24, 2004 Report Share Posted November 24, 2004 Just curious as to what the problem with doing a tranny flush is. It appears to be a good idea. Flushing the tranny removes all of the old fluid, instead of about 1/2 - 2/3. What is happening, in a bad way, to trannies that get flushed? Don http://caddyinfo.ipbhost.com/index.php?sho...ic=799&hl=flush This explains in detail why not to have the transmission flushed. Kevin '93 Fleetwood Brougham '05 Deville '04 Deville 2013 Silverado Z71 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norton1 Posted November 24, 2004 Report Share Posted November 24, 2004 The 4T80E does have a bottom filter that needs changed with the fluid change. There is another filter up on the side but there are two screens that eliminate the need for this filter to be changed unless the tranny is being pulled. When the fluid is changed the bottom will get about 5-7 quarts of fluid. Then there is a drain plug in that cavity that will get the majority of the rest. You'll get about 95% of the fluid with these two removals. The 4T80E is a dry sump tranny. In other words there is no "pan full" of fluid setting in the tranny. The fluid is pumped to the upper part by means of a scavenger pump so the majority of the fluid sets in the body where it is needed. Funny - I was just readin this stuff in my service manual last night. I can't tell you what the cost is to change the fluid and filter as I have not got the mileage on mine yet to have it done. And flushing is not recomended in the service manual. The only flushing that is recomended is the tranny fluid cooler and then only if it is causing the tranny to heat up to unacceptable levels. Hope this helps - Steve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ted tcb Posted November 24, 2004 Author Report Share Posted November 24, 2004 Well, I just came back from having the fluid changed in my tranny and crankcase. Thanks for the advise, as it gave me peace of mind that my tech new his stuff. The tranny kit for the car came with two filters, one for each side. The owner of the shop pumped out about 2 or 3L from the dipstick, to make the draining from the pan removal less messy. The pan removal gave up most of the oil, and the screen was cleaned, as well as the pan. No debris or metal, the fluid was deep red, smelled fine. The plug was hidden behind a wiring harness, and that gave up most of the remaining oil He then ran the car for about 5minutes, checked for leaks, drove the car, and checked all the levels. I watched the entire process, which took about 1 hour .... I was glad it was the owner doing the work, as he knew his stuff and was meticulous. The charge was $69.99 for tranny service, and 54.99 for tranny kit , CDN$. Now, how do i remove EXP 47 code, or just let it expire through time? Thanks, this board is real helpful, especially with preventative maintenance. 1989 FWD Fleetwood, Silver 1995 STS Crimson Pearl on Black leather 1997 STS Diamond White 1999 STS Crimson Pearl 2001 STS Silver 2003 STS, Crimson Pearl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norton1 Posted November 24, 2004 Report Share Posted November 24, 2004 Kewl beans! Now I can figure about what it should cost when I need it doen. Steve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RalPh Posted November 24, 2004 Report Share Posted November 24, 2004 ted tcb - your fluid was still redish and there was no metal or debris in the pan so I assume you wasted your money on the "filters" - right? They really are not filters but rather "screens" the pump pulls fluid through and unless there's a problem with your trans they really don't need replacement. For anyone else contemplating a trans service you'd be better off dropping the pan first before you buy those screens. Spend the money on an OEM pan gasket you'll be glad you did. As for a fluid change, a "flush machine" should be avoided but it's really easy to exchange the fluid yourself by connecting up to the cooler line and adding fluid, as the pump pushes it out through that line, for a clean transfer. - Kinda fun too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rollingthunder1994 Posted November 24, 2004 Report Share Posted November 24, 2004 Hey Guys, Those tranny screens are kind of expensive. I have a 94 STS, when i changed my shift solenoids, i went to the local car parts store. The two plastic screens and gasket cost $45.00. WOW $45 for a piece of plastic with a curve in it!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ted tcb Posted November 25, 2004 Author Report Share Posted November 25, 2004 Did the tranny service cause the code came up on my DIC ... new car to me, so better safe than sorry. 1989 FWD Fleetwood, Silver 1995 STS Crimson Pearl on Black leather 1997 STS Diamond White 1999 STS Crimson Pearl 2001 STS Silver 2003 STS, Crimson Pearl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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