bulletflinger Posted November 2, 2006 Report Share Posted November 2, 2006 I lost my driver 1 key fob. I purchased a new one and wanted to program this fob myself using the manual. I was able to program it to the 3rd user, although I would prefer to have the new key fob set to driver #1. Is there a way to reprogram this key fob to work as driver#1 and also make it so the lost key fob will no longer work ? Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thu Posted November 3, 2006 Report Share Posted November 3, 2006 I thought there was a 2nd method to reprogram *all* keyfobs, as opposed to adding another fob. This, in essence, disables all other keyfobs. 2003 Seville STS 43k miles with the Bose Sound, Navigation System, HID Headlamps, and MagneRide 1993 DeVille. Looks great inside and out! 298k miles! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canadian95sts Posted November 3, 2006 Report Share Posted November 3, 2006 this info is for a 2005 STS, but it should be the same for an 06 STS, i think you need to follow method #2 Matt There are 4 methods for programming key fobs. Up to 4 key fobs may be programmed to the remote control door lock receiver (RCDLR). Each programmed key fob is given a position of #1-#4 in the RCDLR memory. Method 1 - Key Fob Quick Learn This procedure will add key fobs. Fobs will be numbered in sequence based on when they are programmed; if 2 fobs are currently programmed to the RCDLR, a fob programmed using this method will be numbered as Fob 3. This procedure requires that you have a known good key fob, a replacement key fob, and the vehicles mechanical key. Important: This procedure is not available when the maximum number of fobs (4) have been programmed. If 4 key fobs are programmed to this RCDLR and this method is attempted, the driver information center (DIC) will display MAX FOBS LEARNED and the programming procedure will exit. Method 4 must be used in this instance. The vehicle must be OFF. Place a known key fob within the interior of the vehicle. Insert the vehicle key in the driver door lock cylinder located in the driver door handle and cycle the key 5 times within 5 seconds. The DIC will display a message: READY FOR FOB X (X = fob 2, 3, or 4). Place the replacement key fob in the console fob pocket with the buttons facing forward. A beep will occur and the DIC will display: READY FOR FOB X (X = fob 3 or 4) or MAX FOBS LEARNED. If programming additional key fobs, repeat steps 5 and 6, or press the OFF/ACC portion of the ignition switch to exit programming mode. Operate the active portion of each key fob in order to finalize the programming sequence and verify correct system operation. Method 2 - Key Fob Slot Programming This procedure will add or replace a key fob. Method 2 allows you to choose which location (slot) the unprogrammed fob will be learned to. If you are replacing a key fob, this method will erase the previously known key fob programmed to that particular slot. This procedure requires that you have a known good key fob, a replacement key fob, the vehicle mechanical key, and a scan tool. Important: This procedure is not available when the maximum number of fobs (4) have been programmed. If 4 key fobs are programmed to this RCDLR and this method is attempted, the DIC will display MAX FOBS LEARNED and the programming procedure will exit. Method 4 must be used in this instance. The vehicle must be OFF. Place a known key fob within the interior of the vehicle. Install a scan tool. Use the scan tool, to access the following: • Vehicle Control Systems • Computer/Integrating Systems • Module Replacement/Setup • RCDLR • Program Key Fobs Insert the vehicle key in the driver door lock cylinder located in the driver door handle and cycle the key 5 times within 5 seconds. Select Fob X (X = 1, 2, 3, or 4) on the scan tool. This will be the slot you wish to program to. Place the replacement key fob in the console pocket with the buttons facing forward. A beep will occur indicating programming completion. The previously known fob is now erased. If programming additional key fobs, repeat steps 4-8, or press the OFF/ACC portion of the ignition switch to exit programming. Remove the scan tool. Operate the active portion of each key fob in order to finalize the programming sequence and verify correct system operation. Method 3 - Key Fob Auto Learn This procedure will first erase all known key fobs. The procedure will then program a single or multiple key fobs. Method 3 is a series of three 10-minute key cycles, for a total of 30 minutes. This procedure requires that you have a replacement key fob and the vehicle mechanical key. Important: All previously programmed key fobs will be erased upon completion of the 30-minute programming procedure. The order in which the key fobs are programmed will determine its numbering position within the RCDLR memory. The first key fob programmed will be key fob #1, and the second key fob programmed will be key fob #2. The number stamped on the key fob case is for reference only: #2 can be programmed as #1. Do not place any known good key fobs in the vicinity of the vehicle when programming with Method 3. If the RCDLR recognizes a known good key fob during Method 3 programming, the programming mode will resort to Method 1. The vehicle must be OFF. Place the replacement key fob in the console pocket with the buttons facing forward. Insert the vehicle key in the driver door lock cylinder located in the driver door handle and cycle the key 5 times within 5 seconds. The DIC will display a message: OFF/ACC TO LEARN. Press the OFF/ACC portion of the ignition button. The DIC will display a message: WAIT 10 MINUTES, then it will count down from 10 to 0, one minute at a time. When the counter reaches 0, DIC will display OFF/ACC TO LEARN. Repeat steps 5-7 two more times, for a total of 30 minutes. The DIC will display a message: OFF/ACC TO LEARN. Press the OFF/ACC portion of the ignition button. A beep will occur and the DIC will display: READY FOR FOB 1. At this time all previously known key fobs have been erased. When fob 1 is programmed a beep will be heard and the DIC will display a message: READY FOR FOB 2. Additional key fobs can be programmed by taking fob 1 out of the pocket and inserting fob 2. If desired, up to 4 fobs can be programmed. Once 4 fobs have been learned, the DIC will display a message: MAX FOBS LEARNED, and automatically exit the program mode. If learning less than 4 key fobs, press the OFF/ACC portion of the ignition button to exit the program mode. Operate the active portion of each key fob in order to finalize the programming sequence and verify correct system operation. Method 4 - Service Programming System Fob Programming This procedure is a 10-minute relearn procedure using the Techline Terminal with SPS software. Once the 10-minute timer has expired, the fobs can be programmed similar to Method 2 using slot programming. A scan tool, Techline Terminal, and a replacement key fob are required to perform this procedure. Place the vehicle in the Vehicle On, Engine Off mode. Connect a scan tool to the vehicle. Insure that all power consuming devices are turned OFF on the vehicle. With a scan tool, select Request Info under Service Programming System and follow the scan tool on-screen instructions. Disconnect the scan tool from the vehicle and connect the scan tool to a Techline Terminal with the current Service Programming System (SPS) software. Turn the vehicle OFF. On the Techline Terminal, select Service Programming System and follow the Techline Terminal on-screen instructions. Ensure the correct programming procedure is selected based on component being replaced or programmed. See Important above. Disconnect the scan tool from the Techline Terminal and re-connect the scan tool to the vehicle. With a scan tool, select Program ECU under Service Programming System. At this point the scan tool must remain connected for the duration of the 10 minute relearn procedure. When the 10 minute relearn procedure has completed, use the scan tool to access the following: • Vehicle Control Systems • Computer/Integrating Systems • Module Replacement/Setup • RCDLR • Program Key Fobs Select Fob X (X = 1, 2, 3, or 4) on the scan tool. This will be the slot you wish to program to. Place the replacement key fob in the console pocket with the buttons facing forward. A beep will occur indicating programming completion. The previously known fob is now erased. If programming additional key fobs, repeat steps 12-13, or press the OFF/ACC portion of the ignition switch to exit programming. Remove the scan tool. Operate the active portion of each key fob in order to finalize the programming sequence and verify correct system operation. A good friend will come and bail you out of jail...BUT, a true friend will be sitting next to you saying, "darn...that was fun!" www.madd.ca Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gohawks Posted November 3, 2006 Report Share Posted November 3, 2006 I assume that reprogramming a 1997 key fob would be different. The caddy I recently bought just came with the #1 key fob and was thinking of adding another. Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cadillac Jim Posted November 3, 2006 Report Share Posted November 3, 2006 The 1997 does indeed use a different procedure. Only two fobs can be programmed. Both must be present when programming is done. The process is on pages 9K-4 and 9K-5. I'll transcripbe it if you need it. -- Click Here for CaddyInfo page on "How To" Read Your OBD Codes-- Click Here for my personal page to download my OBD code list as an Excel file, plus other Cadillac data -- See my CaddyInfo car blogs: 2011 CTS-V, 1997 ETC Yes, I was Jims_97_ETC before I changed cars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bulletflinger Posted November 5, 2006 Author Report Share Posted November 5, 2006 this info is for a 2005 STS, but it should be the same for an 06 STS, i think you need to follow method #2 Matt There are 4 methods for programming key fobs. Up to 4 key fobs may be programmed to the remote control door lock receiver (RCDLR). Each programmed key fob is given a position of #1-#4 in the RCDLR memory. Method 1 - Key Fob Quick Learn This procedure will add key fobs. Fobs will be numbered in sequence based on when they are programmed; if 2 fobs are currently programmed to the RCDLR, a fob programmed using this method will be numbered as Fob 3. This procedure requires that you have a known good key fob, a replacement key fob, and the vehicles mechanical key. Important: This procedure is not available when the maximum number of fobs (4) have been programmed. If 4 key fobs are programmed to this RCDLR and this method is attempted, the driver information center (DIC) will display MAX FOBS LEARNED and the programming procedure will exit. Method 4 must be used in this instance. The vehicle must be OFF. Place a known key fob within the interior of the vehicle. Insert the vehicle key in the driver door lock cylinder located in the driver door handle and cycle the key 5 times within 5 seconds. The DIC will display a message: READY FOR FOB X (X = fob 2, 3, or 4). Place the replacement key fob in the console fob pocket with the buttons facing forward. A beep will occur and the DIC will display: READY FOR FOB X (X = fob 3 or 4) or MAX FOBS LEARNED. If programming additional key fobs, repeat steps 5 and 6, or press the OFF/ACC portion of the ignition switch to exit programming mode. Operate the active portion of each key fob in order to finalize the programming sequence and verify correct system operation. Method 2 - Key Fob Slot Programming This procedure will add or replace a key fob. Method 2 allows you to choose which location (slot) the unprogrammed fob will be learned to. If you are replacing a key fob, this method will erase the previously known key fob programmed to that particular slot. This procedure requires that you have a known good key fob, a replacement key fob, the vehicle mechanical key, and a scan tool. Important: This procedure is not available when the maximum number of fobs (4) have been programmed. If 4 key fobs are programmed to this RCDLR and this method is attempted, the DIC will display MAX FOBS LEARNED and the programming procedure will exit. Method 4 must be used in this instance. The vehicle must be OFF. Place a known key fob within the interior of the vehicle. Install a scan tool. Use the scan tool, to access the following: • Vehicle Control Systems • Computer/Integrating Systems • Module Replacement/Setup • RCDLR • Program Key Fobs Insert the vehicle key in the driver door lock cylinder located in the driver door handle and cycle the key 5 times within 5 seconds. Select Fob X (X = 1, 2, 3, or 4) on the scan tool. This will be the slot you wish to program to. Place the replacement key fob in the console pocket with the buttons facing forward. A beep will occur indicating programming completion. The previously known fob is now erased. If programming additional key fobs, repeat steps 4-8, or press the OFF/ACC portion of the ignition switch to exit programming. Remove the scan tool. Operate the active portion of each key fob in order to finalize the programming sequence and verify correct system operation. Method 3 - Key Fob Auto Learn This procedure will first erase all known key fobs. The procedure will then program a single or multiple key fobs. Method 3 is a series of three 10-minute key cycles, for a total of 30 minutes. This procedure requires that you have a replacement key fob and the vehicle mechanical key. Important: All previously programmed key fobs will be erased upon completion of the 30-minute programming procedure. The order in which the key fobs are programmed will determine its numbering position within the RCDLR memory. The first key fob programmed will be key fob #1, and the second key fob programmed will be key fob #2. The number stamped on the key fob case is for reference only: #2 can be programmed as #1. Do not place any known good key fobs in the vicinity of the vehicle when programming with Method 3. If the RCDLR recognizes a known good key fob during Method 3 programming, the programming mode will resort to Method 1. The vehicle must be OFF. Place the replacement key fob in the console pocket with the buttons facing forward. Insert the vehicle key in the driver door lock cylinder located in the driver door handle and cycle the key 5 times within 5 seconds. The DIC will display a message: OFF/ACC TO LEARN. Press the OFF/ACC portion of the ignition button. The DIC will display a message: WAIT 10 MINUTES, then it will count down from 10 to 0, one minute at a time. When the counter reaches 0, DIC will display OFF/ACC TO LEARN. Repeat steps 5-7 two more times, for a total of 30 minutes. The DIC will display a message: OFF/ACC TO LEARN. Press the OFF/ACC portion of the ignition button. A beep will occur and the DIC will display: READY FOR FOB 1. At this time all previously known key fobs have been erased. When fob 1 is programmed a beep will be heard and the DIC will display a message: READY FOR FOB 2. Additional key fobs can be programmed by taking fob 1 out of the pocket and inserting fob 2. If desired, up to 4 fobs can be programmed. Once 4 fobs have been learned, the DIC will display a message: MAX FOBS LEARNED, and automatically exit the program mode. If learning less than 4 key fobs, press the OFF/ACC portion of the ignition button to exit the program mode. Operate the active portion of each key fob in order to finalize the programming sequence and verify correct system operation. Method 4 - Service Programming System Fob Programming This procedure is a 10-minute relearn procedure using the Techline Terminal with SPS software. Once the 10-minute timer has expired, the fobs can be programmed similar to Method 2 using slot programming. A scan tool, Techline Terminal, and a replacement key fob are required to perform this procedure. Place the vehicle in the Vehicle On, Engine Off mode. Connect a scan tool to the vehicle. Insure that all power consuming devices are turned OFF on the vehicle. With a scan tool, select Request Info under Service Programming System and follow the scan tool on-screen instructions. Disconnect the scan tool from the vehicle and connect the scan tool to a Techline Terminal with the current Service Programming System (SPS) software. Turn the vehicle OFF. On the Techline Terminal, select Service Programming System and follow the Techline Terminal on-screen instructions. Ensure the correct programming procedure is selected based on component being replaced or programmed. See Important above. Disconnect the scan tool from the Techline Terminal and re-connect the scan tool to the vehicle. With a scan tool, select Program ECU under Service Programming System. At this point the scan tool must remain connected for the duration of the 10 minute relearn procedure. When the 10 minute relearn procedure has completed, use the scan tool to access the following: • Vehicle Control Systems • Computer/Integrating Systems • Module Replacement/Setup • RCDLR • Program Key Fobs Select Fob X (X = 1, 2, 3, or 4) on the scan tool. This will be the slot you wish to program to. Place the replacement key fob in the console pocket with the buttons facing forward. A beep will occur indicating programming completion. The previously known fob is now erased. If programming additional key fobs, repeat steps 12-13, or press the OFF/ACC portion of the ignition switch to exit programming. Remove the scan tool. Operate the active portion of each key fob in order to finalize the programming sequence and verify correct system operation. Thanks for the info !! So I will need a scan tool in order to do this ??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thu Posted November 5, 2006 Report Share Posted November 5, 2006 On my 2003, some key fob programming operations require the scan tool. See if you can get your local dealer to do it for free. 2003 Seville STS 43k miles with the Bose Sound, Navigation System, HID Headlamps, and MagneRide 1993 DeVille. Looks great inside and out! 298k miles! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canadian95sts Posted November 6, 2006 Report Share Posted November 6, 2006 Thanks for the info !! So I will need a scan tool in order to do this ??? If you choose to use method #2, yes, you need a scan tool. BUT, if you use method #3, (which takes about a half hour), you do not need a scan tool, but you will have to reprogram all the key fobs for the vehicle. If you have the time and do not wish to go to the dealer, i would suggest method #3, Matt A good friend will come and bail you out of jail...BUT, a true friend will be sitting next to you saying, "darn...that was fun!" www.madd.ca Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thu Posted November 6, 2006 Report Share Posted November 6, 2006 Ditto. Use method #3 and reprogram them all and save yourself some trouble. 2003 Seville STS 43k miles with the Bose Sound, Navigation System, HID Headlamps, and MagneRide 1993 DeVille. Looks great inside and out! 298k miles! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bulletflinger Posted November 10, 2006 Author Report Share Posted November 10, 2006 Method 3 - Key Fob Auto Learn This procedure requires that you have a replacement key fob and the vehicle mechanical key. I already went ahead and programmed my newly purchased keyfob to location #3. Now unless there is a way to clear the memory of the keyfob I will not be able to use method #3 unless I purchase another keyfob or bring it to the dealer. Is there a way to clear the key fob ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigjayzway Posted November 10, 2006 Report Share Posted November 10, 2006 I think you are going to need someone with a scan tool to help you out here, and use method #2 above. I cannot see any other way of removing and already programmed fob. That said, the only other option i can find, is getting your hands on yet another key fob, (borrowing from a friend?!?), and using method #3 to erase all known fobs, then, using your own fobs with method #3 again , to erase the borrowed fob, and programing all of you own fobs again. Life is too short to grow up! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wd8iou Posted November 13, 2006 Report Share Posted November 13, 2006 I have a similar question. I purchased an additional key fob with the intention of having a second “Driver 1” key fob. I programmed the new key fob using Method 1 and it mostly works but it does not register as “Driver 1” so none of the programmed settings for “Driver 1” are active. Also, the new key fob will not remotely start the car. Is it possible to have two key fobs set as “Driver 1” (or Driver 2 for that matter) or are 3rd and 4th key fobs always driver neutral? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jarnal3 Posted December 2, 2008 Report Share Posted December 2, 2008 Must say i am loving the site. I am trying to figure out how to program a FOB for a 04 CTS? I read through, but i am unsure of the "console pocket" part. Im assumeing this is a STS only step? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SPreston2001 Posted December 3, 2008 Report Share Posted December 3, 2008 Ok im confused. My 2000 didnt come with a remote key fob so I brought one off Ebay. Now I was always told I would have to use a scanner tool to program it to my car. Are you guys telling me I can do a procedure myself to learn the key fob? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimD Posted December 3, 2008 Report Share Posted December 3, 2008 Just a nit-picking little side bar here. The key FOB is not the item being "programmed". The programming exercise provides an opportunity for the Remote Keyless Entry (RKE) module in the vehicle to recognize the data stream being transmitted by the key FOB. Jim Drive your car. Use your cell phone. CHOOSE ONE ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SPreston2001 Posted December 5, 2008 Report Share Posted December 5, 2008 So can anybody tell me if I my 2000 STS can relearn/recognize my replacement key fob without a scanner tool? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lowriderdeville Posted May 13, 2010 Report Share Posted May 13, 2010 Ok... I have a question... When I bought my 94 Deville I never got a factory key fob. I am a repo man and I found a random Cadillac Key fob laying in a 08' Escalade that I repoed... Can I have that key fob programmed to my 94'? If so can anybody tell me how?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gosheking Posted September 17, 2011 Report Share Posted September 17, 2011 Dear Nobel Sir, so I used method three ( 3 ) and I was able to follow the instructions until the screen reported Ready for FOB 1 and then beeped as explained in the method. Then the display proceeded with the following Ready for FOB 2 and soon as I placed the second FOB in the pocket it beeped and the display proceeded with the following Ready for FOB 3 At this point since I was only programming two FOB's, I pushed OFF/ACC button again to quit. (May be I wasn't suppose to do that?) After that there were no more messages So I got out of the car and tried the fob's and they did not work. What did I miss here or where did I go wrong? Quiet frankly I think I don't understand or know what the last step of method 3 means in the directions "Operate the active portion of each key fob in order to finalize the programming sequence and verify correct system operation" What is the active portion of each key fob and how do i go be verifying correct system operation? Please help because after 3 attempts I was still unable to finish the task Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texas Jim Posted September 18, 2011 Report Share Posted September 18, 2011 The active portion would be the "LOCK/UNLOCK" button and the TRUNK button. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gosheking Posted September 19, 2011 Report Share Posted September 19, 2011 That’s very strange. I did replace the batteries in both remotes and it goes through the program on display center without displaying any un known messages but when I push on unlock button (or any other button for that matter) it still doesn’t do anything. I have no idea what's causing this. Should I replace the batteries once more in case the new batteries are dead because I tried to program the FOB's four times already? The active portion would be the "LOCK/UNLOCK" button and the TRUNK button. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkE Posted November 24, 2011 Report Share Posted November 24, 2011 I have read that if I get a new fob for my '98 Eldorado that it to be programmed in by a lock smith or the dealer. Is that true or will one of the procedures in this string work? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
detphil Posted November 29, 2011 Report Share Posted November 29, 2011 I have read that if I get a new fob for my '98 Eldorado that it to be programmed in by a lock smith or the dealer. Is that true or will one of the procedures in this string work? hello mark im trying to pro gram my key fobs if u have found out how please share the info Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KHE Posted November 30, 2011 Report Share Posted November 30, 2011 I have read that if I get a new fob for my '98 Eldorado that it to be programmed in by a lock smith or the dealer. Is that true or will one of the procedures in this string work? The '98 Eldorado key fob learning procedure should be the same as the '96-'97 Seville. It can be done from the dash/climate panel. Kevin '93 Fleetwood Brougham '05 Deville '04 Deville 2013 Silverado Z71 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Txbugman Posted October 11, 2012 Report Share Posted October 11, 2012 Just bought a 2001 DeVille....can I add a fob to this car myself or does a dealer have to do it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Txbugman Posted October 23, 2012 Report Share Posted October 23, 2012 Just bought a 2001 DeVille....can I add a fob to this car myself or does a dealer have to do it? .....Hello? anybody on here now days? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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