Ranger Posted October 29, 2008 Report Share Posted October 29, 2008 My daughter calls me at work to tell me her wipers came on when she started the car ('02 SLS) and won't shut off. Ever try explaining to a woman how to unplug the wiper motor over the phone or even how to locate the wiper motor for that matter? She is in a parking garage at work. Think someone would stop and help seeing a woman under the hood? Got her to locate the motor, but she can't get the plug safety retainer loose. So I send her to the fuse box. Got there OK, but she can't figure out which fuse from the diagram on the cover, so I send her to the owners manual. Either she read it wrong or it's a misprint because the fuse she pulled didn't help. By now a security guy comes to help and he finally is able to figure out the plug on the motor. So, not only were the wipers running, but it pumped the fluid dry. That leads me to think the problem is in the stalk. Another clue is that she said after it was unplugged and she was about to leave, the wash button fell off the end of the stalk and when she popped it back on, it was depressed and did not pop back out. Obviously (this just happened) I have not seen the car yet and won't till this weekend, but I'm thinking it's the stalk. Whether or not I can repair it as opposed to replacing it is yet to be seen. Any of you Seville guys experience anything like this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruce Nunnally Posted October 29, 2008 Report Share Posted October 29, 2008 No, but if the stalk FELL APART that does make it a likely suspect in my mind. Bruce 2023 Cadillac CT4-V Blackwing Follow me on: Twitter Instagram Youtube Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarrenJ Posted October 29, 2008 Report Share Posted October 29, 2008 I can replace the stalk (not the turn switch) in my vehicle in under 5 minutes. I seem to recall reading on this forum that the Seville requires the column to be dropped in order to replace the stalk. I sure hope I'm wrong. Looking at the '02 Service Manual I see that all descriptions of replacing the "Turn Signal and Multifunction Switch Assembly" refer to the column as being "Off Vehicle." It then links to info on removing the column. The instructions for assembly replacement vary according to whether you have manual/auto tilt and/or telescoping. Regards, Warren There is no means of avoiding the final collapse of a boom brought about by credit expansion. The alternative is only whether the crisis should come sooner as the result of a voluntary abandonment of further credit expansion, or later as a final and total catastrophe of the currency system involved. - Ludwig von Mises Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ranger Posted October 29, 2008 Author Report Share Posted October 29, 2008 I checked the FSM this morning and it appears to be a pretty simple job. Doesn't look like the column has to be dropped. This stalk is on a dedicated wiper/washer switch. Not the "multifunction switch". It appears to be attached to the side of the column as opposed to down inside of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarrenJ Posted October 30, 2008 Report Share Posted October 30, 2008 I checked the FSM this morning and it appears to be a pretty simple job. Doesn't look like the column has to be dropped. This stalk is on a dedicated wiper/washer switch. Not the "multifunction switch". It appears to be attached to the side of the column as opposed to down inside of it. Excellent! I was afeared for you. Glad to hear it looks so much simpler. Regrets for my misunderstanding. Regards, Warren There is no means of avoiding the final collapse of a boom brought about by credit expansion. The alternative is only whether the crisis should come sooner as the result of a voluntary abandonment of further credit expansion, or later as a final and total catastrophe of the currency system involved. - Ludwig von Mises Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ranger Posted November 6, 2008 Author Report Share Posted November 6, 2008 I checked the FSM this morning and it appears to be a pretty simple job. Doesn't look like the column has to be dropped. This stalk is on a dedicated wiper/washer switch. Not the "multifunction switch". It appears to be attached to the side of the column as opposed to down inside of it. Excellent! I was afeared for you. Glad to hear it looks so much simpler. Regrets for my misunderstanding. Regards, Warren Well Warren, as it turned out your fears where well founded. FSM always makes it look easier than it really is. I did in fact need to drop the column because there was no way to get at the connector that ran down the column and disappeared somewhere. I was bound and determined not to go through that. Good old Yankee ingenuity and stubbornness took over. I ended up disassembling the switches, unplugging the stalks from both switches and swapped the new stalk in the old switch and reassembled it. Worked like a charm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texas Jim Posted November 6, 2008 Report Share Posted November 6, 2008 Good job. I will remember THAT... in case I ever need it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarrenJ Posted November 6, 2008 Report Share Posted November 6, 2008 Sometimes stubbornness is rewarded. Congrats! Any pix? Regards, Warren There is no means of avoiding the final collapse of a boom brought about by credit expansion. The alternative is only whether the crisis should come sooner as the result of a voluntary abandonment of further credit expansion, or later as a final and total catastrophe of the currency system involved. - Ludwig von Mises Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ranger Posted November 6, 2008 Author Report Share Posted November 6, 2008 Pics? Nah, my daughter probably could have taken some for me, but it was the last thing on my aggravated mind at the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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