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I don't know who is more stupid, me or the jackoff GM engineer who designed the jacking procedure on the '92 Seville. Never changed a tire before on the car. Never even looked at the jack and spare in the trunk. Well, I picked up a nail in the right front tire on way home yesterday so I called for roadside assistance. They estimated 2 hours to arrive. Decided to change the darn thing myself. Got the jack out of the trunk, looked under the car, and saw the slot/hole in the frame where I thought the jack was supposed to be placed. Wrong? The jack jammed itself into the hole and I coundn't get the jack off the frame once I changed the tire. Drove the car with the hanging jack to the garage where they proceeded to break it in the process of removing it. Real stupid design! Or is it me?

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Yes, the jack looked like it had never be used. I saw the groove afterwards. I was in my business clothes and doing a four point push-up position to see where the jack was supposed to go. It just looked like the square opening on the bottom of the frame was the place to put the jack. $69 at dealer to replace it. Anybody know what other years and models have compatible jacks? Maybe I can find one at a salvage yard.

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Do what I did and just go to your local parts store and pick up a 2 - 2 1/4 ton floor jack and keep it in your trunk with the spare. Cheap and simple.

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Sumdumgai,

You're setting yourself up with that thread title...... :lol:

Kevin
'93 Fleetwood Brougham
'05 Deville
'04 Deville
2013 Silverado Z71

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Dumbass GM engineer that put that wheel well lip there to jack on.....LOL LOL LOL

That's histerical!!

My worst jacking experience was with my wife's Explorer in the dark three weeks after we got it off of a lease. Trying to figure out how to drop the spare (thinking at first that it had a bolt holding the spare up), finally finding the 4 foot rod/wrench UNDER THE HOOD you needed to stick in the hold above the license plate to engage the mechanism to drop the spare down and find out that it is held in place by a single 1/4 to 3/16" cable. (I am still amazed that that cable doesnt brake over time and Explorer's start dropping spares on the highway causing accidents. Takes a lot of guts to design that system....) Anyway, finally get the spare and its older than hell and nearly bald and the wheel does not fit over the hub! This was a car that FORD ceritfied (sort of like the GM Certified program) that the car was perfect and gone over with a finetooth comb, with 22,000 miles on it. Got flatbedded home that night..... Ford has a better idea! That is find out how to do it as cheaply and with as few plastic parts as possible strange engineering if you ask me. Bbobynski once said, that if he was going to build a car himself, he would build it like GM does, I can not agree more! Mike

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:D I got you all beat! Was at a friends and his son called he had a flat and him and his buddys couldnt get the tire off(we thought FROZE lug nuts) well we get there and these idiots are try to take the tire off the spare tire RIM and put it on the rim with the flat, my buddy just a bout died and so did I! :huh:

take it easy Joe

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Howyadoin,

I did precisely the same thing on my '93 STS... Looks like the jack should fit right in there, doesn't it? What a nightmare... Fortunately I found a guy who had a floor jack in the trunk of his Corolla, of all things. Went out the next day and bought a compressor, floor jack and 4-way lug wrench and threw them in the trunk.

The compressor has saved my *smurf* a couple of times, especially when the doofuses at NTB left my pressure-sensing valve caps loose, leaving me with 2 flat tires!

Don't take it too hard, the manual sucks for showing the jacking locations...

-Rav

-Mark P.

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Looks like the jack should fit right in there, doesn't it? What a nightmare... Fortunately I found a guy who had a floor jack in the trunk of his Corolla, of all things. Went out the next day and bought a compressor, floor jack and 4-way lug wrench and threw them in the trunk.

I did this, but the other way. I was out with my '84 Cutlass on a cruise with the car club of Virginia Tech (where I went to school). One of the guys with a 240SX ran off the road and cut a tire. His little soda-can-sized bottle jack didn't hardly do anything. I took out the comparatively huge scissors jack from my big ol' Oldsmobile and jacking up that little light Nissan was nothing. Had it way up in the air in seconds. :)

Jason(2001 STS, White Diamond)

"When you turn your car on...does it return the favor?"

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[.....unfortunately I had it in the wrong spot so it hung up instead of just tipping over and it stayed stuck in there scraping and raising hell. People were gesturing at me and all....I just drove along like nothing was wrong and I was deaf.....LOL LOL It is a LOT more funny now than it was then. I am still not sure what happened to that twisted up, ground away jack that was stuck to that car I brought into the engineering garage....LOL....I'll probably show up at my retirement party.

That's hilarious!

You can bet that old jack or a duplicate will turn up sooner or later!

Kevin
'93 Fleetwood Brougham
'05 Deville
'04 Deville
2013 Silverado Z71

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Volkswagen Scirroccos are nose heavy. I found out how much several years ago when I bought one to autocross and decided to put on a cat back exhaust. I jacked up the back with a big jumper jack after being unable to thread the pipe over the bottom beam part of the swing axle set up. I needed about two more inches and on the second swing trying to get it slightly higher the car tipped over onto its nose. I had to get two friends to come over and help me pull the thing back down onto the jack without destroying anything. the new exhaust sure was easy to work on in the mean time!

Other jack story. Had big block Pltmouth Fury ll. I blew a rear tire and proceeded to change the tire on asphalt with the temp. around 96 degrees and sunny, so you can imagine how hot the asphalt was. I got the old tire off and sure enough mother nature started to knock loudly. By the time I got back to the car, the jack had sunk so deeply into the parking lot that not only could I not get the tire off the car even extending the jack fully, but after I borrowed another jack (with a piece of broken pallet under the second jack) and got the tire changed, it proved impossible for me to get the first jack out from where it was imbedded. I drove by there once about a week later and the jack was still imbedded in the corner of the parks parking lot.

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