emeryrichmond Posted September 20, 2006 Report Share Posted September 20, 2006 Hi, I have a leaking (rusted/rotted) gas fill tube on my 96 Seville SLS. I tried to order one from an online parts house, but it turns out the description was a fuel filler tube, but when you click on "more info" it isn't a tube at all, its some electrical connector to the fuel door opener switch. Any way, I was hoping to find out how difficult it is to replace. I was under the car a week or two ago to change the rear brake lines and I noticed how rusty it was. Then I did something kinda dumb. I touched it. Now when I fill up, if I "top off", I get a gas puddle under the car. I am also getting emmisions fault codes. I am pretty sure that they are because the fuel system isn't able to pressurize. I didn't want to go to the dealer (time constraints and $$$). I was thinking of trying to replace the rusty fill tube with rubber hose. There is already ruber hose at the end of the tube and it connects to a plastic fuel tank, so I didn't think that there would be a grounding issue. Has anyone had to replace this part on their car? Oh, by the way, I checked e0bay and they had some for FORDS and one for a DODGE Charger. Thanks for any comments / suggestions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BodybyFisher Posted September 20, 2006 Report Share Posted September 20, 2006 See this thread: http://caddyinfo.ipbhost.com/index.php?sho...gas+filler+pipe Pre-1995 - DTC codes OBD1 >> 1996 and newer - DTC codes OBD2 >> https://www.obd-codes.com/trouble_codes/gm/obd_codes.htm How to check for codes Caddyinfo How To Technical Archive >> http://www.caddyinfo.com/wordpress/cadillac-how-to-faq/ Cadillac History & Specifications Year by Year http://www.motorera.com/cadillac/index.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emeryrichmond Posted September 20, 2006 Author Report Share Posted September 20, 2006 See this thread: http://caddyinfo.ipbhost.com/index.php?sho...gas+filler+pipe Thank you 'BbF', I should have done a search. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BodybyFisher Posted September 20, 2006 Report Share Posted September 20, 2006 No problem, one of the benefits of being a regular is that you remember that certain topics were covered. I remembered that your topic was covered in the past, mostly because my 96 has the same problem....so it was easy for me to do the search... good luck, it looks like an easy problem to fix, report back your experience for our benefit, Mike Pre-1995 - DTC codes OBD1 >> 1996 and newer - DTC codes OBD2 >> https://www.obd-codes.com/trouble_codes/gm/obd_codes.htm How to check for codes Caddyinfo How To Technical Archive >> http://www.caddyinfo.com/wordpress/cadillac-how-to-faq/ Cadillac History & Specifications Year by Year http://www.motorera.com/cadillac/index.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emeryrichmond Posted September 21, 2006 Author Report Share Posted September 21, 2006 ....... good luck, it looks like an easy problem to fix, report back your experience for our benefit, Mike I will Mike. I just have to get to the dealer and order the thing. Any ball park figure on cost? $25 - $40 range, $40 - $75 range, $75 - $100 range, or <gulp> higher? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BodybyFisher Posted September 21, 2006 Report Share Posted September 21, 2006 ....... good luck, it looks like an easy problem to fix, report back your experience for our benefit, Mike I will Mike. I just have to get to the dealer and order the thing. Any ball park figure on cost? $25 - $40 range, $40 - $75 range, $75 - $100 range, or <gulp> higher? Your local dealer will be expensive, get a quote from your local dealer then get a quote from http://www.gmotors.com I think it was about $100 but not sure Pre-1995 - DTC codes OBD1 >> 1996 and newer - DTC codes OBD2 >> https://www.obd-codes.com/trouble_codes/gm/obd_codes.htm How to check for codes Caddyinfo How To Technical Archive >> http://www.caddyinfo.com/wordpress/cadillac-how-to-faq/ Cadillac History & Specifications Year by Year http://www.motorera.com/cadillac/index.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emeryrichmond Posted September 21, 2006 Author Report Share Posted September 21, 2006 Your local dealer will be expensive, get a quote from your local dealer then get a quote from http://www.gmotors.com I think it was about $100 but not sure Ouch ouch ouch ouch Make.................Cadillac Model................Seville, SLS Year..................1996 Parts.................fuel filler tube (25656174) Price..................$179.93 freight...............$11.00 (UPS) Total Cost.........$190.93 This is from 'gmotors'. I can't wait to see what my local dealer wants. ouch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regis Posted September 21, 2006 Report Share Posted September 21, 2006 That figure sounds about right. I recall my fill tube costing around $150. But it'll most likely be the last fill tube you ever replace on the caddy so don't feel too bad. "Burns" rubber " I've never considered myself to be all that conservative, but it seems the more liberal some people get the more conservative I become. " Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emeryrichmond Posted September 21, 2006 Author Report Share Posted September 21, 2006 Your local dealer will be expensive, get a quote from your local dealer then get a quote from http://www.gmotors.com I think it was about $100 but not sure Ouch ouch ouch ouch Make.................Cadillac Model................Seville, SLS Year..................1996 Parts.................fuel filler tube (25656174) Price..................$179.93 freight...............$11.00 (UPS) Total Cost.........$190.93 This is from 'gmotors'. I can't wait to see what my local dealer wants. ouch I just got off the phone with Orr Cadillac in Springfield, Mass. I'm glad I was sitting down. They want $254.15. I guess I have to pay the $190.00, Oh well. Its cheaper than a car payment. Thanks for all you help again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BodybyFisher Posted September 21, 2006 Report Share Posted September 21, 2006 Ahh I know Springfield, Mass, my son goes to Westfield State College... Well its not THAT much cheaper, I usually find gmotors to do a little better than that, but I am sure this is a part that is NOT in big demand.. Good Luck Pre-1995 - DTC codes OBD1 >> 1996 and newer - DTC codes OBD2 >> https://www.obd-codes.com/trouble_codes/gm/obd_codes.htm How to check for codes Caddyinfo How To Technical Archive >> http://www.caddyinfo.com/wordpress/cadillac-how-to-faq/ Cadillac History & Specifications Year by Year http://www.motorera.com/cadillac/index.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dadillac Posted September 22, 2006 Report Share Posted September 22, 2006 Before I paid $200 for a short piece of tube, I would make sure that I couldn't do it cheaper. If your tube is in good shape near the rubber hoses, cut it there, and use some coolant hose for the piece you cut out. Even if it only lasts for a year before you have to do it again, you will never spend $200 on the hose. But, if it just can't be done, then spend the $. How long can the pipe be anyway? How sophisticated is its design? Another option is going to a muffler shop, and have them make you a stainless pipe, in the shape you need. Don "Modern warriors saddle iron horses of chrome." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regis Posted September 22, 2006 Report Share Posted September 22, 2006 Chances are that the entire fill tube looks like swiss cheese. They don't just rust in one spot. Mine looked like it took a couple loads of buck shot. $200 may seem steep but it's a good length of twin tubing and comes with the filler end and flap door. And keep in mind that your old filler tube made it 10 years....not too shabby if you ask me. "Burns" rubber " I've never considered myself to be all that conservative, but it seems the more liberal some people get the more conservative I become. " Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fred Posted September 22, 2006 Report Share Posted September 22, 2006 In my day metal lasted alot longer.. I mean there was more of it I guess. MerryChristmas Be a Capitalist or work for one. Work for a Capitalist or be one. MerryChristmas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BodybyFisher Posted September 22, 2006 Report Share Posted September 22, 2006 Those tubes are not protected from the elements, water is able to hit mine directly off the tire. Add salt from the roads and they are wasting away the minute they leave the showroom.. I would get it fixed, you are going to allow water to enter the tank soon... I would not jury rig it by covering it with hose, duck tape, etc, as it could allow corrosion to enter the tank as it deteriorates... Pre-1995 - DTC codes OBD1 >> 1996 and newer - DTC codes OBD2 >> https://www.obd-codes.com/trouble_codes/gm/obd_codes.htm How to check for codes Caddyinfo How To Technical Archive >> http://www.caddyinfo.com/wordpress/cadillac-how-to-faq/ Cadillac History & Specifications Year by Year http://www.motorera.com/cadillac/index.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
epricedright Posted September 22, 2006 Report Share Posted September 22, 2006 Sounds like that would be a good candidate for some of that spray rust-proofing, after replacing it. Or even spraying an old one, that hasn't corroded too bad yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigCat83 Posted September 22, 2006 Report Share Posted September 22, 2006 I paid about $139.00 for the tube to my '97 Eldorado from Brasington GM in Florida (Jacksonville I think). They do have a web site www.gmotors.com. Worth a phone call. I buy virtually all of my Eldo parts from them. The job itself is not difficult - remove the screws where the fill end is located under the filler door, undo the hose clamps from the gas tank and pull the whole thing out. I would advise a good thick coating of parts store rust proofing - mine was badly rotted... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George1111 Posted September 25, 2006 Report Share Posted September 25, 2006 I paid about $139.00 for the tube to my '97 Eldorado from Brasington GM in Florida (Jacksonville I think). They do have a web site www.gmotors.com. Worth a phone call. I buy virtually all of my Eldo parts from them. The job itself is not difficult - remove the screws where the fill end is located under the filler door, undo the hose clamps from the gas tank and pull the whole thing out. I would advise a good thick coating of parts store rust proofing - mine was badly rotted... I found one at a used parts yard for $25.00 in perfect shape. IT was easy to change took about an hour. George Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigCat83 Posted September 26, 2006 Report Share Posted September 26, 2006 A tip of the hat to you George! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phillip Posted September 27, 2006 Report Share Posted September 27, 2006 I am glad to hear that George got the job done for $25 and 1 hour. I have been watching this string because I have had the same problem. There is anyother string on draining your gas tank that describes what I went through. It cost me $75 for the used part and took about 2 hours. If you have to do an STS, I guess you can expect to pay a little bit more and spend a little bit more. Not bad though. Anyway, I just want to thank George and everyone else on this string as well. The help really paid off. Phillip Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emeryrichmond Posted September 28, 2006 Author Report Share Posted September 28, 2006 Before I paid $200 for a short piece of tube, I would make sure that I couldn't do it cheaper. If your tube is in good shape near the rubber hoses, cut it there, and use some coolant hose for the piece you cut out. Even if it only lasts for a year before you have to do it again, you will never spend $200 on the hose. But, if it just can't be done, then spend the $. How long can the pipe be anyway? How sophisticated is its design? Another option is going to a muffler shop, and have them make you a stainless pipe, in the shape you need. Don I gave the muffler shop idea a lot of thought but decided to do it (closer) to right. I started a new thread about how I changed it, so it would be easier to find in the future and might even get into the "how to" archives. Chances are that the entire fill tube looks like swiss cheese. . Mine looked like it took a couple loads of buck shot. $ That's the best way to describe what mine looked like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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