rlegg911 Posted February 18, 2009 Report Share Posted February 18, 2009 Hi all, new here. I own a 2000 Deville, northstar of course, bought with 65,000 miles on it. Burned 4 quarts of oil in frst 3,000 miles. Lithia motors replaced with new rebuilt motor from Jasper Engines, bill was $6,500.00, no cost to me. Now we have developed a lower end knock at 77,000 miles, Jasper is sending another new rebuilt motor, again at no charge to me. Just the other day, service engine soon light came on, code is PO741, local caddy dealer says bring it in, will cost around $2,200.00 to fix. I am told the tranny is the problem, torque converter lockup or something. Love the car, but this thing is killin' me, engine twice and tranny now too? Are the caddy people jerkin' me around or what? I'm told it is about $850.00 in parts to fix the tranny, the other $ 1,400.00 must be labor? WTF? any thoughts? Thanks, Nodak Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trev0006 Posted March 2, 2009 Report Share Posted March 2, 2009 77K miles is not much for the problems you are having, was the car maintained properly? Cars and fast motorcycles video collection Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texas Jim Posted March 3, 2009 Report Share Posted March 3, 2009 Hi all, new here. I own a 2000 Deville, northstar of course, bought with 65,000 miles on it. Burned 4 quarts of oil in frst 3,000 miles. Lithia motors replaced with new rebuilt motor from Jasper Engines, bill was $6,500.00, no cost to me. Now we have developed a lower end knock at 77,000 miles, Jasper is sending another new rebuilt motor, again at no charge to me. Just the other day, service engine soon light came on, code is PO741, local caddy dealer says bring it in, will cost around $2,200.00 to fix. I am told the tranny is the problem, torque converter lockup or something. Love the car, but this thing is killin' me, engine twice and tranny now too? Are the caddy people jerkin' me around or what? I'm told it is about $850.00 in parts to fix the tranny, the other $ 1,400.00 must be labor? WTF? any thoughts? Thanks, Nodak You could look at it this way...you have a 2000 model with a brand new engine. Jasper makes good engines. Yours is the first one I have read about having to go back. P0741 - TCC System Stuck Off That is the "Torque Converter Clutch"...stuck off. It means that the torque converter is not locking up as you get up to speed. I think there are several people here that have driven a long time with that code. You will just lose about 1 mpg in fuel mileage. I think someone made the statement one time..."A $20 dollar part buried $2000 deep in the transmission." Someone will correct me if I am wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BodybyFisher Posted March 3, 2009 Report Share Posted March 3, 2009 This guy made TWO posts and went away, and never came back. As the poster above noted, we know nothing about the history of this engine. Some 2000 engines had their pistons replaced due to high oil consumption if I am not mistaken. But we know NOTHING about this engine, how it was driven, why the engine was replaced and why WOT procedures were not tried It is NOT GM's fault that the Jasper engine knocked 12,000 miles later and they are replacing it for free As for the TRANNY problem this member posted in another forum and I responded this way: The Tranny problem could be taken care of while the engine is out very very easily. This could be the TCC solenoid or the torque converter.. Piece of cake while the carriage is down and the engine is out Some people come here to vent and go away, hopefully we will get more information one day on this Here is his other thread http://caddyinfo.ipbhost.com/index.php?showtopic=20999 Pre-1995 - DTC codes OBD1 >> 1996 and newer - DTC codes OBD2 >> https://www.obd-codes.com/trouble_codes/gm/obd_codes.htm How to check for codes Caddyinfo How To Technical Archive >> http://www.caddyinfo.com/wordpress/cadillac-how-to-faq/ Cadillac History & Specifications Year by Year http://www.motorera.com/cadillac/index.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texas Jim Posted March 3, 2009 Report Share Posted March 3, 2009 This guy made TWO posts and went away, and never came back. As the poster above noted, we know nothing about the history of this engine. Some 2000 engines had their pistons replaced due to high oil consumption if I am not mistaken. But we know NOTHING about this engine, how it was driven, why the engine was replaced and why WOT procedures were not tried It is NOT GM's fault that the Jasper engine knocked 12,000 miles later and they are replacing it for free As for the TRANNY problem this member posted in another forum and I responded this way: The Tranny problem could be taken care of while the engine is out very very easily. This could be the TCC solenoid or the torque converter.. Piece of cake while the carriage is down and the engine is out Some people come here to vent and go away, hopefully we will get more information one day on this Here is his other thread http://caddyinfo.ipbhost.com/index.php?showtopic=20999 Thanks Mike, I remember now...that you responded to him in the other thread. I had forgot about that....reckon I am getting "Old Timers Disease"... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BodybyFisher Posted March 3, 2009 Report Share Posted March 3, 2009 Not at all Jim, I was not directing my post to you at all, I wanted to kind of pull these two thread together. I was unable to MERGE them for some reason... Pre-1995 - DTC codes OBD1 >> 1996 and newer - DTC codes OBD2 >> https://www.obd-codes.com/trouble_codes/gm/obd_codes.htm How to check for codes Caddyinfo How To Technical Archive >> http://www.caddyinfo.com/wordpress/cadillac-how-to-faq/ Cadillac History & Specifications Year by Year http://www.motorera.com/cadillac/index.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ranger Posted March 3, 2009 Report Share Posted March 3, 2009 I'm told it is about $850.00 in parts to fix the tranny, the other $ 1,400.00 must be labor? WTF? any thoughts?I'm told it is about $850.00 in parts to fix the tranny, the other $ 1,400.00 must be labor? WTF? any thoughts? As BBF mentioned, if it is done while the drivetrain is out for the engine replacement, labor should be MUCH less. Parts are probably the $20 solenoid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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