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Dave in Texas

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I'm replacing my engine with a reman and replacing old pieces. Two of the pieces I need to replace are the 3" green-color silicone hoses that connect coolant piping. I've found that RockAuto has the hose, but they require buying 25 of the 3" pieces at $7/piece.....! Being a poor old man, I can't afford $180+ for some hose. I'm wondering if using 3/4" heater hose is a good substitute or some other type of flexible hose/piping? I wonder why silicone hose is used.....? Thanks for any advice, I appreciate the help.

GM Reman 4.1 engine Dec '08

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You need to replace these silicone heater hoses with the same kind. They are close to the EGR valve, and they get a LOT of heat on them, plus the normal very hot coolant in them.

If the old ones clean up OK, with no cracks or cuts, I would use the original ones. (at well over 200k miles, mine are still in great shape.)

If you feel that you must replace them, just get them from the dealer; gotta be less than $180 for two of them.

-George

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I agree with George, I did replace mine but the old ones were just fine. They are quite expensive, my memory tells me that they were about $10 each. or more, I can't remember exactly. Do one thing however, if you don't replace the hoses, when you tighten the clamps, make sure you face the screw so that it will be easier to get at them if you have to.

You should replace the hose clamps on those hoses, replace them with clamps screw fasteners that you can use a screw driver AND a small wrench with, so if you have to get them off, you have options.

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I wonder why silicone hose is used.....?

Because as mentioned they are more heat resistant and due to the difficulty in getting at them, GM (fortunately) decided to use something durable.

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ok, thanks for the advice. I loath buying anything from 'the dealer'...:). Each section looks good, but them being 21+yrs of age....One of the sections connects piping that runs under the engine, while the other is in a much different enviroment.....under the LF exhaust manifold. I may just swap those sections and carry some heater hose in the trunk. I'll check locally for 3/4" silicone hose.....maybe some other cars use it too.

GM Reman 4.1 engine Dec '08

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I would NOT use standard hose in that location

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Use the GREEN SILICONE HOSES! As others have posted there is too much heat in that area to use anything other than that green silicone material.

I replaced mine when I Timeserted my block.

They are expensive (I recall about $24.00 each from my local dealer) because of the material.

Call Brasington Cadillac in Gainesville, FL and they'll set you up with what you need at a reasonable price.

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They were expensive, you are correct, I thought I paid $18, about 3 years ago. But, my feeling was that I was not going to do it again and while I had the crossover off, it was time, I kept the old ones in my tool box

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