sts4rmdapast Posted July 17, 2008 Report Share Posted July 17, 2008 the a/c isnt holding it's charge past 3 days at the most. i was wondering if it's a bad idea to use sealant to repair a leak in the accumulator, not just any sealnt either that you find in walmart and crap, but top of the line. let me know if it's worth it, or is it a waste of time, let me know Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jking220 Posted July 17, 2008 Report Share Posted July 17, 2008 Check out the recent post "need some expert AC help" Sealant could have caused his problems. NEVER USE SEALANT FOR YOUR AC Jonah Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BodybyFisher Posted July 17, 2008 Report Share Posted July 17, 2008 See this link http://caddyinfo.ipbhost.com/index.php?showtopic=18342 Pre-1995 - DTC codes OBD1 >> 1996 and newer - DTC codes OBD2 >> https://www.obd-codes.com/trouble_codes/gm/obd_codes.htm How to check for codes Caddyinfo How To Technical Archive >> http://www.caddyinfo.com/wordpress/cadillac-how-to-faq/ Cadillac History & Specifications Year by Year http://www.motorera.com/cadillac/index.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BodybyFisher Posted July 17, 2008 Report Share Posted July 17, 2008 Where is the leak, at the connector, or the body of the accumulator itself? If its the connector, why not get new o-rings, lube them with the proper lube and re-do the connection? If the body is leaking you need to replace the accumulator Pre-1995 - DTC codes OBD1 >> 1996 and newer - DTC codes OBD2 >> https://www.obd-codes.com/trouble_codes/gm/obd_codes.htm How to check for codes Caddyinfo How To Technical Archive >> http://www.caddyinfo.com/wordpress/cadillac-how-to-faq/ Cadillac History & Specifications Year by Year http://www.motorera.com/cadillac/index.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sts4rmdapast Posted July 17, 2008 Author Report Share Posted July 17, 2008 Check out the recent post "need some expert AC help" Sealant could have caused his problems. NEVER USE SEALANT FOR YOUR AC ok, now i've been doing some reading up on the use of sealants, spoken with a few people, i want to know fact vs opinion, if the sealant will be the killer of my already dead system. some people say it's fine to use sealant(not the cheapo kind) while others say it's a sin to use it on your a/c. does it depend on the chemical substance itself or are they all the same, i've dealth with the cans from autoparts store and walmart, real nasty and sticky which i understand why it can clog up the system, but what about the sealnt that shops use as alternatives to repair, are those the same. but in th end, if the leak is in the body itself, is there any alternative to actual replacement? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BodybyFisher Posted July 17, 2008 Report Share Posted July 17, 2008 Rock Auto has a new accumulator for $25.00 for your car, its not an AC DELCO, but it solves your problem Find an AC shop Have it evacuated Replace accumulator Suck a Vacuum Recharge They would return YOUR FREON and ONLY charge you for what it is LOW, plus their time for the evacuate and recharge... You might be surprised at how cheap it is to do it right. Pre-1995 - DTC codes OBD1 >> 1996 and newer - DTC codes OBD2 >> https://www.obd-codes.com/trouble_codes/gm/obd_codes.htm How to check for codes Caddyinfo How To Technical Archive >> http://www.caddyinfo.com/wordpress/cadillac-how-to-faq/ Cadillac History & Specifications Year by Year http://www.motorera.com/cadillac/index.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sts4rmdapast Posted July 18, 2008 Author Report Share Posted July 18, 2008 Rock Auto has a new accumulator for $25.00 for your car, its not an AC DELCO, but it solves your problem Find an AC shop Have it evacuated Replace accumulator Suck a Vacuum Recharge They would return YOUR FREON and ONLY charge you for what it is LOW, plus their time for the evacuate and recharge... You might be surprised at how cheap it is to do it right. unfortunatly, the accumulator isnt for a caddy, it's for a 97 pontiac grand am Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BodybyFisher Posted July 18, 2008 Report Share Posted July 18, 2008 What do you mean?, we have not been discussing your 92 4.9 Caddy? I just looked back, this appears to be the first time you said this was a Pontiac, if this was about a 97 Pontiac Grand Am, next time state that up front. Pre-1995 - DTC codes OBD1 >> 1996 and newer - DTC codes OBD2 >> https://www.obd-codes.com/trouble_codes/gm/obd_codes.htm How to check for codes Caddyinfo How To Technical Archive >> http://www.caddyinfo.com/wordpress/cadillac-how-to-faq/ Cadillac History & Specifications Year by Year http://www.motorera.com/cadillac/index.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jking220 Posted July 18, 2008 Report Share Posted July 18, 2008 OMG Jonah Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BodybyFisher Posted July 18, 2008 Report Share Posted July 18, 2008 I like your use of the Three Stooges Kabong to emphasis the audacity.... Someone get the stage hook Pre-1995 - DTC codes OBD1 >> 1996 and newer - DTC codes OBD2 >> https://www.obd-codes.com/trouble_codes/gm/obd_codes.htm How to check for codes Caddyinfo How To Technical Archive >> http://www.caddyinfo.com/wordpress/cadillac-how-to-faq/ Cadillac History & Specifications Year by Year http://www.motorera.com/cadillac/index.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sts4rmdapast Posted July 18, 2008 Author Report Share Posted July 18, 2008 OMG, I sincerely apology, i cant believe i was saying accumulator, i meant the evaporator. i dont know why in the world i keep getting those two confused. and now that i have corrected myself, can i pose those questions that i asked before to an evaporator. please, i apologize for the mistake here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sts4rmdapast Posted July 18, 2008 Author Report Share Posted July 18, 2008 and yes it's for a pontiac grand am, i know this is a caddilac forum, but you guys have the best answers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ranger Posted July 18, 2008 Report Share Posted July 18, 2008 Admittedly, I don't know that much about it, but I'd be very hesitant to put any sealer in an A/C system. I'm surprised Kevin hasn't chimed in yet. He seems to be our residen A/C guy and he always advises against it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BodybyFisher Posted July 18, 2008 Report Share Posted July 18, 2008 Well since this is a Cadillac board, and we typically stick with Cadillac stuff, it would have been nice of you to inform us that this was a Pontiac, and I might not have sat here since 7:30 trying to help you and went to make my dinner... but that said, yes, we would like to know, it might make a difference, like me not wasting TIME looking up the price of your accumulator for a 92 CADILLAC... and I could have DONE it RIGHT the first time and given you the price for a PONTIAC. In spite of me spending time looking up the DANGERS of using sealer and me providing two FN good articles on the FN dangers of sealant you post this "i want to know fact vs opinion". HUH? Where I come from we call that a brass set.. Facts VS opinion?, that article was written by an AC EXPERT, our OWN expert KHE says NEVER TO USE sealer. What more do you want, what you want to hear? HELL yea dude, use the good stuff, the REALLY good stuff and YOU WILL BE CHILLIN DUDE.... OR do you want me to give you the facts... Then you admit, that you have been debating this issue with others...... Bahaaaaaaa This thread cracks me up... Listen stop being so TIGHT with the CASH and do it right... www.acsource.com has an accumulator for you car as FOLLOWS: SKU: Accumulator/Filter Driers for 1997 Pontiac Grand Am (3.1 V6 Gas FI) . . SKU: 122489-P/N: 33158A Auto AC Parts -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Our price: $24.47 We aim to please, be honest next time Pre-1995 - DTC codes OBD1 >> 1996 and newer - DTC codes OBD2 >> https://www.obd-codes.com/trouble_codes/gm/obd_codes.htm How to check for codes Caddyinfo How To Technical Archive >> http://www.caddyinfo.com/wordpress/cadillac-how-to-faq/ Cadillac History & Specifications Year by Year http://www.motorera.com/cadillac/index.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BodybyFisher Posted July 18, 2008 Report Share Posted July 18, 2008 My final advice to you is the BEST place to get Pontiac info is here > http://www.pontiacforum.com/ Click Introduce Yourself When you need help with the 92 Cadillac we can help, I had a 91 Seville 4.9 myself... Pre-1995 - DTC codes OBD1 >> 1996 and newer - DTC codes OBD2 >> https://www.obd-codes.com/trouble_codes/gm/obd_codes.htm How to check for codes Caddyinfo How To Technical Archive >> http://www.caddyinfo.com/wordpress/cadillac-how-to-faq/ Cadillac History & Specifications Year by Year http://www.motorera.com/cadillac/index.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BodybyFisher Posted July 18, 2008 Report Share Posted July 18, 2008 OMG, I sincerely apology, i cant believe i was saying accumulator, i meant the evaporator. i dont know why in the world i keep getting those two confused. and now that i have corrected myself, can i pose those questions that i asked before to an evaporator. please, i apologize for the mistake here EVAPORATOR? OMG, I have been circle jerking for the last two hours... I am going to eat....Bahhhaaaaaaaa Replace it, leaves get down there, rot the aluminum, its now rotted, fix one spot, it will leak someplace else.. Ahh now wasnt that much easier? Pre-1995 - DTC codes OBD1 >> 1996 and newer - DTC codes OBD2 >> https://www.obd-codes.com/trouble_codes/gm/obd_codes.htm How to check for codes Caddyinfo How To Technical Archive >> http://www.caddyinfo.com/wordpress/cadillac-how-to-faq/ Cadillac History & Specifications Year by Year http://www.motorera.com/cadillac/index.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sts4rmdapast Posted July 18, 2008 Author Report Share Posted July 18, 2008 Well since this is a Cadillac board, and we typically stick with Cadillac stuff, it would have been nice of you to inform us that this was a Pontiac, and I might not have sat here since 7:30 trying to help you and went to make my dinner... but that said, yes, we would like to know, it might make a difference, like me not wasting TIME looking up the price of your accumulator for a 92 CADILLAC... and I could have DONE it RIGHT the first time and given you the price for a PONTIAC. In spite of me spending time looking up the DANGERS of using sealer and me providing two FN good articles on the FN dangers of sealant you post this "i want to know fact vs opinion". Where I come from we call that a brass set.. Facts VS opinion?, that article was written by an AC EXPERT, our OWN expert KHE says NEVER TO USE sealer. What more do you want, what you want to hear? HELL yea dude, use the good stuff, the REALLY good stuff and YOU WILL BE CHILLIN DUDE.... OR do you want me to give you the facts... Then you admit, that you have been debating this issue with others...... Bahaaaaaaa This thread cracks me up... Listen stop being so TIGHT with the CASH and do it right... www.acsource.com has an accumulator for you car as FOLLOWS: SKU: Accumulator/Filter Driers for 1997 Pontiac Grand Am (3.1 V6 Gas FI) . . SKU: 122489-P/N: 33158A Auto AC Parts -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Our price: $24.47 We aim to please, be honest next time i tried pulling up that site you posted to read it but it gave me an error message as incorrect url or something. my questions towards coolantwas, was it a matter of using the right coolant, one type(brand, make-up, etc) vs another. and then later i saw you posted new links in which i did check out, iread the post, and from what i gathered, the sealants being tested work, they wont clog the systems if done correctly, etc, and but as you said KHE says dont use them. i wanted to know which way to go. thats all. fine i'm boo boo the fool here, but hey, you guys are answering my questions and i appreciate that. The reason i ask is because, when i discuss, not debate, the use of coolant, they never actually said they used it and it clogged up there system, they just say thats what they hear or read. thats all Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BodybyFisher Posted July 18, 2008 Report Share Posted July 18, 2008 AC Source Pre-1995 - DTC codes OBD1 >> 1996 and newer - DTC codes OBD2 >> https://www.obd-codes.com/trouble_codes/gm/obd_codes.htm How to check for codes Caddyinfo How To Technical Archive >> http://www.caddyinfo.com/wordpress/cadillac-how-to-faq/ Cadillac History & Specifications Year by Year http://www.motorera.com/cadillac/index.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jking220 Posted July 18, 2008 Report Share Posted July 18, 2008 EVAPORATOR? OMG, I have been circle jerking for the last two hours... I am going to eat....Bahhhaaaaaaaa AHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!! I need another drink. I must... Jonah Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BodybyFisher Posted July 18, 2008 Report Share Posted July 18, 2008 Well since this is a Cadillac board, and we typically stick with Cadillac stuff, it would have been nice of you to inform us that this was a Pontiac, and I might not have sat here since 7:30 trying to help you and went to make my dinner... but that said, yes, we would like to know, it might make a difference, like me not wasting TIME looking up the price of your accumulator for a 92 CADILLAC... and I could have DONE it RIGHT the first time and given you the price for a PONTIAC. In spite of me spending time looking up the DANGERS of using sealer and me providing two FN good articles on the FN dangers of sealant you post this "i want to know fact vs opinion". Where I come from we call that a brass set.. Facts VS opinion?, that article was written by an AC EXPERT, our OWN expert KHE says NEVER TO USE sealer. What more do you want, what you want to hear? HELL yea dude, use the good stuff, the REALLY good stuff and YOU WILL BE CHILLIN DUDE.... OR do you want me to give you the facts... Then you admit, that you have been debating this issue with others...... Bahaaaaaaa This thread cracks me up... Listen stop being so TIGHT with the CASH and do it right... www.acsource.com has an accumulator for you car as FOLLOWS: SKU: Accumulator/Filter Driers for 1997 Pontiac Grand Am (3.1 V6 Gas FI) . . SKU: 122489-P/N: 33158A Auto AC Parts -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Our price: $24.47 We aim to please, be honest next time i tried pulling up that site you posted to read it but it gave me an error message as incorrect url or something. my questions towards coolantwas, was it a matter of using the right coolant, one type(brand, make-up, etc) vs another. and then later i saw you posted new links in which i did check out, iread the post, and from what i gathered, the sealants being tested work, they wont clog the systems if done correctly, etc, and but as you said KHE says dont use them. i wanted to know which way to go. thats all. fine i'm boo boo the fool here, but hey, you guys are answering my questions and i appreciate that. The reason i ask is because, when i discuss, not debate, the use of coolant, they never actually said they used it and it clogged up there system, they just say thats what they hear or read. thats all If you are talking about DEXCOOL, it is OK for a NORTHSTAR, DO NOT use it in your 4.9 Cadillac engine. IF, the 97 Pontiac came with it, OK, but, there has been an issue with the Dexcool and intake manifold seals. Unfortunately, there is a tentative class action suit. I might consider using GREEN on that 97, but the silicates would be worse if you ask me. I will let KHE comment, I think he would agree. If it came with Dexcool, keep using it... Here is the Dexcool Tentative class action suit, I don't know the disposition at this point <a href="http://www.gohtsn.com/article_860.shtml" target="_blank">http://www.gohtsn.com/article_860.shtml</a> Pre-1995 - DTC codes OBD1 >> 1996 and newer - DTC codes OBD2 >> https://www.obd-codes.com/trouble_codes/gm/obd_codes.htm How to check for codes Caddyinfo How To Technical Archive >> http://www.caddyinfo.com/wordpress/cadillac-how-to-faq/ Cadillac History & Specifications Year by Year http://www.motorera.com/cadillac/index.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sts4rmdapast Posted July 18, 2008 Author Report Share Posted July 18, 2008 but no not coolant, but sealant. sorry.i'm just sowrapped up at work that i'm paying close attn to what i write Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sts4rmdapast Posted July 18, 2008 Author Report Share Posted July 18, 2008 if i have to have it replaced, then i'll do it, but not before i exhaust any other alternatives, unfortunately i have to be tight with the cash, i need my dollars to last to get by. and if i can find a cheap way to get what i want then i will, but if not i'll head to the shop, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KHE Posted July 18, 2008 Report Share Posted July 18, 2008 How was a bad evaporator diagnosed? A little history would be helpful since R&Ring an evaporator can be a tough job depending on the vehicle. You don't want to replace an evaporator only to find out it was leaking in a different spot that was much easier and cheaper to fix. If the evaporator is leaking, forget air conditioning sealant - none of it works. All the sealer will do is ruin the system in the long run or some shop's recovery machine filter. The stuff that is a liquid in the absence of air and cures at the source of a leak due to exposure to air is the worst of the worst. It can clog up a system so bad that replacement of the ENTIRE system would be required to fix it - compressor, accumulator, condenser, evaporator, all hoses, etc. Talk about expense... No reputable A/C shop will EVER use a sealer.... If a shop suggests it, find a different shop. Kevin '93 Fleetwood Brougham '05 Deville '04 Deville 2013 Silverado Z71 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sts4rmdapast Posted July 18, 2008 Author Report Share Posted July 18, 2008 My final advice to you is the BEST place to get Pontiac info is here > http://www.pontiacforum.com/ Click Introduce Yourself When you need help with the 92 Cadillac we can help, I had a 91 Seville 4.9 myself... thanks for the tip, but i've tried that forum in which i get no help from, there are never really any members on to give responces, just guess, so thus i get no answer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BodybyFisher Posted July 18, 2008 Report Share Posted July 18, 2008 My final advice to you is the BEST place to get Pontiac info is here > <a href="http://www.pontiacforum.com/" target="_blank">http://www.pontiacforum.com/</a> Click Introduce Yourself When you need help with the 92 Cadillac we can help, I had a 91 Seville 4.9 myself... thanks for the tip, but i've tried that forum in which i get no help from, there are never really any members on to give responces, just guess, so thus i get no answer I have heard that about other forums before. Kevin posted some info above this post I am responding to. Good Luck Pre-1995 - DTC codes OBD1 >> 1996 and newer - DTC codes OBD2 >> https://www.obd-codes.com/trouble_codes/gm/obd_codes.htm How to check for codes Caddyinfo How To Technical Archive >> http://www.caddyinfo.com/wordpress/cadillac-how-to-faq/ Cadillac History & Specifications Year by Year http://www.motorera.com/cadillac/index.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Archived
This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.