scottt Posted May 7, 2004 Report Share Posted May 7, 2004 What is involved with decarbonization of the combustion chamber and what does it usually cost? Thanks guys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ranger Posted May 7, 2004 Report Share Posted May 7, 2004 Don't know what it costs but basicaly they pull the plugs, fill the cylinders with a solvent of some sort and let it set for about 2hrs. Then suck it out and change the oil. Not sure it's worth the price as it will just build up again. From what I have learned here I think some WOT applications are just as effective, much cheaper and a lot more fun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JIMDTS Posted May 7, 2004 Report Share Posted May 7, 2004 Larry pretty much covered it with the excetpion after the decarb. the tech takes the car out for quite a few WOT's ..Ahem Driveability test drive... Cheers Jim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigfoo Posted May 7, 2004 Report Share Posted May 7, 2004 EhEhEhe, don't forget about the gallons of $2 per gallon gas you waste.. so it's not TOTALLY free (big wide GRIN) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
growe3 Posted May 8, 2004 Report Share Posted May 8, 2004 EhEhEhe, don't forget about the gallons of $2 per gallon gas you waste.. so it's not TOTALLY free (big wide GRIN) $2 a gallon??? Where are you getting that cheap gas? Drive'em like you own 'em. - ....................04 DTS............................ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JasonA Posted May 8, 2004 Report Share Posted May 8, 2004 Definitely not in California. Prices in southern North Carolina are about 1.75/1.85/1.95 for the three grades right now. Jason(2001 STS, White Diamond) "When you turn your car on...does it return the favor?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigfoo Posted May 9, 2004 Report Share Posted May 9, 2004 Hehe yea it's about $1.95 in Ohio right now also. I remember just a handful of years ago it was under $1 for the regular gas ... sigh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimJ Posted May 9, 2004 Report Share Posted May 9, 2004 Those of us who have been around the block a few times remember cheep gas. When i was 16 I bought gas for $.199/Gal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ranger Posted May 9, 2004 Report Share Posted May 9, 2004 Yea, I seem to remember $.25 per gallon AND they pumped it for you, checked your tires, checked your oil and cleaned your windshield PLUS gave you "green stamps" or glasses or some other promotion. Hard to believe, ain't it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dasher Posted May 10, 2004 Report Share Posted May 10, 2004 When I bought my 2000 with 35k two years ago, I was getting a bout 1000 miles per quart of oil. I do the WOTS regularly like Guru says and I am now at 4,000 miles since the last oil change without adding a quart. I'm convinced it works. After the oil change, the oil level goes down fast; but it will run forever on the add mark. In my home town in Michigan, regular gas was $1.99. I drove 100 miles to Toledo and bought gast as a Shell Station for $1.66. It's things like that that make me think it's all a hoax. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clutterking Posted May 17, 2004 Report Share Posted May 17, 2004 Definitely not in California. Prices in southern North Carolina are about 1.75/1.85/1.95 for the three grades right now. gas is about $2.35/gal for premium here in new york Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimD Posted May 17, 2004 Report Share Posted May 17, 2004 ... In my home town in Michigan, regular gas was $1.99. I drove 100 miles to Toledo and bought gast as a Shell Station for $1.66. It's things like that that make me think it's all a hoax. Price differences from state to state are primarily tax levels. Plus a little bit of "how far are you from the refinery". Crude is above $41 per barrel and unleaded gas futures are $1.40 per gallon. No relief in sight!! Jim Drive your car. Use your cell phone. CHOOSE ONE ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KenD Posted May 17, 2004 Report Share Posted May 17, 2004 Hey you guys have it good with the prices. Here in Canada where I live in the prairies, the gas ranges from 91.9 cents per litre for regular grade and 101.9 per litre for the premium stuff. So, if you do the math, there's approximately 4 litres to each imperial gallon. You should stop complaining as every other country in the world is paying more for gas than the US. 1994 STS Pearl White 260,000 KM (163,000 miles) <img src="http://img45.photobucket.com/albums/v137/caesar/caddycaesar.jpg" border="0" class="linked-sig-image" /> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KHE Posted May 17, 2004 Report Share Posted May 17, 2004 Hey you guys have it good with the prices. Here in Canada where I live in the prairies, the gas ranges from 91.9 cents per litre for regular grade and 101.9 per litre for the premium stuff. So, if you do the math, there's approximately 4 litres to each imperial gallon. You should stop complaining as every other country in the world is paying more for gas than the US. Converting your prices to US dollars in US gallons, Regular: $2.51/gallon and Premium: 2.78/gallon. Kevin '93 Fleetwood Brougham '05 Deville '04 Deville 2013 Silverado Z71 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danbuc Posted May 20, 2004 Report Share Posted May 20, 2004 Getting back to the decarb, most car driven on the highway frequenlty and not just on the the back roads all the time don't really require having the engine decarbonized. Getting on the highway every day is usually enough in most cases to keep the engine relatively clean. In my case, I am the second owner of my car with only 50,000 miles on it. This isn't alot but the previous owner who was a realestate agent only used it to drive from house to house around town. This caused a lot of carbon build up on the valves and internal components. This eventually led to a rather loud and annoying engine knock. My friend had his 95 deville concours decarbed at around 75,000 miles due to the same symptoms (loud engine knock). It has since gone away. I just had it done today at a cost of 99.95 and it was worth it. The engine runs much smoother and there is no more knock from the engine. It may nmot be for everyone but if the symptoms are bad enough, it pay to have it done Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scotty Posted May 20, 2004 Report Share Posted May 20, 2004 Yea, I seem to remember $.25 per gallon AND they pumped it for you, checked your tires, checked your oil and cleaned your windshield PLUS gave you "green stamps" or glasses or some other promotion. Hard to believe, ain't it Ok Larry you got me, the lowest that I remember is 33 cents a gallon when I went to college with my 65 Convertible Coupe deVille and used to get $2 worth at a time!!! Imagine going and asking for $2 worth today? LOL...... Yes I'm OLD!!! Mike (I wish I had that 65 now with its 429) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ranger Posted May 21, 2004 Report Share Posted May 21, 2004 Yea, I seem to remember $.25 per gallon AND they pumped it for you, checked your tires, checked your oil and cleaned your windshield PLUS gave you "green stamps" or glasses or some other promotion. Hard to believe, ain't it Ok Larry you got me, the lowest that I remember is 33 cents a gallon when I went to college with my 65 Convertible Coupe deVille and used to get $2 worth at a time!!! Imagine going and asking for $2 worth today? LOL...... Yes I'm OLD!!! Mike (I wish I had that 65 now with its 429) Mike, That would be nice but you probably couldn't afford to feed that 429 today at about 7-8 MPG. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottt Posted May 21, 2004 Author Report Share Posted May 21, 2004 Hey danbuc, where did you have your decarb done? Thanx, Scott Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BSchlossmann Posted May 21, 2004 Report Share Posted May 21, 2004 We have a tie. The cheapest I ever bought gas was likewise $0.199, this was back in the early sixties somewhere in down state Illinois. As for the de-carbon, the dealer wanted $300.00 I did it my self and it made a nice difference. On my 93 4.6L Eldo it took about 4 hours to do the job. I may have gone over board and scraped every little piece of carbon out of the phenolic spacers and engine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
67coupedeville Posted May 21, 2004 Report Share Posted May 21, 2004 I do not feel that living near an oil refinery gets a person cheaper gas. There is an oil refinery literally blocks from where I live...BLOCKS...I look out my front yard and I can see the stacks in the air and I am paying 95.5 cents a litre for regular and $1.05 a litre for Premium. That is darn near $3.00 a gallon with exchange I figure. If only I could highjack one of the thousands of gas trucks that sails out of the Co-op refinery here I would be set for life. Although it would be quite difficult to hide a semi in my backyard . The oil companies have us like turtles on their backs and I do not feel there is an end in sight . BTW, where abouts on the praireis are you KenD? Spence Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danbuc Posted May 21, 2004 Report Share Posted May 21, 2004 Hey scottt, I had the decarb done at my local caddy dealer. Like I said it came out to be around $100.00. If you get it done, depending on how bad it is you might want to find something to do in the mean time. It was about 5 hours for them to do my car, not including the extra 3.5 hours it was for the 51,000 mile maintnence check. Overall, If there is a caddy dealer near you I would suggest getting it done there. Hope this helps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marika Posted May 21, 2004 Report Share Posted May 21, 2004 Definitely not in California. Prices in southern North Carolina are about 1.75/1.85/1.95 for the three grades right now. gas is about $2.35/gal for premium here in new york Getting just as bad here in New Jersey. Say $2.20/gallon for premium today. Ouch!! If you really want to make people safe drivers again then simply remove all the safety features from cars. No more seat belts, ABS brakes, traction control, air bags or stability control. No more anything. You'll see how quickly people will slow down and once again learn to drive like "normal" humans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KenD Posted May 21, 2004 Report Share Posted May 21, 2004 BTW, where abouts on the praireis are you KenD? I'll give you a hint.........we just scooped your QB! 1994 STS Pearl White 260,000 KM (163,000 miles) <img src="http://img45.photobucket.com/albums/v137/caesar/caddycaesar.jpg" border="0" class="linked-sig-image" /> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
67coupedeville Posted May 22, 2004 Report Share Posted May 22, 2004 Over in the 'Peg area huh. It also appears as if you are looking for a punter (another Regina product) . BTW test drove a 94 SLS today at a local used car lot, did a little decarbonization for it if ya know what I mean . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimHare Posted May 29, 2004 Report Share Posted May 29, 2004 Well, for my .02 worth - I got my license in '68, learning to drive in a '55 VW Bug with a non-synchro first gear. I think in those days our local Sinclair station where my dad was buddies with the owner probably sold gas for about 23 or 25 cents a gallon?.. don't remember real well, the dim mists of time and all... But I remember the '73 gas "crisis" when it first started really going up - filling up my Jag XKE V-12 in college became a pain, even working two jobs and only taking 6 credit hours.. I do agree with the 'foreign' posters though, we Americans have historically enjoyed lower gas prices than most of the rest of the world, even if much of the difference is government taxes. European drivers pay more, but often have better roads, too. Those of us in the "winter salt and snow belt" can tell horror stories about potholes, crumbling pavement and all that..so I suppose it evens out. The interesting thing seems to be that the economists tell us that, adjusted for inflation, gas is cheaper than it was in the 80's.. ??? The way I look at it is this - we have the freedom to choose to drive a large®, luxurious car with lots of space and power - and we pay the price in our gas milage. If we all drove Civics and got 50 MPG, it would be a different story. Ya pay for your thrills.... Let's check in about a month or so before our US election day, and see what the situation is.. "For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard P. Feynman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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