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My throttle has been sticking a little occasionally (quick blip of throttle pedal usually brings idle back down)

Well, stupidly removed the plate without really checking which way it came out.

So .... looking into the TB, when you insert the butterfly plate, should raised dimples be facing out towards you, or in towards the manifold side?

Appreciate anyone's help!

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My throttle has been sticking a little occasionally (quick blip of throttle pedal usually brings idle back down)

Well, stupidly removed the plate without really checking which way it came out.

So .... looking into the TB, when you insert the butterfly plate, should raised dimples be facing out towards you, or in towards the manifold side?

Appreciate anyone's help!

It looks like the raised dimples in (and also the stamped number) towards the manifold; there wasn't a huge amount of difference, but it seems to seal a little tighter that way round - there is possibly the finest of tapers on the edges that makes more sense in that orientation also.

It did hunt a little with the dimples out, better now.

Still appreciate a confirmation if anyone knows for sure.

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My throttle has been sticking a little occasionally (quick blip of throttle pedal usually brings idle back down)

This is also a symptom of the ISC points getting dirty. The points are closed when you release the throttle.

When the ISC points get dirty, contact is not made and the computer does not go to "idle" mode, which results

in the rpms remaining high.

Barry

2008 STS V8
2016 Colorado Z71
1970 Corvette LT-1 Coupe

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Let me ask, you removed the two screws holding the plate to the rod? I thought those screws were peened/staked and where hard to take out? Did you have a hard time taking the screws out? Be sure they are secure, you might want to use thread lock on them to ensure they don't back out and get into the induction system. BUT be sure the thread lock is not a problem for the O2 sensors and use it sparingly. Mike

This is also a symptom of the ISC points getting dirty.

Thanks for feedback guys

Can you accesss these "points" to clean them?

See this excellent thread for ISC cleaning and inspecting by Barry94, Mike

http://caddyinfo.ipbhost.com/index.php?sho...e+speed+control

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Let me ask, you removed the two screws holding the plate to the rod? I thought those screws were peened/staked and where hard to take out? Did you have a hard time taking the screws out? Be sure they are secure, you might want to use thread lock on them to ensure they don't back out and get into the induction system. BUT be sure the thread lock is not a problem for the O2 sensors and use it sparingly. Mike

They were easy to take out - it's a torx head. Yes, definitely don't want these coming out again - no worry there on that point!

See this excellent thread for ISC cleaning and inspecting by Barry94, Mike

http://caddyinfo.ipbhost.com/index.php?sho...e+speed+control

I'll see how it performs over next week or so - I'm less inlcined to think it's the ISC - it really doesn't hunt or randomly go to different speeds when actually at idle - pretty much just sticks at an elevated rpm & as I mentioned quick blip clears it. Sounds more like the plate sticking but we'll see!

Definitely one to book-mark though!

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How did you find cleaning it by taking the plate out?

Pre-1995 - DTC codes OBD1  >>

1996 and newer - DTC codes OBD2 >> https://www.obd-codes.com/trouble_codes/gm/obd_codes.htm

How to check for codes Caddyinfo How To Technical Archive >> http://www.caddyinfo.com/wordpress/cadillac-how-to-faq/

Cadillac History & Specifications Year by Year  http://www.motorera.com/cadillac/index.htm

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How did you find cleaning it by taking the plate out?

It made it easier to access cleaning the plate & the TB - just cleaned up with some carb/TB cleaner & a toothbrush & rag.

So far so good - haven't put too many miles since cleaned so will report back later on how effective the cleaning was.

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If your throttle is sticking so you have to give it a "quick blip" to release it, something is definately wrong. I'd check it closely. Maybe you need to spray out the throttle plate shaft better.

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