Cadillac STS Posted September 1, 2004 Report Share Posted September 1, 2004 I think my front brake pads need replacement. There is this horrible squeal that comes from the front wheels when i accelerate from a stop or when i let off the accelerator at low speeds 1mph-50mph...But its funny because when i do apply the brakes the squeal goes away? Like for instance in parking lots, without putting my foot on either the accelerator or brake pedals the front brakes squeal, only braking will shut the things up...sounds wired but I hope you guys can help me? EDIT: sorry to help you guys out a bit more the sound is more of a squeak then squeal. its simultaneously squeaking ..like a squeak...squeak…squeak..but as i go faster by pushing the accel the faster the squeaks get. as in the gap betwween squeaks is less What could it be? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scotty Posted September 1, 2004 Report Share Posted September 1, 2004 THe front brakes typically squeal as a warning that your pads are ready for replacement. The brakes have spring steel squeal sensors on them that scrape on the rotor to make the squeal. Do not ignore this noise as many people do, your next noise will be steel to steel grinding (pads or pad rivets against rotor). Your description is typical of worn front pads where the squeal stops on braking. Time for front brakes... PS: I always by OEM pads, they come with the squeal sensors, if you buy aftermarket pads be sure they come with the squeal sensors or your first warning will be steel to steel... Early on sailors navigated by the stars at night and the North star became the symbol for finding ones way home. Once you know where the Northstar is you can point your ship in the right direction to get home. So the star became a symbol for finding ones way home or more symbolically even finding ones path in life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adallak Posted September 1, 2004 Report Share Posted September 1, 2004 The brakes have spring steel squeal sensors on them that scrape on the rotor to make the squeal. Do not ignore this noise as many people do, your next noise will be steel to steel grinding (pads or pad rivets against rotor) your noise may also be bumper to bumper since the car will stop just a couple of feet farther when you could expect The saddest thing in life is wasted talent Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cadillac STS Posted September 1, 2004 Author Report Share Posted September 1, 2004 THANKS GUYS!!!..just wanted to confirm b4 i went ahead and removed the wheels Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ranger Posted September 1, 2004 Report Share Posted September 1, 2004 The brake wear indicators will typically squeal or "squeak, squeak, squeak" as the the indicator tab just barely touches the rotor but will frequently shut up when brake pressure is applied in the early stages. It will get worse if ignored and not go away when brake pressure is applied. As mentioned fix it now or you'll need rotors too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cadillac STS Posted September 1, 2004 Author Report Share Posted September 1, 2004 well the passenger side took me about an hour...decided i needed a brake err break; ... before i go onto the driver side.. hey this is my first time chanign my cars pads.. ill post pics later Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cadillac STS Posted September 1, 2004 Author Report Share Posted September 1, 2004 Alright the other side took me about 20 min....brakes feel a bit mushy...which wasn’t an issue with the old pads...but they these new ones feel smoother and there’s no feeling of rubber being rubbed against rubber I get from the pedal when coming to a complete stop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scotty Posted September 1, 2004 Report Share Posted September 1, 2004 well the passenger side took me about an hour...decided i needed a brake err break; ... before i go onto the driver side.. hey this is my first time chanign my cars pads.. ill post pics later Not bad if the calipers have the rubber cylindrical bushings in them that you have to pull out, replace and lube with grease. Did you resurface the rotors? Typically I take them to a machine shop and ask them to do a 'clean-up' cut. I am not sure why they might be mushy. Make sure you bed them, I don't know the procedure exactly, but if you do a search under bedding the brakes posted by bbobynski you will find the procedure. It involves a series of high-speed stops..but its specific and you do not stop the vehicle fully only down to 5 mph. Maybe someone here will post it, I just searched the archive and can't find it. Early on sailors navigated by the stars at night and the North star became the symbol for finding ones way home. Once you know where the Northstar is you can point your ship in the right direction to get home. So the star became a symbol for finding ones way home or more symbolically even finding ones path in life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gc_caddy Posted September 1, 2004 Report Share Posted September 1, 2004 Alright the other side took me about 20 min....brakes feel a bit mushy...which wasn’t an issue with the old pads...but they these new ones feel smoother and there’s no feeling of rubber being rubbed against rubber I get from the pedal when coming to a complete stop After you've used the brakes a bit, they should firm up and feel better. Did you perform the "bedding" in process?. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimD Posted September 1, 2004 Report Share Posted September 1, 2004 Bedding procedure; read this http://www.stoptech.com/whitepapers/warped_rotors_myth.htm and pay attention to the "PREVENTION" section. Jim Drive your car. Use your cell phone. CHOOSE ONE ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adallak Posted September 1, 2004 Report Share Posted September 1, 2004 how do old pads look like? are the evenly worn? the pattern may say a lot about your piston (sorry, I mean caliper ) and bolts/pins/bushings. The saddest thing in life is wasted talent Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scotty Posted September 1, 2004 Report Share Posted September 1, 2004 Bedding procedure; read this http://www.stoptech.com/whitepapers/warped_rotors_myth.htm and pay attention to the "PREVENTION" section. Great Jim that is exactly what I was looking for! Mike Early on sailors navigated by the stars at night and the North star became the symbol for finding ones way home. Once you know where the Northstar is you can point your ship in the right direction to get home. So the star became a symbol for finding ones way home or more symbolically even finding ones path in life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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