BodybyFisher Posted July 7, 2016 Report Share Posted July 7, 2016 We have already given you a ton of advice that you either don't understand or are ignoring. FIRST, ARE THERE ANY CODES SET?, YOU CAN EXTRACT THEM FROM THE DASH, EXTRACT THEM NOW! ASK IF YOU DO NOT KNOW HOW!!! 1) Plan to spend $150, if your system is empty. 2) Find a competent AC shop 3) Ask them evacuate the system and recapture the freon and find out how much freon is in it currently. Make a note of how much freon is in your system. You need to do this as you have NO idea how much freon is in your system and it COULD be overcharged. 4) You will determine the systems integrity if they can successfully suck a strong vacuum (evacuation) showing there aren't any major leaks. Evacuation also extracts moisture from the closed system. 5) Once the vacuum is drawn, they can then add 2 pounds of the appropriate freon, an oil charge and dye. If there ends up being a leak, the dye will help you find it. This is something a good shop should know how to do. No friends, relatives, pep boys, small cans, gauges that look like tire gauges. Take it to an ac shop and say, PLEASE EVACUATE AND RECHARGE MY SYSTEM, ADD A LITTLE OIL AND DYE!, HAND THEM MONEY AND DRIVE IT. THIS IS THE ONLY WAY TO CHARGE AN AC SYSTEM. IF the system has a big leak it will become obvious because they won't be able to evacuate it. The gap on the clutch looks fine, the video shows the clutch engaged with no slippage or squeeling. PLEASE READ AND RESPOND. POST THE CODES FROM THE DASH NOW. GO OUT AND EXTRACT CODES IT WILL TAKE YOU 10 MINUTES, IF THERE IS SOMETHING WRONG WITH THE AC IT WILL SET A CODE. Pre-1995 - DTC codes OBD1 >> 1996 and newer - DTC codes OBD2 >> https://www.obd-codes.com/trouble_codes/gm/obd_codes.htm How to check for codes Caddyinfo How To Technical Archive >> http://www.caddyinfo.com/wordpress/cadillac-how-to-faq/ Cadillac History & Specifications Year by Year http://www.motorera.com/cadillac/index.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seville slider Posted July 7, 2016 Author Report Share Posted July 7, 2016 Sorry sir if I seem a little out of bounds but I posted thAt the were no codes that had to do with the Ac system but I'll give you all the ones that poped up most were history but none involving the Ac I check again sir and make sire I write down every one . So that old compressor of mine might be still pumping but it had no freon I'm such a idiot Ima get it vacuumed and charge and go from there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BodybyFisher Posted July 7, 2016 Report Share Posted July 7, 2016 You are not an idiot at all. Our communication with you here has been difficult and frustrating. This could be related to a bad actuator in the hvac unit itself so post codes. Run the engine, turn on the AC and after a few minutes feel the pipes by the accumulator drier, are they cold? So, now that I hear that you have NO AC codes that tells us that the reason for your lack of cool air is NOT related to low freon, or a code would be set for it. But, it could be related to overcharging it, that is why it needs to be evacuated to form a starting point! We rarely see bad compressors, hub bearings yes. You said it was cooling then it stopped, then you added a can of freon, that action might have been wrong. A bad actuator could have caused warm air. Write down every code and post. Sorry for sounding terse in my prior post, but at some point FOCUS must happen. Pre-1995 - DTC codes OBD1 >> 1996 and newer - DTC codes OBD2 >> https://www.obd-codes.com/trouble_codes/gm/obd_codes.htm How to check for codes Caddyinfo How To Technical Archive >> http://www.caddyinfo.com/wordpress/cadillac-how-to-faq/ Cadillac History & Specifications Year by Year http://www.motorera.com/cadillac/index.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seville slider Posted July 8, 2016 Author Report Share Posted July 8, 2016 Ok cool no prob today was again hot and aggravating . I notice the compressor I now not coming on I'm at work it's difficult to type I guess I can give u all current . Abs c1241,ipc u1255 ,imp b1341 , b1343 , pcm 1617, rss c1712 , c1717, c1722, c1726, c1738, c1761 all current Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BodybyFisher Posted July 8, 2016 Report Share Posted July 8, 2016 Exactly as I suspected B1341 Air Mix Door Two Movement Fault B1343 Air Inlet Door Movement Fault Ill bet that if you feel the AC lines they are cold and your AC problem is related to the door problems you show as current above. Explain in detail, the compressor is not engaging? Turn it on, turn the temp to 60 and see if it comes on. Pre-1995 - DTC codes OBD1 >> 1996 and newer - DTC codes OBD2 >> https://www.obd-codes.com/trouble_codes/gm/obd_codes.htm How to check for codes Caddyinfo How To Technical Archive >> http://www.caddyinfo.com/wordpress/cadillac-how-to-faq/ Cadillac History & Specifications Year by Year http://www.motorera.com/cadillac/index.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BodybyFisher Posted July 8, 2016 Report Share Posted July 8, 2016 C1241 Variable Effort Steering Circuit Malfunction P1617 Engine Oil Level Switch Circuit C1712 LF Damper Actuator Open CKT C1717 RF Damper Actuator Open CKT C1722 LR Damper Actuator Open CKT C1726 RR Damper Actuator Short CKT to Ground C1738 Exhaust Solenoid Valve Short to GND C1761 RF Position Sensor Input Fault Pre-1995 - DTC codes OBD1 >> 1996 and newer - DTC codes OBD2 >> https://www.obd-codes.com/trouble_codes/gm/obd_codes.htm How to check for codes Caddyinfo How To Technical Archive >> http://www.caddyinfo.com/wordpress/cadillac-how-to-faq/ Cadillac History & Specifications Year by Year http://www.motorera.com/cadillac/index.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldCadTech Posted July 8, 2016 Report Share Posted July 8, 2016 I'm still betting it is overcharged too THERE IS ALWAYS ENOUGH TIME TO DO THE JOB RIGHT - THERE IS NEVER ENOUGH TIME TO DO THE JOB AGAIN !!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BodybyFisher Posted July 8, 2016 Report Share Posted July 8, 2016 3 minutes ago, OldCadTech said: I'm still betting it is overcharged too Yep, they went in the wrong direction when they got the warm air and assumed it was related to freon when it was actuator related. Always go to codes first. Pre-1995 - DTC codes OBD1 >> 1996 and newer - DTC codes OBD2 >> https://www.obd-codes.com/trouble_codes/gm/obd_codes.htm How to check for codes Caddyinfo How To Technical Archive >> http://www.caddyinfo.com/wordpress/cadillac-how-to-faq/ Cadillac History & Specifications Year by Year http://www.motorera.com/cadillac/index.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldCadTech Posted July 8, 2016 Report Share Posted July 8, 2016 Unless ---- they let freon out of it. THERE IS ALWAYS ENOUGH TIME TO DO THE JOB RIGHT - THERE IS NEVER ENOUGH TIME TO DO THE JOB AGAIN !!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BodybyFisher Posted July 8, 2016 Report Share Posted July 8, 2016 1 minute ago, OldCadTech said: Unless ---- they let freon out of it. You told them not to though Pre-1995 - DTC codes OBD1 >> 1996 and newer - DTC codes OBD2 >> https://www.obd-codes.com/trouble_codes/gm/obd_codes.htm How to check for codes Caddyinfo How To Technical Archive >> http://www.caddyinfo.com/wordpress/cadillac-how-to-faq/ Cadillac History & Specifications Year by Year http://www.motorera.com/cadillac/index.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seville slider Posted July 8, 2016 Author Report Share Posted July 8, 2016 The guy I work with that had the tools for a can kit put it on my line twisted it and not much came out sorry I know you said not to but I wasn't present he did it on his lunch break but just told me the fact the there wasn't much freon are pressure but the compressor was still coming on that was yesterday today Ipulled up at work early because I wanted to pull all the codes like you asked so I pulled them and reset them but then I check to see if there was any change in the way my Ac operated and I notice the compressor wasn't coming on I usually can hear it inside my car but nothing maybe it's cause he bleed my lines ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seville slider Posted July 8, 2016 Author Report Share Posted July 8, 2016 How much does the door thing cost to fix and is it a diy type Job man if I would have pulled the codes from day one 3 weeks ago this would not be going on again I feel very dumb right now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BodybyFisher Posted July 8, 2016 Report Share Posted July 8, 2016 Did you pull the codes before or after the guy letting freon out? Pre-1995 - DTC codes OBD1 >> 1996 and newer - DTC codes OBD2 >> https://www.obd-codes.com/trouble_codes/gm/obd_codes.htm How to check for codes Caddyinfo How To Technical Archive >> http://www.caddyinfo.com/wordpress/cadillac-how-to-faq/ Cadillac History & Specifications Year by Year http://www.motorera.com/cadillac/index.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seville slider Posted July 8, 2016 Author Report Share Posted July 8, 2016 After sir Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BodybyFisher Posted July 8, 2016 Report Share Posted July 8, 2016 Does the compressor still not start? Please do me a favor and check the codes again, I am interested in B codes related to the AC pressure. I am looking for these 2 codes, you can not arbitrarily let pressure out of an AC system willy nilly you may have low pressure now: B1347 Very Low A/C Refrigerant Warning B1348 Very Low A/C Refrigerant Pressure Pre-1995 - DTC codes OBD1 >> 1996 and newer - DTC codes OBD2 >> https://www.obd-codes.com/trouble_codes/gm/obd_codes.htm How to check for codes Caddyinfo How To Technical Archive >> http://www.caddyinfo.com/wordpress/cadillac-how-to-faq/ Cadillac History & Specifications Year by Year http://www.motorera.com/cadillac/index.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seville slider Posted July 8, 2016 Author Report Share Posted July 8, 2016 Amp b1327 history,imp b1341,current b1343cutrent b1652 history Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BodybyFisher Posted July 8, 2016 Report Share Posted July 8, 2016 OK, new code since the last time, we need to research it to see what it impacts, maybe someone will stop by that knows about it B1327 Device Power Circuit Low Answer this question, Yes or No, DOES THE COMPRESSOR ENGAGE? You know that when its engaged the very front of the compressor spins, right? Answer this question, Yes or No, did your friend let Freon out of the system?, I think I read yes above, but please confirm. We need to figure out the B1327 code. If it engages, let it run a few minutes and feel the pipes near the accumulator/drier, are they COLD? Pre-1995 - DTC codes OBD1 >> 1996 and newer - DTC codes OBD2 >> https://www.obd-codes.com/trouble_codes/gm/obd_codes.htm How to check for codes Caddyinfo How To Technical Archive >> http://www.caddyinfo.com/wordpress/cadillac-how-to-faq/ Cadillac History & Specifications Year by Year http://www.motorera.com/cadillac/index.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seville slider Posted July 8, 2016 Author Report Share Posted July 8, 2016 Same codes the ones i typed first was all current soory if I confused u please look close amp b1327 is history and the compressor is not coming on since the day after the guy let the freon out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BodybyFisher Posted July 8, 2016 Report Share Posted July 8, 2016 Let us digest this. At this point I dont know why the compressor isnt starting. Check the plug at the compressor to make sure it is plugged in. You may need to jack the passenger side up,support it with a jack stand, take the tire off, take the inspection cover off and check the plug to be sure no one disconnected it Pre-1995 - DTC codes OBD1 >> 1996 and newer - DTC codes OBD2 >> https://www.obd-codes.com/trouble_codes/gm/obd_codes.htm How to check for codes Caddyinfo How To Technical Archive >> http://www.caddyinfo.com/wordpress/cadillac-how-to-faq/ Cadillac History & Specifications Year by Year http://www.motorera.com/cadillac/index.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seville slider Posted July 8, 2016 Author Report Share Posted July 8, 2016 No one has touched it at all Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seville slider Posted July 8, 2016 Author Report Share Posted July 8, 2016 I'm going to have a closer look in the am Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldCadTech Posted July 8, 2016 Report Share Posted July 8, 2016 B1327 is Battery Voltage low B1652 is Battery disconnect Both are history - looks like they disconnected the battery in an attempt to clear codes - I wouldn't worry about them. THERE IS ALWAYS ENOUGH TIME TO DO THE JOB RIGHT - THERE IS NEVER ENOUGH TIME TO DO THE JOB AGAIN !!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldCadTech Posted July 8, 2016 Report Share Posted July 8, 2016 The Blend and Mix door codes are still present. 1) Purge and charge A/C with a 134 charging station. 2) Diagnose Inlet and Mix door actuators. THERE IS ALWAYS ENOUGH TIME TO DO THE JOB RIGHT - THERE IS NEVER ENOUGH TIME TO DO THE JOB AGAIN !!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seville slider Posted July 8, 2016 Author Report Share Posted July 8, 2016 Remember I'm an idiot does that mean #1 vacuum the system this is a first I hear purge. And #2 can u get me info on how to diagnose the inlet door plz I'm sorry I can do all this at once in the am. Not at once but hope have the time frame so we're the inlet door and how do I get to it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldCadTech Posted July 8, 2016 Report Share Posted July 8, 2016 You're NOT an idiot, I simply gave the list in an order of completion.. COMPLETE #1 - Purge and charge is the same as evacuate and charge or Vacuum and recharge if you like that term better. Complete STEP 1 , then when you are done with that pull the codes again, write them down and post them here. THERE IS ALWAYS ENOUGH TIME TO DO THE JOB RIGHT - THERE IS NEVER ENOUGH TIME TO DO THE JOB AGAIN !!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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