CustomGTP Posted July 2, 2004 Report Share Posted July 2, 2004 Today I tore into my 94 STS motor I have at my shop a bit. I took off everything down to the head/cams. Everything on the top is off, intake/fuel rail/injectors, valve covers, starter, plugs/wires and all. My question to you guys is, how far should I take my "rebuild" with the motor only having about 80K on it. I want it to be refreshed, clean and ready to roll but not sure if a complete rebuild is nesessary. So I figured I would talk to the people that would know best. YOU GUYS! Ill post a few pics of what she looks like currently. Also I am not looking to spend more than say $500 on this, so I'm guessing that would include the following.... -Full gasket set -Starter -getting electric water pump so I know that was on the tip of your tougne! lol -................... -........... -............ THANX FOR THE HELP any other ideas? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CustomGTP Posted July 2, 2004 Author Report Share Posted July 2, 2004 http://memimage.cardomain.com/member_image...03_196_full.jpg http://memimage.cardomain.com/member_image...03_197_full.jpg http://memimage.cardomain.com/member_image...03_198_full.jpg http://memimage.cardomain.com/member_image...03_199_full.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigfoo Posted July 2, 2004 Report Share Posted July 2, 2004 Why did you take it apart in the first place? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ranger Posted July 2, 2004 Report Share Posted July 2, 2004 Yeah, why did you tear into an 80K motor? It's just getting broken in. If your going to remove the heads, plan on timeserting the block so you don't have to do it again in a year or so. Why an electric water pump? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Posted July 2, 2004 Report Share Posted July 2, 2004 Sounds like he is building it for a hot rod, so at 80K there is no way anyone is going to put that in anything without work. Am I right? That explains the electric WP, may be going in a FWD car. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K2K Posted July 2, 2004 Report Share Posted July 2, 2004 I wish they had grease that was clear and not so dirty lookin' :\ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CustomGTP Posted July 3, 2004 Author Report Share Posted July 3, 2004 Yeah guys Its going into a 1994 Pontiac Grand Prix. I'm using a 1987 Turbo Grand National rear end. Yes I'm converting it to a RWD car. I'm using a 99 Trans Am front suspension and a 2002 Camaro SS 6 speed trans. So the reason for the electric water pump is so that I can push the rear of the motor up as close to the firewall as possible (for better weight transfer), so I'm taking off the water jacket/water pump in the rear to get that extra 5-8 inches of clearance. Maybe ill just seal her up good as is and put her back together. Also. When I got it, the topend was all loose as if someone tore i down to inspect it and then just threw it back together for shipping. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigfoo Posted July 3, 2004 Report Share Posted July 3, 2004 Man that's a BIG job.. How are you fitting the transmission into the car? Not to mention the rear end. That thing is going to FLY in a grand prix with a manual tranny. You MUST take pics :> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wontgoslo Posted July 3, 2004 Report Share Posted July 3, 2004 why do all that work ON A 94 GP,when you could do something else with the trans am,camaro,or the grand national.with better results Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CustomGTP Posted July 4, 2004 Author Report Share Posted July 4, 2004 The reason I am doing it this way, is because ANYONE can open up a magazine or shop online and have bolt on parts shipped to their house. Then be faster or whatever than my project. I consider this a CUSTOM project and there will only be ONE of this breed. Not just anyone can order parts and do what I'm doing. I consider those cars to be very common and no fun. Whats the fun of having a car that everyone else has, NONE. Hope that explains my madness lol I will take plenty of pictures!! DONT WORRY ITS FULLY DOCUMENTED! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phillydude Posted July 6, 2004 Report Share Posted July 6, 2004 The reason I am doing it this way, is because ANYONE can open up a magazine or shop online and have bolt on parts shipped to their house. Then be faster or whatever than my project. I consider this a CUSTOM project and there will only be ONE of this breed. Not just anyone can order parts and do what I'm doing. I consider those cars to be very common and no fun. Whats the fun of having a car that everyone else has, NONE. Hope that explains my madness lol I will take plenty of pictures!! DONT WORRY ITS FULLY DOCUMENTED! God bless you, my friend, for echoing my sentiments of many years of "projects." I used to hear the same thing all the time in the Harley world when I would build a custom bike. People would always say "it's just so different... why are you putting all that money and effort into THAT bike... when you could do this or that with parts from a catalog?" And I would patiently explain the same basic ideas that you put forth: 1) Because it will be a one-of-a-kind item. 2) Because any idiot with a credit card and a reasonably knowledgable parts guy can build an "off-the-shelf" custom. 3) Because without people pushing the envelope of what can be accomplished, we'd never know what the limits really are. And there are no limits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CustomGTP Posted July 6, 2004 Author Report Share Posted July 6, 2004 THANK YOU PHILLYDUDE!!!!!! You understand Limits ended with my plasma cutter and sawzall!! HAHA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JasonA Posted July 6, 2004 Report Share Posted July 6, 2004 Labors of love are never rational. Can't wait to see your Grand Prix when you're done with it. Jason(2001 STS, White Diamond) "When you turn your car on...does it return the favor?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wontgoslo Posted July 6, 2004 Report Share Posted July 6, 2004 right ,i can see now! how about putting the engine in the trunk,and the spare under the hood Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JasonA Posted July 6, 2004 Report Share Posted July 6, 2004 right ,i can see now! how about putting the engine in the trunk,and the spare under the hood Well, 'cuz then you'd have a really fast VW Beetle, and that's already been done before! Jason(2001 STS, White Diamond) "When you turn your car on...does it return the favor?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wontgoslo Posted July 7, 2004 Report Share Posted July 7, 2004 chuckling Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CustomGTP Posted July 7, 2004 Author Report Share Posted July 7, 2004 HAHA thanx guys... LoL beetle... id rather put in a 02 style Impala.. Mmmmm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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