The Fred Posted August 21, 2006 Report Share Posted August 21, 2006 I think that if you wanted to open up a Cadillac shop all you would need is good regular mechanics armed with service manuals. MerryChristmas Be a Capitalist or work for one. Work for a Capitalist or be one. MerryChristmas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarrenJ Posted August 21, 2006 Report Share Posted August 21, 2006 I think that if you wanted to open up a Cadillac shop all you would need is good regular mechanics armed with service manuals. There's no substitute for experience. Good "regular" mechanics aren't enough. A thoroughly experienced Cadillac mechanic would be required. He's already opened a shop. You just need to find him. HINT: It will say "Cadillac Specialist" on his bussiness card. Regards, Warren There is no means of avoiding the final collapse of a boom brought about by credit expansion. The alternative is only whether the crisis should come sooner as the result of a voluntary abandonment of further credit expansion, or later as a final and total catastrophe of the currency system involved. - Ludwig von Mises Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenMachine Posted August 21, 2006 Report Share Posted August 21, 2006 I've figured that out, no you can't have the average mechanic work on a caddilac, you can have a smart mechanic work on one and one that isn't afraid to read and learn new things. But recently with my power seat problem, I've learned that even people who "specialize" in electronics will screw something up. See my MSM post for info on that, yikes. The Green's Machines 1998 Deville - high mileage, keeps on going, custom cat-back exhaust 2003 Seville - stock low mileage goodness! 2004 Grand Prix GTP CompG - Smaller supercharger pulley, Ported Exhaust Manifolds, Dyno tune, etc 1998 Firebird Formula - 408 LQ9 Stroker motor swap and all sorts of go fast stuff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarrenJ Posted August 21, 2006 Report Share Posted August 21, 2006 I work in a Hi-Tech facility where even the plant Design Engineer isn't fully aware of all our systems in detail. Individuals or groups specialize in various systems and troubleshooting is often a group effort. It's possible, but unlikely, that a single individual might be aware of all Cadillac systems across a number of model years. If he has a general awareness of systems, and a reasonable expectation of finding supplementary info in the service manuals, he won't be denied. Most often, that shop requires a second person skilled in automotive electronics. You won't likely find both in the same package. If you find a mechanic who is skilled in both mechanical and electrical aspects of vehicle servicing you have won the lottery. Alas, he likely works at an engineering desk in Detroit and has an unlisted phone number. Regards, Warren There is no means of avoiding the final collapse of a boom brought about by credit expansion. The alternative is only whether the crisis should come sooner as the result of a voluntary abandonment of further credit expansion, or later as a final and total catastrophe of the currency system involved. - Ludwig von Mises Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fred Posted August 21, 2006 Author Report Share Posted August 21, 2006 Ah, I see now. MerryChristmas Be a Capitalist or work for one. Work for a Capitalist or be one. MerryChristmas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimD Posted August 21, 2006 Report Share Posted August 21, 2006 I work in a Hi-Tech facility where even the plant Design Engineer isn't fully aware of all our systems in detail. Individuals or groups specialize in various systems and troubleshooting is often a group effort. It's possible, but unlikely, that a single individual might be aware of all Cadillac systems across a number of model years. If he has a general awareness of systems, and a reasonable expectation of finding supplementary info in the service manuals, he won't be denied. Most often, that shop requires a second person skilled in automotive electronics. You won't likely find both in the same package. If you find a mechanic who is skilled in both mechanical and electrical aspects of vehicle servicing you have won the lottery. Alas, he likely works at an engineering desk in Detroit and has an unlisted phone number. Regards, Warren Too true. And as more and more automobile systems are integrated with control modules, finding a concientious competent individual with the bare minimum of required automobile mechanical plus electronic skills is going to become even more difficult (and expensive). Aviation industry type specialization is one possible solution. My pet peave is the lack of information regarding the inside of the various modules. Far too many "black boxes" now reside in the landfill only because a standard off-the-shelf easily replaced component has failed. How would you feel about replacing a $0.10 resistor or a $2.00 voltage regulator rather than a $600 module? Perhaps there is a waiting-to-be-born cottage industry repairing "failed" modules. Jim Drive your car. Use your cell phone. CHOOSE ONE ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fred Posted August 21, 2006 Author Report Share Posted August 21, 2006 That's a good point, Even though this is a throwaway generation (the people AND retail items) there are still enough people out there willing to do a little homework and shop around for a better deal/used/rebuilt parts - especially considering the way everyone is maxed out right now. Broke people are broke and the middle class is broke even though they have alot of toys MerryChristmas Be a Capitalist or work for one. Work for a Capitalist or be one. MerryChristmas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarrenJ Posted August 21, 2006 Report Share Posted August 21, 2006 My pet peave is the lack of information regarding the inside of the various modules. Far too many "black boxes" now reside in the landfill only because a standard off-the-shelf easily replaced component has failed. How would you feel about replacing a $0.10 resistor or a $2.00 voltage regulator rather than a $600 module? Perhaps there is a waiting-to-be-born cottage industry repairing "failed" modules. Possibly up to a quarter of "bad" modules can be fixed by repairing defective solder joints at edge connectors, power resistors, and regulators. Regulator replacement is a close second. Go ahead, ask me how I know. I don't expect manufacturers see any profit motivation in publishing stats on their various modules. Regards, Warren There is no means of avoiding the final collapse of a boom brought about by credit expansion. The alternative is only whether the crisis should come sooner as the result of a voluntary abandonment of further credit expansion, or later as a final and total catastrophe of the currency system involved. - Ludwig von Mises Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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