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Well, yes and no.

The stories can be amusing, but keep in mind that is a hate site, and can give you an overall incorrect impression of Cadillac, their dealer network, and/or owners. Whenever you start from a small subset of owners (those who are extremely dissatisfied), you are going to get a very slanted opinion.

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It's a well known fact that dealers are weasels. I don't think he's out of line. The northstar does have problems with the case halves leaking, so no it's not perfect. I think he was done wrong, and that while GM cars don't have the most problems (that honor belongs to VW) they certainly could do better.

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There is tons of this garbage on the net, I can show you a similar page. But lets understand this we know nothing about the car's history, maintenance, the driver, the drivers habits. We don't know how the oil is changed, if it was running low in oil.

He blames his inability to test his AC and DRIVERS window on the cold weather. Does anyone besides me open their DRIVERS window in the winter? He blames the weather and NOT his BUSY schedule. What is his POINT of bringing up the coolant change?, that it cost $149.35 or that he THINKS it caused the catastophic damage to the engine? So again he blames his engine damage on the coolant change. He complains about having to pay $500 for front brakes, oh dear.... I am sure with his BUSY schedule he let the brakes go so long that he needed ROTORS also... so $500 normal there... I wonder what HIS time is worth... I am sure MORE than one CLIENT has choked on his fee...

The poor baby had to stand out in the heat for two hours in 100 degree heat (and his cell phone died, LOL).... He repeats a mechanics CONJECTURE that "The AAA-approved mechanic thought that one of the parts inside the engine probably had a hairline fracture in it when it was produced". And he states, "He said that one of the connecting rods in the highly-touted Northstar engine had failed internally and was thrown through the side of the engine block. It left a 2-inch hole in the side of my engine, and according to the mechanic caused a total loss because the block is cracked and all the parts inside (including the heads) were stressed."

What we don't know is if Mr Attorney did any modifications to his INTAKE system like a K&N or CAI and that he might of injested water and hydrolocked the engine....completely possible.. This is tiring Ill post more later...

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He must not be a very good lawyer or he would have had a better outcome. I feel for him, a little less than I would for anyone other than a laywer, ;):D but I would have handled it differently. I would have done a check on the cars first 28,000 miles. There are 2 sides to every story and usually the truth is somewhere in the middle.

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I purchased my '99 STS in 2002 from a private seller with about 30K miles on it. First thing I did was take it to my local Caddy dealer and have them go over it and fix anything they found wrong, all under the factory warranty. When I read that guys post on the other side, the first paragraph or two was enough because he said that his dealer wasn't too cooperative in getting warranty work done. I'd have left the dealer right then and complained to GM, found another dealer.

Even the mighty GM has a few dealers to avoid. It's a surprise that the super smart lawyer couldn't figure that out.

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He repeats a mechanics CONJECTURE that "The AAA-approved mechanic thought that one of the parts inside the engine probably had a hairline fracture in it when it was produced". And he states, "He said that one of the connecting rods in the highly-touted Northstar engine had failed internally and was thrown through the side of the engine block. It left a 2-inch hole in the side of my engine, and according to the mechanic caused a total loss because the block is cracked and all the parts inside (including the heads) were stressed."

This all seems very deja view-ish...

Didn't we have someone on this site about a 18 months ago claiming that his N* had micro rod cracks and had thrown a rod out the side of the block. Complete with a 2" hole... Eventually he posted pictures and after some discussion and knowledgeable questions from the Guru he admitted that the bottom end had been rebuilt by a mechanic who knew nothing about N*s and that one of rod bolts had been over/under tightened... I'm betting this is the same guy. His story is a little more interesting with the addition of AAA approved mechanic LOL! and the 100+ degree heat!... (I'm melting... I'm melting)

And while I have stayed at a AAA recommended hotels... I would not take my car to any old AAA recommended mechanic... AAA-approval is about as hard to get as it is to get your business in the yellow pages.

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He repeats a mechanics CONJECTURE that "The AAA-approved mechanic thought that one of the parts inside the engine probably had a hairline fracture in it when it was produced". And he states, "He said that one of the connecting rods in the highly-touted Northstar engine had failed internally and was thrown through the side of the engine block. It left a 2-inch hole in the side of my engine, and according to the mechanic caused a total loss because the block is cracked and all the parts inside (including the heads) were stressed."

This all seems very deja view-ish...

Didn't we have someone on this site about a 18 months ago claiming that his N* had micro rod cracks and had thrown a rod out the side of the block. Complete with a 2" hole... Eventually he posted pictures and after some discussion and knowledgeable questions from the Guru he admitted that the bottom end had been rebuilt by a mechanic who knew nothing about N*s and that one of rod bolts had been over/under tightened... I'm betting this is the same guy. His story is a little more interesting with the addition of AAA approved mechanic LOL! and the 100+ degree heat!... (I'm melting... I'm melting)

And while I have stayed at a AAA recommended hotels... I would not take my car to any old AAA recommended mechanic... AAA-approval is about as hard to get as it is to get your business in the yellow pages.

I couldnt agree with you anymore !

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It is similar to the story before - I think last time, it was a doctor with a CTS-V. I would love to hear the other side of the story...

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YES that was the doctor in Florida who removed the REV limiter.... and blew his engine...

Then there was the young guy that was sitting at a gas pump and put a ROD through the side of his engine, GM replaced the pistons and forgot to tighten the cap bolts...

Each one has a story

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YES that was the doctor in Florida who removed the REV limiter.... and blew his engine...

Then there was the young guy that was sitting at a gas pump and put a ROD through the side of his engine, GM replaced the pistons and forgot to tighten the cap bolts...

Each one has a story

wow THATS CRAZY !!!!!:o

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As anyone can tell by his post the guy is an a$$hole. In addition he thinks he is smarter than others and is therefore bound to be condensending and very irritating.

Who, if they had a choice, would help a person like that.

Sometimes you can F-up a free lunch and it seems "Mr. I am an atty." did just that.

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I think he is right in being upset. A engine, especially a Northstar is not cheap.Had you bought a cavilier and the engine blew you would still be upset,but this is a top of the line automobile.It is designed to tell you check oil level, check coolant level, how much oil life you have left.If the fuel pump relay fails on a Northstar it still runs because the fuel pump also can be energized through the oil pressure sending unit.To shut down the air conditioning if the engine is too hot.To go into camel mode to keep engine from overheating. To shift the trans if engine redlines even if you have it in first gear.So it was designed to be pretty much bulletproof and someone paid good money for that peace of mind, don't they deserve it?

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We do not know the facts, suppose he ingested water and hydro locked the engine, how do you feel then?

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We do not know the facts, suppose he ingested water and hydro locked the engine, how do you feel then?

Well, if "he" ingested water the only way the engine could have possibly hydro-locked in 100F desert is if he pissed in the intake. I seriously doubt that. :lol:

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Something hydro locked that engine. Again we don't know the details. Whether he ran through deep water, etc. Engines don't typically spontaneously blow like that. How many have we seen that happen to here?

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Something hydro locked that engine. Again we don't know the details. Whether he ran through deep water, etc. Engines don't typically spontaneously blow like that. How many have we seen that happen to here?

I've heard of 3 that have suddenly had catastrophic failures. It's not impossible. You know how the old saying goes: "Sh_t happens." I'm not willing to conclude that every catastrophic Northstar engine failure is going to have a logical explanation, whether as a result of hydro-lock, poor maintenance, etc. I doubt “Power of Attorney” was negligent. But then again, it's possible. However, his posts indicate he took the time to maintain the Eldorado. So, unless he did everything else except change the oil, it would seem there is a distinct possibility that this particular Northstar simply had a catastrophic failure, which is not his fault.

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We can conjecture all we want, the bottom line is we do not know the facts to even opine on this. Without the facts its a guess. Could the engine have self destructed, hell yea, the space shuttle is spread out over the southwest. But without the facts we are playing with ourselves. After seeing the other board band together and tell that doctor to remove all of the mods, restore the rev limiter and to demand that GM repair his blown CTS-V, the only thing that interests me are facts. An engine does not go 50,000 miles with a hairline crack in a rod.

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I don't know if a hairline crack can survive 50K miles; but then again, I suppose a hairline crack can develop at any time. An engine, however, can fail for many reasons. It's nothing new to hear that an engine threw a rod, and no doubt the Northstar is no exception.

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I think I remember....the same guy here maybe 6 or 12 months ago. With the same sad story on this site..

Anyway. If you look closely at the 'GM sucks' site. Very, very small site. Maybe 50 GM - posts tops. Couple of the posts are GM +.

Some engines can and do fail. Its business. But dont think it is only GM engines that fail....

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Logan, Onyx.....................I read that persons blown engine issue that was linked to another

forum.

Yes, it does sound like that troll who was here a year or so ago with the rods hanging out

the side of the block with his/her 50k mile Caddy.................geo

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