HOW DO I DISABLE DAYTIME RUNNING LIGHTS 96 SLS

[zr1sls1996]

GREETING'S ALL

DOE'S ANYONE HERE KNOW HOW TO DISABLE THE (DRL) DAYTIME RUNNING LIGHTS ON THE 1996 SEVILLE SLS ???

I WOULD LOVE TO SHOULD THEM OFF,LIGHTS ARE FOR NIGHT TIME .....LOL

THANKS ...

SS

[zr1sls1996]

I WANT TO SHUT THEM OFF DURING THE DAY ,AND CAN'T SEEM

TO FIND ANY INFO ON THIS CAR SO FAR.

ANYONE KNOW THE WAY TO DO THIS ???

THANKS

SS

[Ranger]

Isn't there a DRL fuse?

[Scotty]

There is a FOG/DRL relay in the RELAY center under the hood. I don't know what happens if you pull it, but try

[Bill K]

What have you tried so far?

[sonjaab]

Also check out http://www.lightsout.org

[67coupedeville]

Also check out http://www.lightsout.org

To me that is rediculous, I love my DRL and think they are an excellent safety feature.

Spence

[Regis]

Also check out http://www.lightsout.org

To me that is rediculous, I love my DRL and think they are an excellent safety feature.

Spence

I have to agree with you Spence. DRL are excellent safety features which are reflected by discounts from insurance companies. Aside from the safety aspect it is also a terrific way to get a beautiful Cadillac noticed even more so. DRL always grab my attention....whatever the make of the car. A favorable two birds with one stone situation.

[JasonA]

Aside from the safety aspect it is also a terrific way to get a beautiful Cadillac noticed even more so. DRL always grab my attention....whatever the make of the car. A favorable two birds with one stone situation.

I used to not like the DRLs on my '97, but I've grown to like them. I think they do add a touch of class and elegance to an already shined and chromed Cadillac!

FWIW, there is a DRL fuse under the hood, in the little box behind the intake tubing. Mine does NOT have a DRL fuse installed, and I didn't remove it either, I promise! That must not be the only DRL controller, because mine work regardless. I've never tried putting a fuse in there to see what would happen.

[zr1sls1996]

Thanks all !

That link was very helpfull.

I haven't tried anything yet , but still reseaching , to be sure first.

Thanks folks !!!

SS

[zr1sls1996]

(Ranger)Isn't there a DRL fuse?

I'm not sure Ranger (SS)

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(Scotty)There is a FOG/DRL relay in the RELAY center under the hood. I don't know what happens if you pull it, but try .

(SS) Thanks Scotty I'll Try that !

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(Bill K ) What have you tried so far?

(SS) Nothing Yet !!

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(sonjaab) Also check out http://www.lightsout.org

(SS) Thanks a lot for the linkz Sonjaab !

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Love that black seville Bill K , Did the chrome wheels come factory ??

Thanks -sonjaab-Bill K -Scotty-Ranger-Spence & all.........!!!!

SS

[JasonA]

That website was pretty comical to read. What a bunch of hypocrites! They're making their biggest claim against DRLs by stating that there's no evidence that they're safer, arguing against numerous studies that they have no direct expertise with, and cite "millions" of people the world 'round against DRLs as somehow more legitimate than policy that's been around for decades by many countries!? Ha ha ha!!

The proponents of that site must live in flat land deserts, where no trees or sources of shade exist. Have they never driven ANYWHERE on a country two-lane road under a canopy of trees? They must never have realized how easy it is for a car (especially a darker colored one) to hide in the shadows. None of them must live in an urban environment where buildings and overpasses and tunnels cast shadows and obstruct views.

And their solution is for everyone to have their hands on the headlight switch at all times, and to pay enough attention to the ambient light situation and be ready to "responsibly illuminate" their vehicle as necessary, as a good driver would. Ha!

Not once have I been distracted or annoyed by ANY DRL out there that I've seen (HIDs or high beams another story though). And it'd take me a FEW hands to count the number of times I've been thankful someone else's car had DRLs, or I may not have seen them in a compromised situation.

[zr1sls1996]

Good Point.... jadcock.

I just wish everthing wasn't forced on us , I'm old school

when It comes to my property, I still bewlieve I should

have the option of some things .If I want them or not....why not a switch to turn them off just like the fog lamps ????

I always thought it looked stupid to be driving around

in Broad daylight with park lights on or fog lamps

when it's clear and 98 degress on a clear summer day !!

I mean what's that for ???...It's seem's as is to say look at me folks

I way too cool >LOL....

But the DRL I understand a little more it's a safety thing

but on these car's it's standard and not a option ,Right??

I think I would rather them be an option instead of standard.

Heck If they want to give me a standard item on my car ,Give me a moon roof ,or maybe side curtain air bag's....Sorry that's just my opinon !

SS

[zr1sls1996]

To GM and other's are allowing people to turn off the

passenger side air bag by the driver and his or her key !

Heck , what's that , safety is only inportant to the driver

and not a factor to his friends - sister-brother-mother-father...

or whom ever ??

But that's my opinon , and you know what they say about them !!LOL

SS

[zr1sls1996]

Even thou this is for the 1996-1999 Pontiac Bonneville I believe it's the same for my seville 1996 , because I have seen this little white box

stated in this qoute from the link given earlier,Interesting reading .

Here is the qoute from the link given on this post earlier if

anyone's interested........

Qoute from .......http://www.lightsout.org

"You must pull the electrical connection from the DRL resistor. The resistor is found on the driver's front side of the engine bay. First, find the large black box which contains the computer. Next, pull the black box to the left so you can see the horn easier. Once you find the black horn, look to your right you will see a small white box thats bolted to the frame of the car. There will be a electrical connection on the back of the white box snap if off and your done. Once the connector is out of the white box you no longer have drls. The head lights will still turn on so there is no need to worry".

SS

[Scotty]

Safety as an option, hmmm.. I agree, so when your car is deemed a not as safe as mine, you should pay more in insurance....

A car alarm decreases insurance by 15%! DRL makes you more visible to drivers pulling out in front of you, and that should moderate insurance as your vehicle is inherently safer. If it came with DRL, your state insurance company and state insurance should check that they operate properly...

Oh I know, I KNOW, there is a certain TYPE Of individual that REFUSES to have their FREEDOM infringed upon, like motorcycle drivers and the helmet argument.

The fact is, HOW IN THE HELL could a car be LESS visible WITH DLR? Why not have them? Why would you want to disable the DRL and make yourself LESS visible?

Yes years ago we didn't have seat belts either, you consider laws having to wear them being forced by THE MAN, and having your freedom to FLY through the windshield taken away?

How about child car seats and seatbelts laws, is it your right not to use one and put your child at risk?

How about CELL phone use while driving, I use it in NY I get a TICKET, using cell phones definately is a detraction.

How about TINTING YOUR WINDOWS, TOO DARK, TICKET, dark tints diminish visibility and put police at risk.

How about the BLACK BOX? That is coming to show that you were going 90 when you lost control! Speeding, insurance can refuse to pay and subrogate and take your house, savings, etc....to pay for the property damage or death YOU CAUSED... Freedom, where does it begin and end..

Safety inspections>>>>> you spin and lose control in the rain and you kill someone in an intersection.... the safety inspection shows you had bald tires... Insurance pays and SUES you.... I think safety inspections after an accident are good considing the tons of idiots out there that don't have a clue.

Technology is allowing us to control a lot of peoples actions, people that are risky should be dealt with property with higher premiums, restitution and jail terms.. It creates a way of leveling the playing field, safe cars and safe drivers have low premiums, risky drivers and risky cars have higher premiums.

I am hoping that insurance companies tap into the black boxes when they take on a driver to see the history of driving, 125 mile an hour 10 times in the last year, $7000 and assigned risk.... easy.... Freedom at work... You are free to speed, insurance companies are free to charge you for the added risk of your driving habits or refuse you.. Technology...

[navion]

To GM and other's are allowing people to turn off the

passenger side air bag by the driver and his or her key !

Heck , what's that , safety is only inportant to the driver

and not a factor to his friends - sister-brother-mother-father...

or whom ever ??

But that's my opinon , and you know what they say about them !!LOL

SS

The ability to turn off the pass airbag is for pickups with no back seat. This allows the owner to put a child car seat in the passenger seat without the danger that an airbag deployment will kill the child.

If I am not mistaken, there is a warning light that alerts the driver when the airbag is disabled.

Britt

[Bill K]

We are talking about DRL and a choice to turn them on or off.

Many cars dont even have them. Insurance rates are the same for those that have DRL & those that dont. Not like an alarm that may give you a discount for your theft coverage.

Our northern neighbors have mandatory DRL and we probably will some day also.

You still have to LOOK and drive safe.

Its a lot more dangerous speeding in an unsafe nonmaintaned car than someone who just doesnt have DRL.

Its a nice safty feature but with or without you still gotta use your head.

[Regis]

Insurance rates are the same for those that have DRL & those that dont.  Not like an alarm that may give you a discount for your theft coverage.

Not sure about your area Bill but where I live, when I was with state farm(about 2 years ago), I had a discount for having DRLs on my 94. Honestly I can't remember the exact percentage but it was on the list of discounts and it was at least 5%. I'm with allstate now but I'm not sure if I get a discount with them for DRL. With state farm I remember that I had to demonstrate that I had DRL and that they worked properly.

I know that some of you are thinking: "Hey wait a minute..... they didn't have DRL on the 94 models." And you would be correct. A slight 30 second "modification" and viola!... DRLs that I can enable and dissable at will.

[navion]

We are talking about DRL and a choice to turn them on or off.

Many cars dont even have them. Insurance rates are the same for those that have DRL & those that dont. Not like an alarm that may give you a discount for your theft coverage.

Our northern neighbors have mandatory DRL and we probably will some day also.

You still have to LOOK and drive safe.

Its a lot more dangerous speeding in an unsafe nonmaintaned car than someone who just doesnt have DRL.

Its a nice safty feature but with or without you still gotta use your head.

Hi Bill,

Yes I realize that this thread was started about DRL's & methods of disabling them. But I felt that I had to respond to SS's inflammatory statements about the switch for disabling the passenger airbag. There is a valid reason for that switch. That being the ability to disable the airbag when a child seat is used.

As far as DRL's are concerned, I think that they have a valid purpose. What I don't agree with are HIGH beam DRL's that some cars have. Oh sure, they have a voltage dropping feature that is designed to lessen the high beam intensity, but in my humble opinion some of them are still to darn bright.

And as long as we are on the subject, another of my pet peeves are motorcycle riders that think that having their HI beams on at all times, night & day, will get them noticed. I ride a motor cycle, and I refuse to keep the HI beam on during the daytime, because it really irritates oncoming drivers.

DRL's, like anything else, can and are being incorporated into new cars with little or no standards for brightness or beam coverage. Some vehicles have very well thought out systems while others are WAY too bright. If DRL's are here to stay, then there needs to be some standards set and adhered to. The practice of using a voltage dropping DRL control and the vehicles HI-beam bulbs is ludicrous.

Just my 2 cents worth.

Britt

[Scotty]

And yes this WAS about disabling them and I immediately gave possibilities on how to disable them...

Until the following was said and when I thought logically about DRLs purpose:

I just wish everthing wasn't forced on us ,

I'm old school when It comes to my property,

I think I would rather them be an option instead of standard

THIS WEAK ARGUMENT:

To GM and other's are allowing people to turn off the

passenger side air bag by the driver and his or her key !

Heck , what's that , safety is only inportant to the driver

and not a factor to his friends - sister-brother-mother-father...

or whom ever ??

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Read this

http://www.ibiblio.org/rdu/DRLs/studies.htm

[zr1sls1996]

Hell, cell phones are another thing ,I agree with that problem!

And as for

the dumb *smurf* that does'nt want to

wear a motocycle helmet

that's his *smurf*,

so-be-it ! Seatbelt's good Ideal ..&

lt's ,A good law I can't do without them.

And yes tinted window's are getting too dark that's a fact !

I agree with some of your statement's

But as far as these !@#$*&^ Insurance co" the so-called

discount they saywe are getting it's BULL_@#$% !!!!

And as far as safety goe's these DRL seem to have shown

more accidents then the dam things have prevented..

And I will never roll on my dam stomach for big brother

or anyone else .

In my opinon given enough years and we won't even be allowed to smoke in our own dam car's, yes it's coming ,you wait and see!

Motocycle rider's I'm sure they

are aware of the risk they're taking !

And most

all the safety device's are in my opinon decent,but

the black box, piss on that....I'll take that thing out as well

if possible....I'm sure the net will have info on that subject as well.

Freedom is to each his own I say , That is If it hasn't hurt anyone

and been proved as a fact concering the disconnection of DRL !

Heck this country was founded on each of us being individuals

and being able to go our own way....thank's to our founding father's

for having some dam BACKBONE ,if it wasn't for them

this would be another darn russia !!!

Freedom , WELL-WELL,... THERE'S A WORD THAT IS TRYING

TO DISAPEER ,or being changed into another word

that's worst and everyone's got an opinon of what that will be

when the Insurance Co's and big brother get's done breaking

it off in us all !!!!!!!

As for me , I will find info & a way to do what ever is in my

power to do to my own property , just as long as I live FREE !

I vote and no-one's taking my right's away , without prying them

from my cold hands !!!!!!

SS

[zr1sls1996]

Most the time I baby my car ,but yes every now and again

I will be one them that's you see in the rear view

doing every dam mph the old seville & camaro will do , which most he time

is high 11's in the old camaro and streeable..and dam if don't I love it !!

SS

[Scotty]

I am too tired to discuss this further

Listen if everyone was an upstanding citizen we could stick our head in the sand and that would be that..... How many aggressive speeders have you seen on the highway lately? How many nut cases weaving in and out? Those are the people we need to control before they kill someone you love. You think a speeder should have the same premium as a non-speeder? That is the point of monitoring driving behavior, weed those risky people out. You can not depend on the police to create and develop a record of every bad driver. Cars today are powerful and driven out of control they can be weapons making them and their drivers safer makes sense. Someone wants to drive hard fast and out of control, their premium should reflect it and when there is a serious accident or a death, they should be held responsible.... Freedom does not mean living recklessly or endangering others, if we can make cars safer why not? As a kid we never wore seat belts, I wonder how many people died needlessly?

Cars are much more advanced, air bags, back up warning devices, gear shift lock out until brake is pressed, traction control, LCD brake lights light faster to give the person behind more time to react, DRL, 3 point seat belts, crumble zones, ABS...etc

[Regis]

zr1sls1996

First of all driving is a privilege and not a right. Any improvements the auto manufacturers can make to keep the countless morons on the road from ending up in my back seat or me T-boning them because they run a red light etc is OK by me. DRLs help illuminate possible problems/threats and help reduce the percentage of accidents. If you'd stop waving your freedom flag for a minute perhaps you'd give yourself the opportunity to accept this "new and different" information instead of rubbing your toe into it.

Sure if driving were a right and not a privilege then I'd be the first one to cry foul at the auto manufacturers for making my car too safe. I don't believe in airbags but I understand why they are there. While I can account for my driving I can't say the same for you or others out there sharing the roads. While I may be a safe and an excellent driver, only a couple of yellow painted lines seperate me from the countless bad oncoming drivers out there. Not hard to then see the value of the airbag.