johnnydone Posted August 22, 2005 Report Share Posted August 22, 2005 my positive cable vbolt is tight but the cable is not tight enough there has to be something missing maybe a washer or a spacer any comments Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruce Nunnally Posted August 22, 2005 Report Share Posted August 22, 2005 The 1996 Seville had a service bulletin to add a washer to the positive post because the post bolt was too long for the battery. Perhaps there was a washer in your 97 setup that has gone astray along the way? Bruce 2023 Cadillac CT4-V Blackwing Follow me on: Twitter Instagram Youtube Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnydone Posted August 22, 2005 Author Report Share Posted August 22, 2005 that makes sense now to find the right washer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnydone Posted August 22, 2005 Author Report Share Posted August 22, 2005 thanks bruce but for the life of me i cannot find a copy of that service bulletin maybe there is a gm part #for that washer if ucan find that bulletin let me know Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scotty Posted August 22, 2005 Report Share Posted August 22, 2005 My 96 has a washer and a lead spacer or lug between the positive cables. I have heard that over time and with over tightening the soft lead compacts and lessens the pressure on the cables. I am hoping to replace my positive cables soon along with the lug. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnydone Posted August 22, 2005 Author Report Share Posted August 22, 2005 i dont hae a washer the lug is still there cadillac will sell me a new lug but i think a spacer or washer is all i really need new cables have been redisigned to fix this problem they are about 120 dollars and you might need another 68 dollar cable for your starter as a last resort i can make a washer out of a metal elec box by knocking out a slug and drilling a hole and grinding it to fit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jfreezn Posted August 22, 2005 Report Share Posted August 22, 2005 How about shortening the bolt about an 1/8 of an inch? It will pull out of the connector. Jim in Phoenix Jim in Phoenix Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed Fenwick Posted August 23, 2005 Report Share Posted August 23, 2005 Yes make the washer. Be sure that it is bright and clean. Check it often for corrosion build up though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logan Posted August 23, 2005 Report Share Posted August 23, 2005 I knew about the '96 ones. I think Bruce had this issue at one point...anyway...here is the TSB... LOOSE POSITIVE BATTERY CABLE #53-64-07A - (Feb 1, 1996) REVISION:02/14/96 THIS BULLETIN IS BEING REVISED TO CORRECT THE LABOR OPERATION TIME. PLEASE DISCARD CORPORATE BULLETIN NUMBER 53-64-07 (SECTION 6 - ENGINE). ********************************************************************* SUBJECT: LOOSE POSITIVE BATTERY CABLE, WILL NOT TIGHTEN PROPERLY (INSTALL WASHER) MODELS: 1996 CADILLAC CONCOURS, DEVILLE, ELDORADO, SEVILLE BUILT PRIOR TO MODELS VIN BREAKPOINT ====== ============== CONCOURS/DEVILLE TU242771 ELDORADO TU607345 SEVILLE TU812352 ********************************************************************* CONDITION: SOME OF THE ABOVE LISTED VEHICLES MAY EXHIBIT A LOOSE POSITIVE BATTERY CABLE (WILL NOT TIGHTEN PROPERLY) DURING PRE-DELIVERY INSPECTION. CAUSE: THE SECONDARY BATTERY CABLE RING TERMINAL IS TOO THIN TO ALLOW PROPER CLAMPING FORCE. CORRECTION: INSTALL WASHER, P/N 10139097 OR EQUIVALENT, IN BATTERY CABLE ASSEMBLY. USE A COPPER OR GALVANIZED PLATED 10MM (3/8 INCH) WASHER, 18MM (11/16 INCH) DIAMETER, MINIMUM OF .6MM (0.025 INCH) THICK. 1. DISCONNECT NEGATIVE BATTERY CABLE FROM BATTERY. 2. DISCONNECT POSITIVE BATTERY CABLES FROM BATTERY. 3. DISASSEMBLE POSITIVE BATTERY CABLES, INNER CABLE FROM OUTER CABLE. 4. REMOVE LEAD RING TERMINAL FROM INNER BATTERY CABLE HOUSING. 5. INSTALL WASHER, P/N 10139097 OR EQUIVALENT, INTO INNER BATTERY CABLE HOUSING CAVITY. USE A COPPER OR GALVANIZED PLATED 10MM (3/8 INCH) WASHER, 18MM (11/16 INCH) DIAMETER, MINIMUM OF .6MM (0.025 INCH) THICK. REFER TO FIGURE 1. 6. INSTALL LEAD RING TERMINAL INTO INNER BATTERY CABLE HOUSING. 7. REASSEMBLE POSITIVE BATTERY CABLES. 8. RECONNECT POSITIVE BATTERY CABLE TO BATTERY, TIGHTEN TO 18 N.M (13.5 LB FT). 9. RECONNECT NEGATIVE BATTERY CABLE TO BATTERY, TIGHTEN TO 18 N.M (13.5 LB FT). PARTS INFORMATION: PARTS ARE CURRENTLY AVAILABLE FROM GMSPO. WARRANTY INFORMATION: FOR VEHICLES REPAIRED UNDER WARRANTY, USE: LABOR OPERATION NUMBER: N0120 LABOR TIME: 0.2 HR. FIGURES: 01 ATTACHMENTS: 00 FIGURE 1: 1. INNER BATTERY CABLE 2. WASHER 3. LEAD RING TERMINAL 4. OUTER BATTERY CABLE 5. BATTERY CABLE TERMINAL BOLT 6. BATTERY CABLE TERMINAL COVER Logan Diagnostic LLC www.airbagcrash.com www.ledfix.com www.ledfix.com/yukontaillightrepair.html www.ledfix.com/ledreplacements.html www.ledfix.com/j42385toolrental.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnydone Posted August 23, 2005 Author Report Share Posted August 23, 2005 wow all this for a loose cable thanks to everyone i think scotty was right and the cheap fix has to be a washer im hoping to make it out of lead and end the problem Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scotty Posted August 23, 2005 Report Share Posted August 23, 2005 wow all this for a loose cable thanks to everyone i think scotty was right and the cheap fix has to be a washer im hoping to make it out of lead and end the problem Its not necessary for the washer to be made out of lead, my washer appears to be brass any washer that will fit the bolt and snug up the cable will do the job. You are just trying to take up the looseness, as someone else said, cutting the bolt would even work, but a washer is the easiest solution. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnydone Posted August 23, 2005 Author Report Share Posted August 23, 2005 put in washer cable tight car starts lets see if it lasts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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