Marika Posted August 6, 2005 Report Share Posted August 6, 2005 1992 was the first year that the Seville ended up with the new look that turns heads to this day. I read somewhere, and for the life of me I can't remember where, but I read that the same design house "Pininfarina" that does the Ferrari did the 1992 Seville. Anyone know for sure? If you really want to make people safe drivers again then simply remove all the safety features from cars. No more seat belts, ABS brakes, traction control, air bags or stability control. No more anything. You'll see how quickly people will slow down and once again learn to drive like "normal" humans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob D Posted August 6, 2005 Report Share Posted August 6, 2005 I'm pretty sure it was a designer at GM by the name of Larry Erikson. He was the principal (chief) dseigner on the 'breakthrough' 1992 Seville/El Dorado programs. '93 STS.. opened, dropped, wide...fast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marika Posted August 7, 2005 Author Report Share Posted August 7, 2005 I'm pretty sure it was a designer at GM by the name of Larry Erikson. He was the principal (chief) dseigner on the 'breakthrough' 1992 Seville/El Dorado programs. Erikson. Is that an Italian surname? If you really want to make people safe drivers again then simply remove all the safety features from cars. No more seat belts, ABS brakes, traction control, air bags or stability control. No more anything. You'll see how quickly people will slow down and once again learn to drive like "normal" humans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob D Posted August 7, 2005 Report Share Posted August 7, 2005 I'm pretty sure it was a designer at GM by the name of Larry Erikson. He was the principal (chief) dseigner on the 'breakthrough' 1992 Seville/El Dorado programs. Erikson. Is that an Italian surname? Si.. Or (more likely).."Yasure youbetcha".. '93 STS.. opened, dropped, wide...fast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TDK Posted August 7, 2005 Report Share Posted August 7, 2005 Marika, Were you thinking about the Allanté perhaps? I believe it may have been designed and built in Italy and the body shells flown over for assembly in the USA (in a 747 for that matter). Maybe some design features were inherited by the 92' Seville? Add power to leave problems behind. Most braking is just - poor planning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marika Posted August 7, 2005 Author Report Share Posted August 7, 2005 Marika, Were you thinking about the Allanté perhaps? I believe it may have been designed and built in Italy and the body shells flown over for assembly in the USA (in a 747 for that matter). Maybe some design features were inherited by the 92' Seville? Maybe, but I'm almost positive I read somewhere that somehow, Pininfarina was involved in the design of the 92 Seville. If you really want to make people safe drivers again then simply remove all the safety features from cars. No more seat belts, ABS brakes, traction control, air bags or stability control. No more anything. You'll see how quickly people will slow down and once again learn to drive like "normal" humans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scotty Posted August 7, 2005 Report Share Posted August 7, 2005 There is no mention of who designed the 92 at this site but see this site for the 86 Allante designer http://www.100megsfree4.com/cadillac/cad1980/cad87a.htm 1986 CADILLAC ALLANTÉ The ultra-luxury Allanté's body and interior was built by Pininfarina in Turin, Italy. The finished bodies were flown to GM's Detroit-Hamtramck assembly plant where the powerplant and suspension were installed. Each completed model was driven for 25 miles for an individual evaluation. The front-wheel drive Allanté was powered by a specially tuned version of Cadillac's 4.1-liter V-8. It used special magnesium rocker arm covers and an aluminum oil pan. The Allanté chassis was intended for use on a convertible. Its all-independent suspension consisting of front MacPherson struts and coil springs in conjunction with rear MacPherson struts and a composite transverse leaf spring provided skidpad readings of 0.82 g. Also found on the Allanté was a new Bosch II ABS and exclusive P225/60VR15 Eagle GT tires. Only two interior options were available for the Allanté: a choice of two leather colors and a cellular telephone. The Allanté interior was available in either burgundy or natural saddle leather. The Allanté seats were manufactured by Recaro and featured a 10-way memory system. The Allanté's exterior design, characterized by a wedge-shaped profile and a pronounced forward rake, was very aerodynamic with a drag coefficient of 0.34. General Manager Grettenberger remarked that "Allanté owners will find that even with the top down they will be able to carry on a conversation in normal tones." Sergio Pininfarina reported that working with Cadillac to produce the Allanté was "the realization of a life-long dream." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adallak Posted August 7, 2005 Report Share Posted August 7, 2005 I'm pretty sure it was a designer at GM by the name of Larry Erikson. He was the principal (chief) dseigner on the 'breakthrough' 1992 Seville/El Dorado programs. Erikson. Is that an Italian surname? Erikson sounds rather Scandinavian... Italians have great taste, by the way. 1992 body style Eldos and Sevilles are great looking car no matter who designed them. The saddest thing in life is wasted talent Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JasonA Posted August 7, 2005 Report Share Posted August 7, 2005 I'm not sure who actually designed it, but I remember reading on an Italian designer or auto maker (starts with a G, maybe Guigiaro or something similar) commented on how "fresh" the design was at the time, and still is in my opinion. There remains to be no other car on the road as distinctive as a 92-97 Seville in my opinion. For what it's worth, I found this: Meyer, Henry: Men of Cadillac; chief designer of 1992 Seville and Eldorado. At this site: http://www.car-nection.com/yann/Dbas_txt/Factm-p.htm I also found this, about Larry Erikson: http://media.ford.com/article_display.cfm?article_id=1782 Apparently he works for Ford now. Jason(2001 STS, White Diamond) "When you turn your car on...does it return the favor?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STS Scott Posted August 7, 2005 Report Share Posted August 7, 2005 Nope, Without question it was Chuck Jordan who penned the 1992 Seville. About a month ago I was at an event in Grosse Point, MI called "Eyes on Design". It is a show they have every year on the Edsel Ford mansion grounds that is a sort of 'celebation of car design'. Every year they have a feature designer who they honour... someone who was influential in the history of car design. This year Chuck Jordan got the nod, and they had a special display including all of the ACTUAL GM concept cars that he was responsible for. He came on board GM in the late fifties as a rookie stylist, and designed a very cool Buick dreamcar (the name slips my mind), which was among the cars on display in the tent. He was also responsible for the '57 GMC Pickups. They had on display the Cadillac concept car from the 80's... the Voyage I believe, which was neat to witness in person. Usually you only see old PR photos of these cars! lol Anyway, they had the VERY FIRST (!) 1992 Seville ever manufactured, as well as the very first Aurora, which he over saw also. All of the cars were GM cars brought out of storage just for the event. The Seville was a pearl white STS, with tan inside, that had probably 10 miles on the odo! It was absolutely perfect, as it sure doesn't get much wear and tear! I really dug the whole event, because I plan on becoming a designer myself. " ...'took my Cobra down t' the track, hitched to the back o' my Cadillac..." - Jan & Dean, 'hey little cobra' Scott Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STS Scott Posted August 7, 2005 Report Share Posted August 7, 2005 Here's a link about him and the event... http://www.cardesignnews.com/news/2003/030617eod-jordan/ " ...'took my Cobra down t' the track, hitched to the back o' my Cadillac..." - Jan & Dean, 'hey little cobra' Scott Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logan Posted August 8, 2005 Report Share Posted August 8, 2005 I dont think it was actually Churk Jordan whom directly penned the Seville. It was more 'under the direction of Chuck Jordan's design group' that came up with the Seville and '92 Bonneville. Its not '1' person that does all the design. Logan Diagnostic LLC www.airbagcrash.com www.ledfix.com www.ledfix.com/yukontaillightrepair.html www.ledfix.com/ledreplacements.html www.ledfix.com/j42385toolrental.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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