Rickster Posted March 17, 2005 Report Share Posted March 17, 2005 This is not intended to start a debate. I am about to drian my 01 STS and need input not debate. Dealer suggested the switch to green which I found strange because it would have cost half that of Dexcool. Thanks 2001 STS Mettalic Otter Grey, Black Leather, 213,000 kilometers - miles - ? Still running strong! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JasonA Posted March 17, 2005 Report Share Posted March 17, 2005 Dealers are usually unaware of the technical stuff behind the scenes. Did they offer a clue as to why they suggest you switch? My input would be, of course, to stay with the Dexcool. I assume that you have had good service from the Dexcool so far? I sure have. Guru should have fun with this one. Cheers, Jason(2001 STS, White Diamond) "When you turn your car on...does it return the favor?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scotty Posted March 17, 2005 Report Share Posted March 17, 2005 Personally I would stay with Dexcool, given that is does not have silicates its easier on your water pump seal. It is more expensive because it lasts longer and provides longer corrosion protection. You will be back to the dealer SOONER for coolant service and they make more money when they get you back in. Early on sailors navigated by the stars at night and the North star became the symbol for finding ones way home. Once you know where the Northstar is you can point your ship in the right direction to get home. So the star became a symbol for finding ones way home or more symbolically even finding ones path in life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davedog Posted March 17, 2005 Report Share Posted March 17, 2005 sorry for a dumb question, but what should be in my 1992 eldo (with the 4.9)??? I haven't changed the coolernt yet, but it looks orange to me? -dave Crystal Red Tintcoat Exterior | Shale/Brownstone Interior | 32k Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adallak Posted March 17, 2005 Report Share Posted March 17, 2005 sorry for a dumb question, but what should be in my 1992 eldo (with the 4.9)??? I haven't changed the coolernt yet, but it looks orange to me? -dave green The saddest thing in life is wasted talent Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davedog Posted March 17, 2005 Report Share Posted March 17, 2005 sorry for a dumb question, but what should be in my 1992 eldo (with the 4.9)??? I haven't changed the coolernt yet, but it looks orange to me? -dave green So what does that mean is in my system? Should I change it? (I have had NO cooling problems at all.) If so, what should I be putting in my car? Is Dexcool green or orange? Sorry, I've always been confused about the whole coolent thing in these cars. -dave Crystal Red Tintcoat Exterior | Shale/Brownstone Interior | 32k Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scotty Posted March 17, 2005 Report Share Posted March 17, 2005 Dave once green is in your system it 'infects' your cooling system with silicates you will not gain any benefits from changing to dexcool, and if you do, you will need to change it every two years anyway, a more expensive proposition with dexcool. As Guru once said, fresh green coolant has excellent corrosion prevention abilities, I would continue using green in your 4.9, Mike Don't forget the supplement Early on sailors navigated by the stars at night and the North star became the symbol for finding ones way home. Once you know where the Northstar is you can point your ship in the right direction to get home. So the star became a symbol for finding ones way home or more symbolically even finding ones path in life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davedog Posted March 17, 2005 Report Share Posted March 17, 2005 I would continue using green in your 4.9, Mike But mine is ORANGE?!?! So does that mean I need some "fresh green coolent" Thanks though Mike -dave P.S. what supplement to you reccomend? Crystal Red Tintcoat Exterior | Shale/Brownstone Interior | 32k Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adallak Posted March 17, 2005 Report Share Posted March 17, 2005 But mine is ORANGE?!?! Are you sure it is orange? When you add bars leaks to green preston it looks kind of rusty. The saddest thing in life is wasted talent Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scotty Posted March 17, 2005 Report Share Posted March 17, 2005 dexcool or non dexcool, you should stay with non dexcool regardless of color...lol The 4.9 takes the GM or Bars coolant supplement, see below Early on sailors navigated by the stars at night and the North star became the symbol for finding ones way home. Once you know where the Northstar is you can point your ship in the right direction to get home. So the star became a symbol for finding ones way home or more symbolically even finding ones path in life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davedog Posted March 17, 2005 Report Share Posted March 17, 2005 Thanks Mike, sorry for the stupid questions, I feel well informed now! -dave Crystal Red Tintcoat Exterior | Shale/Brownstone Interior | 32k Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davedog Posted March 17, 2005 Report Share Posted March 17, 2005 But mine is ORANGE?!?! Are you sure it is orange? When you add bars leaks to green preston it looks kind of rusty. RUSTY! THAT'S the word I was looking for Thanks adallak! -dave Crystal Red Tintcoat Exterior | Shale/Brownstone Interior | 32k Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OynxSTS Posted March 18, 2005 Report Share Posted March 18, 2005 This is not intended to start a debate. I am about to drian my 01 STS and need input not debate. Dealer suggested the switch to green which I found strange because it would have cost half that of Dexcool. Thanks Rick, Everything that I have read indicates that the Green and the Orange are not compatible, different techniques for corrosion mitigation, different pHs etc... If I were you I would keep the same coolant type and switch dealers. Easin' down the highway in a new Cadillac, I had a fine fox in front, I had three more in the back ZZTOP, I'm Bad I'm Nationwide Greg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scotty Posted March 18, 2005 Report Share Posted March 18, 2005 This is not intended to start a debate. I am about to drian my 01 STS and need input not debate. Dealer suggested the switch to green which I found strange because it would have cost half that of Dexcool. Thanks Rick, Everything that I have read indicates that the Green and the Orange are not compatible, different techniques for corrosion mitigation, different pHs etc... If I were you I would keep the same coolant type and switch dealers. Tell me if I am wrong but I have seen some NON-Dexcool be orange. Am I wrong or are some NON-Dexcool coolants green and some orange? Are they not compatible with each other? Early on sailors navigated by the stars at night and the North star became the symbol for finding ones way home. Once you know where the Northstar is you can point your ship in the right direction to get home. So the star became a symbol for finding ones way home or more symbolically even finding ones path in life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davedog Posted March 18, 2005 Report Share Posted March 18, 2005 DANG IT! Now I'm confsued again! Crystal Red Tintcoat Exterior | Shale/Brownstone Interior | 32k Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scotty Posted March 18, 2005 Report Share Posted March 18, 2005 Ditto, Guru or anyone, Help...... Early on sailors navigated by the stars at night and the North star became the symbol for finding ones way home. Once you know where the Northstar is you can point your ship in the right direction to get home. So the star became a symbol for finding ones way home or more symbolically even finding ones path in life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davedog Posted March 18, 2005 Report Share Posted March 18, 2005 we need a Guru spot light, ya know, like the one they use in batman, only with the cadillac logo.... Crystal Red Tintcoat Exterior | Shale/Brownstone Interior | 32k Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob D Posted March 18, 2005 Report Share Posted March 18, 2005 we need a Guru spot light, ya know, like the one they use in batman, only with the cadillac logo.... Good one.. '93 STS.. opened, dropped, wide...fast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scotty Posted March 18, 2005 Report Share Posted March 18, 2005 Early on sailors navigated by the stars at night and the North star became the symbol for finding ones way home. Once you know where the Northstar is you can point your ship in the right direction to get home. So the star became a symbol for finding ones way home or more symbolically even finding ones path in life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rickster Posted March 18, 2005 Author Report Share Posted March 18, 2005 Thanks for all the input and laugh's. I will stick with the dexcool. 2001 STS Mettalic Otter Grey, Black Leather, 213,000 kilometers - miles - ? Still running strong! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ranger Posted March 22, 2005 Report Share Posted March 22, 2005 You cannot ever eliminate the silicates that are plated inside the cooling system of an engine/cooling system run on the conventional green silicated coolant. It is fine to empty it and run DexCool....just that neither the DexCool nor the Prestong long life universal coolant would provide super long drain intervals. Guru, How long does it take (if you know) to plate the cooling system? If one mistakenly put green in a system that had Dex and removed it in a day or two would it be plated already? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davedog Posted March 22, 2005 Report Share Posted March 22, 2005 when I first got my 92 eldo is was a little low on coolent, I topped it off with the green stuff assuming that the stuff in it was just discolored or something. I have never needed to add coolent since, is this bad to have a mixture of different coolents? Crystal Red Tintcoat Exterior | Shale/Brownstone Interior | 32k Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regis Posted March 22, 2005 Report Share Posted March 22, 2005 Dave, just a suggestion. Since you don't know the entire history behind your coolant I would just drain it and refill with fresh 50/50 green coolant and distilled water. Let's face it, it's a relatively inexpensive proposition. I drain and refill every 2 years. Like I said it's relatively cheap and does so much. Depending on your climate you may not be working your cooling/heating system very hard to notice the effectiveness left in the coolant. I had my fiance's car done this past Fall and you would not have believed how bad the drained coolant looked and smelled. Up to that point her car put out plenty of heat and seemed to cool fine too but climate conditions at that time weren't severe. I asked her when the last time she had it drained and filled and she responded with "oh I'm suposed to do that?". Of course many of you can relate to my "oh boy..." response. "Burns" rubber " I've never considered myself to be all that conservative, but it seems the more liberal some people get the more conservative I become. " Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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