rockfangd Posted May 10, 2013 Report Share Posted May 10, 2013 1996 Cadillac Deville. I put my car into gear and heard a snap in the steering column area and it hit me in the leg. It is a spring from somewhere. If it werent broke it would measure about 1" total. Everything seems to be working normally but when it snapped it hit pretty hard. I tried the tilt, the turn signals, the shifter> I dont know what it came off of and if I need to worry about it. I had used my parking brake but that seems to work fine also. Any ideas GM FAN FOREVER Nice, clean, luxury= fine automobile Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cadillac Jim Posted May 11, 2013 Report Share Posted May 11, 2013 It's probably one of the brake pedal return springs, or a spring on one of the brake switches. -- Click Here for CaddyInfo page on "How To" Read Your OBD Codes-- Click Here for my personal page to download my OBD code list as an Excel file, plus other Cadillac data -- See my CaddyInfo car blogs: 2011 CTS-V, 1997 ETC Yes, I was Jims_97_ETC before I changed cars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rockfangd Posted May 11, 2013 Author Report Share Posted May 11, 2013 are they hard to see? I figure it will be difficult to see where something like this would go if it wasnt there. Thanks GM FAN FOREVER Nice, clean, luxury= fine automobile Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cadillac Jim Posted May 12, 2013 Report Share Posted May 12, 2013 I don't know exactly how the brake and switch return springs are hooked up. Someone who has worked with the brake switches? -- Click Here for CaddyInfo page on "How To" Read Your OBD Codes-- Click Here for my personal page to download my OBD code list as an Excel file, plus other Cadillac data -- See my CaddyInfo car blogs: 2011 CTS-V, 1997 ETC Yes, I was Jims_97_ETC before I changed cars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rockfangd Posted May 12, 2013 Author Report Share Posted May 12, 2013 I can always look at my Seville, but there are slight changes between the 96 and 97 years. I could also check my local salvage yard GM FAN FOREVER Nice, clean, luxury= fine automobile Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeb Posted May 14, 2013 Report Share Posted May 14, 2013 He mentioned putting car in gear. Column shift? So spring may be for shift lever part which a Seville/eldo will not have? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rockfangd Posted May 14, 2013 Author Report Share Posted May 14, 2013 well here is the problem. 3 things happened when the spring broke. I pushed the brake pedal I shifted into gear and I released the parking brake It could have been from any one of those things lol. GM FAN FOREVER Nice, clean, luxury= fine automobile Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAC Posted May 15, 2013 Report Share Posted May 15, 2013 I agree with Jim. The broken part of the spring has an elongated hook that is connected to the parking brake arm. Just put you head under the dash area and look up at the parking break arm. You might actually see the broken part of the spring hanging. Given that you were hit in the leg by this spring indicates it's the parking brake spring. Also, you can try to manually move the parking brake arm. There should be tension on the arm. If the spring isn't replaced the arm will fall a bit and, from what I remember, the brake warning will light go on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barczy01 Posted May 17, 2013 Report Share Posted May 17, 2013 from what i recall that is the manual lever release spring for the pbrake Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rockfangd Posted May 18, 2013 Author Report Share Posted May 18, 2013 I was wondering the same thing. I have not had the time to look but I have tested it GM FAN FOREVER Nice, clean, luxury= fine automobile Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rockfangd Posted January 14, 2016 Author Report Share Posted January 14, 2016 Deja vu. The exact thing happened in my 97 Deville today. Whatever it is it never affected anything on my 96 Deville so I never really worried about it. I would like to figure out exactly where it goes lol. It is kind of hard to lay on your back looking under the dash for where a spring used to go. I may have to look at one at my local salvage yard. GM FAN FOREVER Nice, clean, luxury= fine automobile Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cadillac Jim Posted January 15, 2016 Report Share Posted January 15, 2016 The same thing happened with my 1997 ETC in about 2006. I assumed that it was one of the return springs on one of the brake switches. With no trouble symptoms, I never had a way to find it. -- Click Here for CaddyInfo page on "How To" Read Your OBD Codes-- Click Here for my personal page to download my OBD code list as an Excel file, plus other Cadillac data -- See my CaddyInfo car blogs: 2011 CTS-V, 1997 ETC Yes, I was Jims_97_ETC before I changed cars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rockfangd Posted January 15, 2016 Author Report Share Posted January 15, 2016 me neither. GM FAN FOREVER Nice, clean, luxury= fine automobile Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BodybyFisher Posted January 16, 2016 Report Share Posted January 16, 2016 I believe its from the parking brake assembly. Pre-1995 - DTC codes OBD1 >> 1996 and newer - DTC codes OBD2 >> https://www.obd-codes.com/trouble_codes/gm/obd_codes.htm How to check for codes Caddyinfo How To Technical Archive >> http://www.caddyinfo.com/wordpress/cadillac-how-to-faq/ Cadillac History & Specifications Year by Year http://www.motorera.com/cadillac/index.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BodybyFisher Posted January 17, 2016 Report Share Posted January 17, 2016 I looked at the manual, there are no springs on the 2 brake switches from what I can see. I also searched google for parking brake assbly photos and the manual release spring looks longer. I will have a look tomorrow to see if the one on Jims/my 97 ETC is missing Pre-1995 - DTC codes OBD1 >> 1996 and newer - DTC codes OBD2 >> https://www.obd-codes.com/trouble_codes/gm/obd_codes.htm How to check for codes Caddyinfo How To Technical Archive >> http://www.caddyinfo.com/wordpress/cadillac-how-to-faq/ Cadillac History & Specifications Year by Year http://www.motorera.com/cadillac/index.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BodybyFisher Posted January 17, 2016 Report Share Posted January 17, 2016 I am sorry for the multiple posting, could a moderator please delete the last 2 posts the app was acting odd and when I clicked it, I went to a blank page 3 times....I made the mistake of hitting back and posted multiple times. The app has been quirky on my android at times, not sure if its something going onnwith my phone. Thanks Pre-1995 - DTC codes OBD1 >> 1996 and newer - DTC codes OBD2 >> https://www.obd-codes.com/trouble_codes/gm/obd_codes.htm How to check for codes Caddyinfo How To Technical Archive >> http://www.caddyinfo.com/wordpress/cadillac-how-to-faq/ Cadillac History & Specifications Year by Year http://www.motorera.com/cadillac/index.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rockfangd Posted January 17, 2016 Author Report Share Posted January 17, 2016 I have not seen any spring missing on the parking brake assembly that matches this one. GM FAN FOREVER Nice, clean, luxury= fine automobile Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cadillac Jim Posted January 24, 2016 Report Share Posted January 24, 2016 Trust me, a spring very much like the photo is missing in the 1997 ETC that I sold BBF. I once bought a 1973 Caprice Estate wagon with the 454, late in the year to get a deal. It had an amazing collection of bolts under the front seat. A few of them were high-tension suspension bolts with SAE Grade 8 markings on the head. But there were no missing or loose bolts in that car. It was one of the best cars I ever had. Except that the Arab Oil Embargo hit two weeks after I took delivery, and it got 9 mpg. When the EPA ratings came out a year or so later, I looked up the car and yes, it was 9 city, 9 highway. -- Click Here for CaddyInfo page on "How To" Read Your OBD Codes-- Click Here for my personal page to download my OBD code list as an Excel file, plus other Cadillac data -- See my CaddyInfo car blogs: 2011 CTS-V, 1997 ETC Yes, I was Jims_97_ETC before I changed cars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rockfangd Posted January 24, 2016 Author Report Share Posted January 24, 2016 I think it is the timer spring. When the timer runs out it breaks and hits you in the foot. It is designed to see if you are paying attention to your car. It makes perfect sense, the automakers are out to get us, or at least injure us. LOL GM FAN FOREVER Nice, clean, luxury= fine automobile Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cadillac Jim Posted January 24, 2016 Report Share Posted January 24, 2016 Since mine had a break in the wire on one end that looked like a complete spring had another hook on it, like in the photo in the first post, I'm assuming that the spring actually has a use and is not a joke by someone in Hamtramck, MI. But since a number of people have mentioned this spring dropping on their foot but no one has noticed any change or symptom, I can't shake that notion entirely. My car had a center console, an emergency brake that was very rarely used (car was not driven much in hilly cities or country), and the spring dropped when I depressed the brake to start the car. I don't touch the accelerator to start the car, and it's too small to be a brake pedal return spring, so I was thinking of the brake switches, but could not see any without a trouble light and noticed no problem, so I let it go. I looked again on the weekend, and looked through the FSM, and never could find it, and without a problem to troubleshoot... It could be a return spring on one of the HVAC control doors or servos. I never looked at that. -- Click Here for CaddyInfo page on "How To" Read Your OBD Codes-- Click Here for my personal page to download my OBD code list as an Excel file, plus other Cadillac data -- See my CaddyInfo car blogs: 2011 CTS-V, 1997 ETC Yes, I was Jims_97_ETC before I changed cars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rockfangd Posted January 24, 2016 Author Report Share Posted January 24, 2016 We may never know... GM FAN FOREVER Nice, clean, luxury= fine automobile Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BodybyFisher Posted February 3, 2016 Report Share Posted February 3, 2016 Haha, timer spring. Its actually the henway. Pre-1995 - DTC codes OBD1 >> 1996 and newer - DTC codes OBD2 >> https://www.obd-codes.com/trouble_codes/gm/obd_codes.htm How to check for codes Caddyinfo How To Technical Archive >> http://www.caddyinfo.com/wordpress/cadillac-how-to-faq/ Cadillac History & Specifications Year by Year http://www.motorera.com/cadillac/index.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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