tekfx19 Posted November 2, 2004 Report Share Posted November 2, 2004 i saw this z28 at a light and it didnt have the square tips like the stock, and it seemed a bit louder than normal, so i thought i would provoke it to see how bad i would lose. We had two red lights, the first one i heard him floor it late and he couldnt catch me. Then the second light came and we took off at the same time. We were neck in neck, i pulled ahead a bit but he still never could get his nose passed mine till about 50mph then i let up (didnt want to attract attention). Now im not stupid, my mother owns a 94 z28 and i know how fast they go. i heard his engine loud but it just didnt seem to have as much kick as i expected. Also, i have a k&n panel filter with magnaflow 2.5 all the ways back with y pipe. Ever since i replaced my fuel pump about a month ago, I have noticed my car getting alot of its balls back. So my conclusion is, either he doesnt know how to drive, the car isnt workin right or maybe my car is indeed about as fast as a Z, by the by a g35 coupe couldnt pass me either from a stop. i didnt know those were that quick..... tell me what u guys think. and excuse the quick typing errors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magnum Rockwilder Posted November 2, 2004 Report Share Posted November 2, 2004 I'd say most likely it was one of two cases: It wasn't a Z28, but instead a 3.8L V6 with open exhaust. They sound raunchy with open pipes. Did you actually SEE a Z28 emblem? Maybe it was a ragged out 200k mile POS. I've seen a couple LT1 Z28's at the track running 14.5-15.0 and trapping as slow as 92mph. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tekfx19 Posted November 2, 2004 Author Report Share Posted November 2, 2004 not only did i see an emblem, it had like some performance company's name and phone number on the back. As far as it being a 3.8, i said that it didnt pass me, meaning it kept up. I dont think you could get that fast with a 3.8. I leave those in the dust. The exhaust was deep but it didnt sound as good as it should. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JasonA Posted November 2, 2004 Report Share Posted November 2, 2004 Your car must be a freak. G35s are sub 6 second cars, some of them. I don't think an air filter and mufflers did that to your car. I agree with Magnum -- it was most likely a newer V6 Camaro. Some of them are relatively quick. 0-60 in the lower 7 second range...which would coincide with your STS quite well. Jason(2001 STS, White Diamond) "When you turn your car on...does it return the favor?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magnum Rockwilder Posted November 2, 2004 Report Share Posted November 2, 2004 When I was 15 I had a '95 Camaro V6. With a K&N, Dual exhaust with no cat, weight reduction, and a good clutch, it ran 14.7 @ 91mph. So don't say they're all slow. I've seen a few of them at the local track running 14's/15's... about the same as the fastest Northstar Caddy I've seen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fubar0715 Posted November 2, 2004 Report Share Posted November 2, 2004 Speaking of the G35-I was conducting this experiment(all in the name of science mind you) as to how fast those really were....HE FREAKIN KILLED ME!!! I never could catch up....The guy that owns my old 5.0 mustang had the same problem with a G35 too-they really are pretty quick!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JasonA Posted November 2, 2004 Report Share Posted November 2, 2004 They are quick. Now that I look them up, it appears that an automatic G35 can be as slow as the high 6s to 60. But they all look to do low-to-mid 14 second 1/4 miles, which is at least as quick as a good-running stock Seville. Jason(2001 STS, White Diamond) "When you turn your car on...does it return the favor?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cadillac STS Posted November 2, 2004 Report Share Posted November 2, 2004 I ran a 350Z on the highway one early morning , about 3 am... riced out and all that and he couldn't catch me let alone pass...but we did run from a 85-ish MPH roll...went up to 130 where i had to shut it down...Pep boy tires That said i do believe the G35 has the same motor and HP numbers? an STS should be able to keep the 35 in check top end ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JasonA Posted November 2, 2004 Report Share Posted November 2, 2004 You must have some good mods on that thing! http://autos.msn.com/research/vip/spec_eng...imid=-1&src=vip A 6-speed manual Z is 0-60 in 5.2 seconds! Quarter mile in the low 14s, and traps at over 100 mph! The slowest Z shown, a convertible, should still outrun any stock STS. Those Dynomaxes must have given you 50 hp! Jason(2001 STS, White Diamond) "When you turn your car on...does it return the favor?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magnum Rockwilder Posted November 2, 2004 Report Share Posted November 2, 2004 The 350Z's put down 240hp and run low 14's at 100mph. The auto tranny 350Z's put down 220HP and run high 14's around 93mph. The G35 Coupes have a few less HP and weigh a little more, so they're a hair slower. The G35 Sedans are significantly slower. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JasonA Posted November 3, 2004 Report Share Posted November 3, 2004 The 350Z, with its VQ35DE engine, puts out about 290 hp (I think 287 is the actual number). I believe the G35s are similarly impressive, in the 260-270 hp neighborhood. This is a DOHC 3.5L V6 engine. The VQ35DE is also found in the Maxima, the Altima, the Quest, etc. A larger version, the VQ40DE, will be in the new Pathfinder and Frontier trucks, and it's scheduled to crank out about 280 hp and over 300 lb*ft of torque I think. Purdy good for a 6. Jason(2001 STS, White Diamond) "When you turn your car on...does it return the favor?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tekfx19 Posted November 3, 2004 Author Report Share Posted November 3, 2004 i dont know what to tell you guys, the race with the g35 coupe had 2 people in it, and we raced until about 45 50ish or so, i have bad luck with cops so i dont want to risk any faster. It seemed like it was slowly starting to pull ahead, but i figured that my power band is better up top than his is so i could imagine it being a good race until 137mph if i had the room. The camaro had the z28 insignia, it was a z28, and i know that they definately are faster than my car. The car seemed in reasonable condition, it wasnt polished up or anything and it was a stick. I think that car wasnt in top shape. That body style goes back to 1993 so who knows. But I do KNOW ONE THING, that particular z28 driver now has a new car to be afraid of... lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronson Posted November 3, 2004 Report Share Posted November 3, 2004 I can remember a time when I had a 95 Formula Firebird with a 5.7 with an automatic trans. One morning on my way to work was play cat and mouse with a 95 or 96 Deville and from about 30 to 80 mph I could not pass him. I had done some mods as well. Was I surprised, now I drive a STS! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottshoe Posted November 4, 2004 Report Share Posted November 4, 2004 The 3.8 5-speed camaro's and firebird's ran 15 flat in the quarter bone stock in their day. With a little help they can easily run mid-14's. Some sound very v-8 like with aftermarket exhaust... but mostly near idle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bc6t Posted November 4, 2004 Report Share Posted November 4, 2004 I have a '98 STS and love the car and find it pretty quick. But - let's get serious - the numbers don't lie - it is not as fast as a G35, Z28, Z350, etc. I also had a '90 Z28 5.7L that would easliy cream my '98 STS. Now if I could only save enough money for a new '05 STS I migtht be able to compete once again.... Tom R. 1998 Cadillac STS with 102K Miles Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
an01sts Posted November 4, 2004 Report Share Posted November 4, 2004 I don't know how my 01 STS does against a Z28. They have never taken the bait. I guess it would be embarrasing for a muscle car to be beaten by an ol' geezer 4dr, so the way you save face is to pretend it isn't worth your time to run a Caddy. I had over a half car lentht on a newer model Camaro from 0 to 45-50. (I back out because we were in a 35 zone.) The guy was shocked! I have, not beaten but, completly tore up some 5.0 manual Mustangs. I know that the reason I slaughterd them was because they severly underestimated me. More knowledgable Mustang owners, however, have beaten me in the 0 to whatever reasonalbe in-town speed. But they just beat me, working for every inch. At a 40-or-so roll, however, I have yet to have ran into a Mustang that can even come close. Other than a small handfull of Mustangs, the only thing that has beaten my car was this little Mercedies. Because it's just "another Japanese burner" I don't know what this German monster was. I told my daugher about the little monster, and she said that, earlier, one had squared off with her. She perceived the old guy to be a joke, so she didn't get a good launch. Once she saw that he was gone, she romped it, and managed to just beat him. Again, I cannot say about the Z-28. I know that my dauthter's 00 Ram Air Trans AM will wax them. She has a chip or something, knocking out low 12's or high 11's; even so, I think it does low 13's in street drees on asphalut. One problem could be a problem that has plauged people for years. People do these upgrades, and it slows the cars down. All they hear is noise, and they associate noise with speed. IN yeasteryear, the make-it-a-slug upgrade that I loved was the 2 4bbls on a stock engine with stock manifiolds. IN other wrods, the guy's hotrodding could have f/u the car, making it food for Japanese burners. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magnum Rockwilder Posted November 4, 2004 Report Share Posted November 4, 2004 Wow, such a knowledgeable post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blb Posted November 4, 2004 Report Share Posted November 4, 2004 As the owner of both a 1994 STS and a 2000 Camaro SS, I can tell you that if the driver of the LS1 powered Camaro has even half a clue how to drive, the STS will lose by a fairly wide margin. It seems that the newer STS's are even slower than the mid 90's versions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tekfx19 Posted November 5, 2004 Author Report Share Posted November 5, 2004 I agree with that. My dad just bought a 2000 sts in perfect condition and after i drove it i concluded that it was a bit slower. However I couldnt tell you if it was because i have the k&n panel and dynomax's..... By the way, theres a chance that i might be leaving the forum. My mother pre-ordered her C6 convertable and I might be inheriting her z28 its a 94 garage kept hardtop babied with 88,000 miles on it, and man does it purr... The C6 should be here end of December. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigfoo Posted November 5, 2004 Report Share Posted November 5, 2004 I think the 96 STS was the fastest one they made Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cupillac Posted November 5, 2004 Report Share Posted November 5, 2004 I think the 96 STS was the fastest one they made WOOT! "Cadillac, it's not a car, it's an obsession" -W.Kingdon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigfoo Posted November 5, 2004 Report Share Posted November 5, 2004 I'm not kidding heHEhe It's the lightest STS with the northstar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cadillac STS Posted November 5, 2004 Report Share Posted November 5, 2004 You must have some good mods on that thing! http://autos.msn.com/research/vip/spec_eng...imid=-1&src=vip A 6-speed manual Z is 0-60 in 5.2 seconds! Quarter mile in the low 14s, and traps at over 100 mph! The slowest Z shown, a convertible, should still outrun any stock STS. Those Dynomaxes must have given you 50 hp! I didnt race the 350 from a stop, we started from a 80ish roll...he was coming up behind me really quick and I punshed it...i pulled away and he never could catch me after Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sampsonsts Posted January 17, 2007 Report Share Posted January 17, 2007 i have the best of both worlds i hav a 93 sts stock except clear corners and strobes ans soon beong debadged and also have a 98 z28 camaro 6 speed with borla exhaust and slp intake Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abad95 Posted January 17, 2007 Report Share Posted January 17, 2007 I also have the K&N & 2.5 Magnaflows. The Z28 and Mustang GT is no match for the STS.If you take off the right way they will always be in your mirror.I have the '95 STS which was the fastest of the STS's. My dad had a '98 STS and it was much slower or seemed slower.(It was pretty new and never driven hard though). The 350 and the G35 is also no match for the STS.They are also made out of a lot of plastic.They're just nimble that's all. By the way: These are my type of posts. Florin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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