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I'd rather be going for a pair of Ferragamos, but the tires are getting a few months away from the point of no return.

I'm shopping for a new set of Vogue tires. I see that they're pretty difficult to find. Why I like them: I've owned high performance-rated Michelins & Yokohamas, neither have matched the handling of Vogues nor have worn out as quickly. Vogue tires are the only ones that have no "slipping" when simply accelerating on a damp road from a stoplight or slight curve. Speaking from also driving a 99 STS without Vogues.

Is there a comparable tire to Vogue (I don't have the gold/whitewall) and does anyone know of a reputable Vogue dealer with low prices?

Also, what is this thing with tire siping? Anyone have this done? My worst tire is the front driverside, for some reason it's worn extremely unevenly around the outside. Otherwise the rest are just excellent for having been on the car for 4 years, balanced & rotated once, possibly even they're the original tires? (Bought the car at only 19k mi.)

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I think tire siping is done for better wet/snow traction. They say it also helps with treadlife, but I'm not sure if that's true or not. What brand/model are your current tires? I like Michelin tires because (for one reason), they're usually heavily-siped. The Michelin Pilots on my Cadillac have enough sipes that I'd expect from a performance tire, and the Michelin LTX M/S tires on my truck seem to be nothing but sipes! ;)

Jason(2001 STS, White Diamond)

"When you turn your car on...does it return the favor?"

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I do not use Vogue tires but, you may be able to find them on e-bay or at your local Cadillac dealer or just go the their wed site vogue tyers.com

Also Cadio doc may be able to hook you up.

Peace ByStorm

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It really depends on what Michelin tire you are talking about. Some of the original equipment tires are pretty poor in wet and dry weather for that matter. When you get into the higher level higher performing Michelins they are quite outstanding. Make sure you compare them dollar to dollar, meaning don't compare a $140 Vogue to an $88 Michelin...OR for that matter make sure they have the same ratings both speed and the ABC ratings for Wear, Temp and Traction

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Most of us will only get to try a couple of dozen or so different tires on our cars in our lifetimes. Such a small sample is not very useful when someone asks for advice.

Have you taken a look at some of the tire specific forums and reviews? (e.g. tirerack.com).

Currently I run Toyo 800 Ultra tires on the '99 STS. Not the ultimate in performance, but incredible treadlife. I don't want to be paying top dollar for a tire with shorter life, but that's just me. My teenage roadburner years are far behind :)

On my wifes minivan, I just replaced those Toyo 800 Ultras because the fronts wore unevenly even after a couple of 4 wheel alignments. Even so, I got 75,000 miles out of them! If the wear had been more even, I think 100,000 miles was possible. The previous factory fitted Goodyears were worn out after 30,000 miles. Tire wear seems to be only loosely coupled to the treadwear rating published by the manufacturer. Same for the temperature and traction ratings. All a big scam. Check out the online reviews and go from there.

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High end tires come with "siping" of sorts already on them. It is just a cut to release water/slush from the tread area and makes "cheap" tires perform much better. I wouldn't spend the money unless you are in an area that gets lots of rain and/or snow. You can't even see the siping on the tire until a load is put on it, so don't let that change your decision. Siping works miracles on large block type off road tires and will help most others a good amount. I had some cheap tires for my extra car siped and have been really happy with them.

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We bought our beautiful rim/tire set for our Mercedes from Tirerack.com. We just got a catalog in the mail and I really liked their prices, even considering new rims. Didn't realize they had a forum too. I'll check that out and see if there are any former Vogue users who like their new brand.

I live in Seattle so a tire that's supreme on traction in the rain is the ONLY option, especially with all the hills around here. Treacherous! Now the only reason I'm tire shopping right now is because I started slipping much more often yet the tires are not worn (except that funky area on the front driver side). And instead of tossing my current set, if I can get by another winter with siping, I'd rather do that.

Keep up the great suggestions folks! :D

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