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What a terrific review that was Bruce, I hope you are excited about it as I am. I recall the guru saying that he liked to participate in this forum because he wanted to improve his writing, that writeup was terrific. I loved the last paragraph to end it. How long is the drive from Houston to home?

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I agree that article is inspiring. I wish he still participated here.

It is a ~260 mile drive, so should make a nice Saturday afternoon if all goes well. Fly in, paperwork, lunch, drive out. Nothing is done until everything is done of course, so until I get a car into the driveway there are still paperwork, or inspection, or other things that could come up.

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The car is coming from a Cadillac dealer and is certified pre-owned. The back-story was a couple came in and bought 2 Cadillac STS-Vs to drive. Later, the Wife traded hers for a Cadillac Escalade ESV, and I came along and bought it.

I was just on the verge where my self-talk was "If I can't get this STS-V, then I'll just look for CTS-V's and wait for the right one, and have to spend more". I am excited about some of the features that the STS-V has that the CTS-V family does not have yet, like HUD, lane change, blindspot, etc.

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Nice 260 mile shakedown trip! Don't forget to push the blue button and get 6 months free! Enjoy

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Gotta love Texans! :hatsoff:

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i see there is a pulley overdrive package for the cts-v-sc to make more boost. i wonder if there is a similar package for the sts-v?

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I think there are, but that they give much less real-world gain than the CTS-V. I am excited about keeping the STS-V under warranty, so I am less focused on modding it for a few years. Already a nice package out of the box.

The CTS-V responds heavily to inexpensive mods and becomes even more of a monster. 650 hp is simple, and more is available.

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Fantastic! Congrats Bruce, I'm sure you're gonna love the new ride! Coincidentily, I just saw one yesterday in our parking lot at work! It was an absolutely beautiful looking car! ;)

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Envy doesn't become me, but just . . . WOW!

A caution, though . . .

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Got the STS-V home; I'll do a roadtrip write-up for the blog but everything looked great in person, no hangups with anything, got in the V and drove home.

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Bruce, thats a beautiful car! I highly recommend a cold air intake system for the sound alone. Even my girlfriend likes the sound of the supercharger. I would guess my car went on a 25 pound diet when I changed from stock also. Mike

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Jim -- let me know when you want to get together. Today I suspect I will be cleaning up the 2005 CTS to get it ready to sell but would be happy to take a break.

Airmike -- which cold air intake did you select? I am keen to keep the V stock for now but I'm interested in what works well. Can you also post a pic of the system?

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Congratulations, Bruce! You've done your planning, and preparation, and it has paid off in spades! Your '08 STS-V Series is gorgeous! I'm anxious to learn more of your impressions of the new features, including the HUD and "blind zone" alert, and to see some interior pictures! Best wishes for safe and trouble-free travels!

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Bruce, I have the D 3 research -cold air 1.5 kit. The only complaint I have is, apparently they have raised the shift points and I reach the engine shut off before it shifts if I am not paying attention. I guess this happens since it revs so quickly now!:yupi3ti: Nice complaint.

I tried to attach a photo but got the message "file to big". If someone can tell me how to fix this I will put one on. D3 has a photo on their site-somewhat different from mine, since its for sts and mine is xlr probably. Mike

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Mike, open an account at photobucket.com and upload your photos there, then link them as photos here, Mike

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Here are pics at D3: http://www.d3cadillac.com/products/sts-v_intake of the stage 1 intake:

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and stage 2 intake:

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Stage 1 I don't like, its pulling underhood air in. However, the guru's writeup specifically addressed CAI stating the STS-V intake and exhaust has been optimized to NOT need CAI. (unless of course you want the WAHHHH noise)

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I think the prettiest WAHHHH noise, came from a 427 or 454 big block Chevy with the Quadrajet on it and the top part of the air cleaner turned upside down. :) :) :D

Next is my Northstar singing to me at 7000 RPM... :yupi3ti:

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I liked that WAAHHHH from all of those engines, my 429s, the 472, the 427 with 3 twos, and yes the Quadrajet had a great WAAHHH, when those secondaries snapped open. My parents had a 429 Caddy and before one of his trips I removed the stock air cleaner and put a small 4 bbl air filter on it, the type were you could see the filter all the way around. They did a 600 mile round trip to work on a Saturday night, the next morning my Dad said what he H did you do to the car?, it sounds like there was a monster under the hood, :lol:, he actually stopped to see what was "wrong". My Dad drove the car hard and regularly 'blew out the carbon" as he used to say. If they had cell phones on those days, I am sure I would have gotten a call...

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I liked that WAAHHHH from all of those engines, my 429s, the 472, the 427 with 3 twos, and yes the Quadrajet had a great WAAHHH, when those secondaries snapped open. My parents had a 429 Caddy and before one of his trips I removed the stock air cleaner and put a small 4 bbl air filter on it, the type were you could see the filter all the way around. They did a 600 mile round trip to work on a Saturday night, the next morning my Dad said what he H did you do to the car?, it sounds like there was a monster under the hood, :lol:, he actually stopped to see what was "wrong". My Dad drove the car hard and regularly 'blew out the carbon" as he used to say.

If they had cell phones on those days, I am sure I would have gotten a call...

Probably so... and the first words may not have been real polite... :D :D

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Actually, I think he liked it, but it was too loud on the local streets, :lol:

My Dad loved driving and he LOVED Texas for that reason where the lanes were WIDE and the next pit stop was "down the road a piece" which equated to about 80 miles when we went there in 1964 for the summer.

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Actually, I think he liked it, but it was too loud on the local streets, :lol:

My Dad loved driving and he LOVED Texas for that reason where the lanes were WIDE and the next pit stop was "down the road a piece" which equated to about 80 miles when we went there in 1964 for the summer.

And we have 80 MPH speed limits... :yupi3ti:

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