Bob D Posted October 14, 2004 Report Share Posted October 14, 2004 Heard it this morning on the radio.. A law was just passed down in LA (don't know if it's city or county..) that when your'e pulled over and cited for street racing, the vechicle will be impounded and destoyed. No ifs ands or buts... '93 STS.. opened, dropped, wide...fast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adallak Posted October 14, 2004 Report Share Posted October 14, 2004 Heard it this morning on the radio.. A law was passed down in LA (don't know if it's city or county..) that when your'e pulled over and cited for street racing, the vechicle will be impounded and destoyed. No ifs ands or buts... and drivers right foot will be cut off The saddest thing in life is wasted talent Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marika Posted October 14, 2004 Report Share Posted October 14, 2004 Heard it this morning on the radio.. A law was just passed down in LA (don't know if it's city or county..) that when your'e pulled over and cited for street racing, the vechicle will be impounded and destoyed. No ifs ands or buts... LOL!!!!!!! While I'm very much against street racing or racing on public highways and I always encourage people to "take it to the track", I think that's nothing short of outrageous. Fascists. If you really want to make people safe drivers again then simply remove all the safety features from cars. No more seat belts, ABS brakes, traction control, air bags or stability control. No more anything. You'll see how quickly people will slow down and once again learn to drive like "normal" humans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RonW Posted October 14, 2004 Report Share Posted October 14, 2004 They do that here in NY but its contracted to the local mafia and they keep the driver in the car while its in the crusher Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phillydude Posted October 14, 2004 Report Share Posted October 14, 2004 Here it is... straight from the LAPD website. I also found out it is illegal to WATCH a street race... this article confirms that as nine people were arrested for just being "innocent bystanders." LOS ANGELES POLICE DEPARTMENT PRESS RELEASE Wednesday, October 6, 2004 "Street Racer Task Force Makes Numerous Arrests" Los Angeles: Throughout the nation, illegal street racing has caused untimely deaths and serious injuries to participants and innocent bystanders. Enforcement efforts have resulted in hundreds of individuals being cited or arrested for vehicle code and municipal violations. Hundreds of vehicles have been impounded by law enforcement, but most are returned to the driver without significant impact. The violators have served minimal time, participated in community service, or paid a fine. In retrospect, the legal consequences have not impacted our young drivers enough to make them stop or realize the ramifications of their actions. In order to send a strong message to both the hard core street racer and our youth, the Los Angeles City Council enacted Los Angeles Municipal Code 41.70.2 (Nuisance Vehicles), to provide for the seizure and forfeiture of vehicles used in a motor vehicle speed contests and exhibition of speed. In short, the vehicles can be crushed if found to be a nuisance vehicle. Operations-Valley Bureau’s goal is to reduce traffic collisions and preserve lives. On October 6, 2004, at about 12:05 a.m., the Community Effort to Combat Auto Theft team (CECAT), Valley Traffic Division, Air Support Division, and Van Nuys Area Senior Lead Officers combined their efforts and held a street racer task force. They received a complaint of street racing in the 8000 block of Haskell Avenue. The team observed more than 35 vehicles drive into the area and set up for a street race. The team videotaped two Ford Mustangs stage in the middle of the street with the flagman standing between them. The race started as the spectators gathered and cheered. The team arrested both drivers, the flagman, and nine spectators (including five juveniles). The adults were booked at Van Nuys Area Police Station. The juveniles were released from custody to their parents and cited to court. A short video clip of the race is available for viewing upon request. Anyone with information regarding street racing in the San Fernando Valley is requested to call CECAT at 818-756-8138. On weekends and during off-hours, call the 24-hour toll free number at the Detective Information Desk, at 1-877-LAWFULL (1-877-529-3855). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hud Posted October 14, 2004 Report Share Posted October 14, 2004 I believe they crushed a 199? IROC-Z yesterday at Sun City. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cadillac STS Posted October 14, 2004 Report Share Posted October 14, 2004 I don't know, it feels wrong to take smeones propety and just trash it, on the other hand its also wrong to risk your life and others for a cheap thrill..street racing, so 90s Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theGman Posted October 14, 2004 Report Share Posted October 14, 2004 Those wipes should worry about the illegal aliens instead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
639398 Posted October 14, 2004 Report Share Posted October 14, 2004 NOT TOO LONG AGO ON INTERSTATE 5 AROUND THE TACOMA WASHINGTON AREA, A RED RICER CAR AND A RICER PICKUP TRUCK WERE DOING 100 MPH WHEN THE TRUCK LOST CONTROL AND CRASHED INTO TWO OTHER CARS ON THE FREEWAY. RIGHT BEHIND THEM IS A TANKER TRUCK THAT MANAGES TO STOP BUT, A TANDEM TRAILER TRUCK GOES SIDEWAYS TO KEEP FROM HITTING THE TANKER HEAD ON. BY THE TIME IT IS ALL OVER, 8 CARS AND TRUCKS ARE IN A PILE. THE RED RICED KEEPS ON GOING AND THE TWO PEOPLE IN THE RICER TRUCK BAIL OUT AND RUN. IF I OR YOU WERE ONE OF THOSE PEOPLE WHO`S LIFE WAS PUT IN DANGER BY THESE TWO PECKERWOODS, CRUSHING THEIR CAR WOULD BE OK BY ME Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marika Posted October 15, 2004 Report Share Posted October 15, 2004 What they should do with these drivers is put them into a "high risk" "cannot be conventionally insured" group. Place a $2,000 fine on their license and suspend the license until the fine is paid, and make certain that the insurance companies either refuse to insure them or insure them with massively high premiums. Also, adding them to a police "hot list" will ensure that if they do start driving again without the license or insurance, they are quickly caught and get prison time for the offense. Insurance companies should also require mandatory inspections of all vehicles they insure. There are enough insurance company offices around the country where a five minute inspection of a vehicle will quickly determine if the car has been "riced" and to what extent. New Jersey insurance companies do it all the time. When I purchased my Cadillac, I had to take my car to a designated inspection station who photographed the car, made note of any pre-existing damage (none) and also looked under the hood and under the car for modifications (none). Insurance companies will insure "modified" or "performance enhanced" vehicles but they will limit the insurance to use on a race track only as well as charge the owner of the vehicle a hefty premium for the coverage. High performance vehicles that are "street legal" are also insured, but for a hefty premium. People in New Jersey who end up with a DWI on their license also end up having to pay thousands of dollars in fines to the State as well as watch their insurance premiums skyrocket by easily $3,000 or more PER YEAR. Same should be for jerks who race on public streets and highways. If you really want to make people safe drivers again then simply remove all the safety features from cars. No more seat belts, ABS brakes, traction control, air bags or stability control. No more anything. You'll see how quickly people will slow down and once again learn to drive like "normal" humans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ranger Posted October 15, 2004 Report Share Posted October 15, 2004 Forget the high premiums. They'll just drive without. Nothing will deter them faster than being made to stand there and watch their cars being turned into Japanese cakes. Just to be sure the word gets out it should be televised. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marika Posted October 15, 2004 Report Share Posted October 15, 2004 Forget the high premiums. They'll just drive without. Nothing will deter them faster than being made to stand there and watch their cars being turned into Japanese cakes. Just to be sure the word gets out it should be televised. LOLOL!!!!!!!!! Hey, I like Japanese cakes!! You're giving Japanese cakes a bad name... But without a doubt, their licenses should be suspended and they be given a hefty fine, if nothing else. If you really want to make people safe drivers again then simply remove all the safety features from cars. No more seat belts, ABS brakes, traction control, air bags or stability control. No more anything. You'll see how quickly people will slow down and once again learn to drive like "normal" humans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ranger Posted October 15, 2004 Report Share Posted October 15, 2004 Marika, you have to admit, watching your $20,000 - $30,000 car get squashed is a pretty "hefty fine" and one you'll not soon forget. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cadillac STS Posted October 15, 2004 Report Share Posted October 15, 2004 Its unconstitutional, they abuse our rights by taking whats ours and destroying it. Just think about it for a second, even though you dont street race or ever seed for that matter. What if a brand new STS V8 just happened to come your way and he wants to punch it..you give in to the temptation...you get caught..BOOM! your car is now the property of the GOV!!! HOLLY SHIZERZ!!!!! not kool Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marika Posted October 15, 2004 Report Share Posted October 15, 2004 Marika, you have to admit, watching your $20,000 - $30,000 car get squashed is a pretty "hefty fine" and one you'll not soon forget. I still think that's kinda "exteme" but yes, it would upset me even though I don't race so it doesn't directly effect me. Edit: I also think that it won't stop the problem, it will just make these kids figure out different ways of still racing and not getting caught. It makes the stakes higher so the kids will either do more racing because of the challenge of not getting caught or, they'll just take it "underground" and be more stealth about it. The idea of taking their licenses AWAY and making them pay a hefty fine to get it back could be added to the whole mix. If you really want to make people safe drivers again then simply remove all the safety features from cars. No more seat belts, ABS brakes, traction control, air bags or stability control. No more anything. You'll see how quickly people will slow down and once again learn to drive like "normal" humans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronson Posted October 15, 2004 Report Share Posted October 15, 2004 Peckerwoods? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigfoo Posted October 15, 2004 Report Share Posted October 15, 2004 I think it will cause a lot more to run from the police, resulting in even more high speed and even more dangerous 'chases'. I know I would run if I was racing and i knew that was the law, and I'd be much more apt to drive 'crazier' to get away than I would racing someone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wake Posted October 15, 2004 Report Share Posted October 15, 2004 It's pretty stupid if you ask me... Rather than destroy the vehicles, sell them at auction and let someone else enjoy the ride... It's the same outcome to the driver, they lose their property... While I agree it's stupid to street race, I can see why kids do it... Just about every track in So. Cal has been shut down over the years by people who move into a neighborhood with a track then suddenly complain about the noise... When you take away the places to race cars the kids will take it to the streets, that's the reality of it... Several years ago I used to take my Trans Am, and later my Corvette to the street legal drags out at Pomona before they closed that track down to all amateur drag racers... The gate attendents told me that they turned away at least as many cars as they let in... To start racing at 8am, I used to have to show up at 5:30am and get in line... If I was late then forget about it, they reached capacity quickly... Jim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cadillac STS Posted October 15, 2004 Report Share Posted October 15, 2004 Well So Cali has one drag strip and thats Irwindale speedway...THE SYSTEM SUCKS...first off you have to be at least 18 to drag, and you you have to go through a long line most of the time...if they only re-opened the long beach strip that would be sweet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marika Posted October 15, 2004 Report Share Posted October 15, 2004 Well So Cali has one drag strip and thats Irwindale speedway...THE SYSTEM SUCKS...first off you have to be at least 18 to drag, and you you have to go through a long line most of the time...if they only re-opened the long beach strip that would be sweet <_> Complaining on this forum won't help. It's time to pick up the phone or your pen and either call or write your political representatives and make your views known. I think with this new law, the kids will still race, they'll just be more stealth about it. The law will make the kids behave more dangerously. If you really want to make people safe drivers again then simply remove all the safety features from cars. No more seat belts, ABS brakes, traction control, air bags or stability control. No more anything. You'll see how quickly people will slow down and once again learn to drive like "normal" humans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JasonA Posted October 15, 2004 Report Share Posted October 15, 2004 Its unconstitutional, they abuse our rights by taking whats ours and destroying it. Just think about it for a second, even though you dont street race or ever seed for that matter. What if a brand new STS V8 just happened to come your way and he wants to punch it..you give in to the temptation...you get caught..BOOM! your car is now the property of the GOV!!! This goes back to whether driving is a RIGHT or a PRIVILEDGE. The Constitution guarantees you free movement about the country, but doesn't say you can do it in a leather-shod Cadillac. Driving is a privilege, not a right. Just because you can't control yourself against a new STS doesn't mean you're not breaking the law. I agree that the property should be auctioned instead of destroyed. But I completely agree with seizure. We do way too much pandering in this country. People break the law in so many ways because there's always an "excuse" or a loophole they can go through -- or in the case of drag racing -- perhaps because the penalties aren't stiff enough. Think about pro football -- when someone makes a catch that was low to the ground, and he comes up with the ball in the air proclaiming he caught it...then the replay shows that it clearly bounced first? There's no penalty for that player, so he's gonna keep doing it...to see what he can get away with. If they made the penalty for falsifying a catch a 2 game suspension w/o pay, I guarantee that behavior would stop. I view street racing the same way. We humans are so short-sighted. We only look at the legal penalties, and not at the physical penalties (like property seizure or death). I agree that taking a license won't fix the problem. People drive without them all the time. A driver's license is intangible to most people. But if someone's RIDE is taken away, that's a tangible piece of property that someone will have to reacquire (or perhaps steal) in order to perpetrate the crime again. I think that'd make a big difference. Jason(2001 STS, White Diamond) "When you turn your car on...does it return the favor?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cad98 Posted October 17, 2004 Report Share Posted October 17, 2004 The only car they r destroying are the ones that have been modified beyond the worth of putting it back to orig. specs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marika Posted October 17, 2004 Report Share Posted October 17, 2004 There's an article in Today's Washington Post about kids who race and how they stay ahead of the cops. Here's one little quote from the article: His friend Whitney, 19, who works at Starbucks, said she watches for the excitement. "It's like an addiction," she said. "What got me was the rush of knowing we could get caught and watching something that's illegal. It's really cool." These kids think it's cool to do something illegal. http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/artic...-2004Oct16.html Nuf said. If you really want to make people safe drivers again then simply remove all the safety features from cars. No more seat belts, ABS brakes, traction control, air bags or stability control. No more anything. You'll see how quickly people will slow down and once again learn to drive like "normal" humans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fubar0715 Posted October 17, 2004 Report Share Posted October 17, 2004 Hey all, Also note that the ordinance states that "Nuisance Vehicles" would be impounded and destroyed...Here in Tampa they do the same thing with housing complexes that participate in drug or gang activities...These places are deemed a "Nuisance Dwelling" and the seized by the county and demolished....A nuisance dwelling would be one that has numorous complaints or in the case of the California Law, several convictions for street racing....I seriously doubt that a first offense would result in the loss of the vehicle! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JasonA Posted October 18, 2004 Report Share Posted October 18, 2004 Did anyone watch Dateline on Friday night? I don't know how accurate the show is, or if the interviewees are cohersed or anything, but they did a story on street racing, and they asked a mother who advocates what her son is doing (street racing). She said she lost another son years back in some skydiving accident or something and she said that he died doing what he liked doing. She went on to day that's all she could ask of her racing son -- for him to die doing what he loved doing. I can't believe she said that. She must not be thinking of the family in the minivan that he's going to careen into one day. What an ignorant statement. In addition to loss of license, loss of life is in intangible thing to these kids. They can't think ahead that far. That's why I continue to believe confiscation of property is absolutely reasonable in this case. It's done all the time with anything else. They can race all day long without a license -- but they can't race without a car. Jason(2001 STS, White Diamond) "When you turn your car on...does it return the favor?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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