CoupeDTS Posted November 20, 2010 Report Share Posted November 20, 2010 My passenger heated seat never worked in my 96 Caddy FWB and I could find NO information on any sites on how to fix it so I gave it a shot myself. First understand how they work. There is a switch on the seat that goes under the seat to a relay box that you can hear click when set on Hi or Low. The relay box gets power from the main power hookup under the seat. Power is then sent out to the Back rest heating element and the seat bottom element. The elements are made up of weaving wires that are underneath a glued down pad. Here is the relay box removed from the seat. I took this apart and found a little corosion on the contacts for the relay. This wasnt the problem why mine didnt work but it could be for other people. Also good maintenance I guess Since my relays were working the next thing to test is the elements themselves. Instead of tearing the seats apart you can test the elements with an ohm meter. The black hanging plug is the plug from the seat back element. It has 2 wires. Set your ohm meter to 200 and touch it to both leads. It should be around 1 ohm. Could be 1.1 or 1.5, the elements themselves say .95 ohms so anything around that means there is no break in it. If there is a break in the elements wire somewhere it will just read the infinate resistance. These are the 2 wires that come from the bottom element. 1 had 2 wires and 1 has 4 wires. The plug with 4 wires put your multimeter end to the red wire and to one of the other wires on the 2 wire plug to test. In my instance it was the bottom element that didnt have a reading. My seat back read 1.1. The bottom leather was pretty easy to release compared to the seat back. OF COURSE DO ALL THIS WITH THE SEAT OUTSIDE OF THE CAR! Examining the element with the leather off I found a burnt spot. Obviously this is where the break was. Instead of searching for a replacement I decided to try to repair it. Turns out the wire is stranded copper wire with a hard jacket around it. This means it can be soldered easily. In the picture you can see the wire I stripped. MAKE SURE WHEN STRIPPING THE WIRE TO NOT CUT ANY STRANDS OF THE WIRE! This will weaken the wire and cause another burnout. Slowly strip away the insulation. I used similar wire for the patch. Dont use anything smaller! Here you can see the patch. To keep the cover back down over the element I used some gorilla tape. Glue might work also. I wouldnt use duct tape on stuff that heats up. After the repair you can test the resistance again and see if it is fixed. Plug it all back in. Assemble the seat and enjoy heat again * 1966 Deville Convertible * 2007 Escalade ESV Black on Black * 1996 Fleetwood Brougham Black on Black V4P -Gone* 1983 Coupe Deville Street/Show Lowrider -Gone* 1970 Calais 4dr Hardtop GONE* 2000 Deville DTS - Silver with Black Leather and SE grille GONE* 1999 Seville STS - Pearl Red GONE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rockfangd Posted November 20, 2010 Report Share Posted November 20, 2010 Thank you very much, Many times Icould have used this info GM FAN FOREVER Nice, clean, luxury= fine automobile Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruce Nunnally Posted November 20, 2010 Report Share Posted November 20, 2010 Wow, congrats on the fix and thank you for the terrific write-up! Bruce 2023 Cadillac CT4-V Blackwing Follow me on: Twitter Instagram Youtube Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texas Jim Posted November 20, 2010 Report Share Posted November 20, 2010 Great write up... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoupeDTS Posted November 21, 2010 Author Report Share Posted November 21, 2010 It probably wont help everyone out, but it should help out alot. Id guess 90% of the wire breaks are in the bottom seats because of all movement from people sitting on them. Im curious though how the newer heated seats work. In my 2000 DTS and my wifes 05 Buick Rainier the seats get HOT where you need to turn them off. The fleetwoods just get warm. Id think they might use a different wire in the newer styles that may not be patchable. But it looks like they have improved things a little bit in the way that my wifes Rainier the seat bottom worked intermittently then went away but the seat back still works. So it looks like they dont shut the whole system down if one or the other breaks. I may dig into that buick seat one of these days. It should be comparable to newer cadillac models. * 1966 Deville Convertible * 2007 Escalade ESV Black on Black * 1996 Fleetwood Brougham Black on Black V4P -Gone* 1983 Coupe Deville Street/Show Lowrider -Gone* 1970 Calais 4dr Hardtop GONE* 2000 Deville DTS - Silver with Black Leather and SE grille GONE* 1999 Seville STS - Pearl Red GONE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lothos Posted November 22, 2010 Report Share Posted November 22, 2010 very nice writeup, thanks for sharing WARNING: I'm a total car newbie, don't be surprised if I ask a stupid question! Just trying to learn. Cheers! 5% discount code at RockAuto.com - click here for your discount! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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