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Please...NOT ALL ENGINES ARE THE SAME. The example above is an excellent practical justification of why you would want to add EOS and change the 15W40 Delvac in the muscle car at 3000 miles max and yet can run the Northstar to 12500 easily on conventional oil. You must treat each engine and situation differently and what applies to one does not retroactively apply to others. This is where Amsoil falls short in my book by proposing long change intervals in most everything if you use their oil. It just doesn't work that way. You can run the Amsoil to 12500 with no concerns whatsoever in the late model Northstar because even the oil life monitor tells you that for conventional oil off the shelf. Would I do that to the 502 in my 66 Chevelle...NO WAY. Amsoil says I can though. Wrong.

AMSOIL coined the term, "extended drain interval" and pioneered the industry in 1972 with the worlds first 100% synthetic API rated motor oil and gave it a 25,000 mile/1 year recommended/warranted drain interval. I have been using AMSOIL for over 25 years with drain intervals up to 35,000 miles with absolutely stellar results. With over 35 years of experience with extended drain synthetic oils, when AMSOIL says their synthetic oil will last XX miles, you can take that to the bank. If it didn't and engine damage occurred as a result, the written AMSOIL product warranty that covers every AMSOIL product, would kick in and warranty the engine. So when AMSOIL says you can use safe extended drain intervals with their synthetic motor oils, that is indeed backed up with an iron clad warranty. With my 1969 Yenko Camaro and it's L-72 427/450 horse engine, I didn't have to change the AMSOIL synthetic motor oil in that engine in over 7 years, as the oil analysis tests proved. One of my customers has a Mack over the road, heavy duty 18-wheeler and didn't have to change the AMSOIL in that engine for over 400,000 miles, as annual oil analysis validated. When the engine was eventually torn down for inspection, the original hone marks on the cylinder walls could be easily seen, there was virtually no sludge build up at all and an independent engine rater said the engine was in fantastic condition and could have gone many, many more miles. After 35 years + of safe extended drain intervals using AMSOIL synthetic motor oils, it's old hat. :)

All the Best,

Steve

25 year independent AMSOIL synthetic lubricants dealer

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The post from the AMSOIL distributor was unapproved as it was way off topic, 35000 mile oil change intervals are not related to this thread and I won't allow an AMSOIL distributor to refute what AL CLINE posted...

We will stick with our oil life monitors, thank you

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The post from the AMSOIL distributor was unapproved as it was way off topic, 35000 mile oil change intervals are not related to this thread and I won't allow an AMSOIL distributor to refute what AL CLINE posted...

We will stick with our oil life monitors, thank you

Yeah, 35,000 mile oil changes is a form of destructive testing, not recommended for everybody's daily driver. If it still runs, you declare victory, and tear it down to look and see what you've got.

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The post from the AMSOIL distributor was unapproved as it was way off topic, 35000 mile oil change intervals are not related to this thread and I won't allow an AMSOIL distributor to refute what AL CLINE posted...

We will stick with our oil life monitors, thank you

I beg your pardon sir? YOU brought up the topic stating that there is no way AMSOIL could be safely used in extended drain intervals. I responded to what YOU stated!

You have quite the NERVE!

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Yeah, 35,000 mile oil changes is a form of destructive testing, not recommended for everybody's daily driver. If it still runs, you declare vicotry, and tear it down to look and see what you've got.

No sir, that drain interval is warranted and I've been using such drain intervals for over 25 years.

Thank you.

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That info I posted was posted by the guru. He always had head to heads with Amsoil and bobistheoilguy.

If you want to start a thread, do it. Dont post in this thread, OR, reference what I posted from the GURU, we stand by that.

We will never run 35,000 mile oil change intervals, and stand by the OLM

Start your own thread, I will not stand for refuting statements from pyramid schemes or advertisers or snake oil salesmen

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No sir, it was you that mentioned this topic and I merely responded to it. You are being extremely heavy-handed. Did you vote for Obama too?

AMSOIL has been using safe extended drain intervals for over 35 years.

I am heavy handed when it comes to information that is posted from sources that AL CLINE thought was bogus. Keep my politics out of this, continue on this path and you will be banned just as AL CLINE was banned from BOBISTHEOIL guy and becaues of the trouble AMSOIL caused him. Post useful supportable information, start a supporter/affiliate account if you want but dont come into threads with MARKETING information.

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If your oil was so good GM would use it in a factory fill and recommend ridiculous oil change intervals. I posted a reference to the guru's words, they were not there to be commented on by an AMSOIL rep not after the history between AMSOIL and the guru. Its fact as far as I am concerned, not to be refuted.

What is it with AMSOIL and the OLM?, you guys CONSTANTLY have to go head to head with the OLM, and oil change intervals, like someone here just might change their oil at 35K miles. The issue here for me, is the guru's problems with amsoil, period, you could give the amsoil to me for FREE, and I would pour it down the drain, due to your/AMSOILS negative interaction with the guru.

I have always believed that when someone PUSHED something excessively, there is something you are not seeing behind the scenes, in this instance you are an amsoil dealer and you are NOT objective and have money as a motivator, so there is NO WAY you can be objective, so I am not interested in your opinion, especially when it comes to refuting information posted by a Northstar Powertrain Engineer

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If your oil was so good GM would use it in a factory fill and recommend ridiculous oil change intervals. I posted a reference to the guru's words, they were not there to be commented on by an AMSOIL rep not after the history between AMSOIL and the guru. Its fact as far as I am concerned, not to be refuted.

What is it with AMSOIL and the OLM?, you guys CONSTANTLY have to go head to head with the OLM, and oil change intervals, like someone here just might change their oil at 35K miles. The issue here for me, is the guru's problems with amsoil, period, you could give the amsoil to me for FREE, and I would pour it down the drain, due to your/AMSOILS negative interaction with the guru.

I have always believed that when someone PUSHED something excessively, there is something you are not seeing behind the scenes, in this instance you are an amsoil dealer and you are NOT objective and have money as a motivator, so there is NO WAY you can be objective, so I am not interested in your opinion, especially when it comes to refuting information posted by a Northstar Powertrain Engineer

That I can agree with 100 percent.

Thanks, Mike.

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I believe after reading about the OLM, and owning a Caddy that has one on it that it works and it works very well. So far my change interval seems to be approx 6,000 miles or so. Considering the fact that my engine has over 154k miles on it, I would consider that pushing it, but if the OLM says that's safe, then I'm going to trust that to be safe. There's no way in the world I would allow my engine to run 35k miles on the same oil, EVER.

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No sir, it was you that mentioned this topic and I merely responded to it. You are being extremely heavy-handed. Did you vote for Obama too?

AMSOIL has been using safe extended drain intervals for over 35 years.

I am heavy handed when it comes to information that is posted from sources that AL CLINE thought was bogus. Keep my politics out of this, continue on this path and you will be banned. Post useful supportable information, start a supporter/affiliate account if you want but dont come into threads with MARKETING information.

Sir, it's not, "marketing information", it's fact, that refuted your erroneous claims and apparently that is what you are having a tizzy about.

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I split this into this separate topic. I have unapproved posts that contained personal attacks. I don't think there is more to be enjoyed on this topic, so I have closed the thread.

PM me if you have questions. PM me flames to catch a ban.

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