WarrenJ Posted October 10, 2009 Report Share Posted October 10, 2009 Mr. Obama was sound asleep in the White House when the Norwegian Nobel Committee made the shock announcement. It said that he was being honoured for his “extraordinary efforts to strengthen international diplomacy and co-operation between peoples”. http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/worl...icle6868905.ece There is no means of avoiding the final collapse of a boom brought about by credit expansion. The alternative is only whether the crisis should come sooner as the result of a voluntary abandonment of further credit expansion, or later as a final and total catastrophe of the currency system involved. - Ludwig von Mises Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ranger Posted October 10, 2009 Report Share Posted October 10, 2009 Best part is that he was only in office for 12 days when he was nominated. I thought you actually had to do something to get it. What an absolute joke. Apparently the slobbering love affair continues. I thought BBF would have been all over this, but I suspect when he heard of this he corkscrewed right into the ceiling and is still trying to extract himself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texas Jim Posted October 10, 2009 Report Share Posted October 10, 2009 I think it is a shame. This is a huge farce that degrades the Nobel prize. I am so sorry to hear that this happened. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarrenJ Posted October 10, 2009 Author Report Share Posted October 10, 2009 Best part is that he was only in office for 12 days when he was nominated. I thought you actually had to do something to get it. What an absolute joke. Apparently the slobbering love affair continues. I thought BBF would have been all over this, but I suspect when he heard of this he corkscrewed right into the ceiling and is still trying to extract himself. I'm picturing BbF corkscrewed into his ceiling. WHAT A HOOT! Can somebody get me a photo? Regards, Warren There is no means of avoiding the final collapse of a boom brought about by credit expansion. The alternative is only whether the crisis should come sooner as the result of a voluntary abandonment of further credit expansion, or later as a final and total catastrophe of the currency system involved. - Ludwig von Mises Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OynxSTS Posted October 10, 2009 Report Share Posted October 10, 2009 I'm truly surprised at the number of Americans who are upset by this... I can tell you if my Prime Minister just won the Nobel Prize, even if I hadn't voted for him (I did) I would be on cloud nine... This is a way of recognizing not only the man, but the role that your whole country is playing in bringing peace to the world. I offer my congradulations to your President and your country. Do I think he deserved it? Probably not... But then neither did Kissinger, or Gore... PS he should have been up watching NASA bomb the moon... my son and I were... couldn't see nothing in my 10" back yard telescope... Easin' down the highway in a new Cadillac, I had a fine fox in front, I had three more in the back ZZTOP, I'm Bad I'm Nationwide Greg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarrenJ Posted October 10, 2009 Author Report Share Posted October 10, 2009 Do I think he deserved it? Probably not... But then neither did Kissinger, or Gore... ... or Carter, or His Arefatness Why do we even bother? There is no means of avoiding the final collapse of a boom brought about by credit expansion. The alternative is only whether the crisis should come sooner as the result of a voluntary abandonment of further credit expansion, or later as a final and total catastrophe of the currency system involved. - Ludwig von Mises Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarrenJ Posted October 10, 2009 Author Report Share Posted October 10, 2009 I'm truly surprised at the number of Americans who are upset by this... Some of us worry that a "cult of personality" is developing. Do you understand that? Regards, Warren There is no means of avoiding the final collapse of a boom brought about by credit expansion. The alternative is only whether the crisis should come sooner as the result of a voluntary abandonment of further credit expansion, or later as a final and total catastrophe of the currency system involved. - Ludwig von Mises Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BodybyFisher Posted October 10, 2009 Report Share Posted October 10, 2009 you guys are funny, I am becoming apathetic........ the crap is so blatant its just sickening Id be embarrised if I was BHO, Id refuse it and say no thanks, but dont count on it from this narcissitic wonder, I wouldnt wipe my azz with this 'award' Rip america, turn your back on allies, shake hands with dictators, and lower your defenses and get an award. I am hoping that there is a silent majority that is getting as pissed off as I am about the blatant crap Pre-1995 - DTC codes OBD1 >> 1996 and newer - DTC codes OBD2 >> https://www.obd-codes.com/trouble_codes/gm/obd_codes.htm How to check for codes Caddyinfo How To Technical Archive >> http://www.caddyinfo.com/wordpress/cadillac-how-to-faq/ Cadillac History & Specifications Year by Year http://www.motorera.com/cadillac/index.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarrenJ Posted October 10, 2009 Author Report Share Posted October 10, 2009 I'm truly surprised at the number of Americans who are upset by this... I can tell you if my Prime Minister just won the Nobel Prize, even if I hadn't voted for him (I did) I would be on cloud nine... This is a way of recognizing not only the man, but the role that your whole country is playing in bringing peace to the world. I offer my congradulations to your President and your country. Okay, I've calmed down a bit. Okay, Breathe deeply . . . gottit. Okay, I think . . . Oynx, I love you babe, but you didn't go through Carter and his double digit inflation. Screw him and his darn sweater. We're about to go through that again. My U.S. dollars have lost 13% of their purchasing power since March. On the bright side, this time around, I can invest in your currency. I can wait out the S.O.B.s in my country. I'm older and wiser now. I just converted my currency to Canadian and Australian dollars. I've purchased gold and silver. You don't have that worry. Your currency is sound. Mine is crap! Regards, Warren There is no means of avoiding the final collapse of a boom brought about by credit expansion. The alternative is only whether the crisis should come sooner as the result of a voluntary abandonment of further credit expansion, or later as a final and total catastrophe of the currency system involved. - Ludwig von Mises Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OynxSTS Posted October 10, 2009 Report Share Posted October 10, 2009 I'm truly surprised at the number of Americans who are upset by this... I can tell you if my Prime Minister just won the Nobel Prize, even if I hadn't voted for him (I did) I would be on cloud nine... This is a way of recognizing not only the man, but the role that your whole country is playing in bringing peace to the world. I offer my congradulations to your President and your country. Okay, I've calmed down a bit. Okay, Breathe deeply . . . gottit. Okay, I think . . . Oynx, I love you babe, but you didn't go through Carter and his double digit inflation. Screw him and his darn sweater. We're about to go through that again. My U.S. dollars have lost 13% of their purchasing power since March. On the bright side, this time around, I can invest in your currency. I can wait out the S.O.B.s in my country. I'm older and wiser now. I just converted my currency to Canadian and Australian dollars. I've purchased gold and silver. You don't have that worry. Your currency is sound. Mine is crap! Regards, Warren Actually Carter's double digit inflation, followed by Reagan's double digit interest rates.. they crossed the border freely without a passport. As did the Clinton economy boom and most of the Bush Collapse The Canadian Economy (and Dollar) is attached to the US economy like the tiny Caboose at the end of a HUGE train. The only leverage the Canadian dollar has is the price of oil... since we are the number one exporter of oil to America... if Oil goes up so does the Canadian Dollar... If your economy craters, and no one is driving and the price of oil collapses you will wish you hadn't bought Canadian Dollars... If you want I could also tell you how socialized health insurance works north of the boarder...from someone who actually lives with it... but you probably don't want to hear about that either. Easin' down the highway in a new Cadillac, I had a fine fox in front, I had three more in the back ZZTOP, I'm Bad I'm Nationwide Greg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BodybyFisher Posted October 10, 2009 Report Share Posted October 10, 2009 Carter was president before Reagan, http://www.huppi.com/kangaroo/L-carterreagan.htm I have heard that the Canadian health care is as bad as England's, is that not true? Long lines and long waits Pre-1995 - DTC codes OBD1 >> 1996 and newer - DTC codes OBD2 >> https://www.obd-codes.com/trouble_codes/gm/obd_codes.htm How to check for codes Caddyinfo How To Technical Archive >> http://www.caddyinfo.com/wordpress/cadillac-how-to-faq/ Cadillac History & Specifications Year by Year http://www.motorera.com/cadillac/index.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BodybyFisher Posted October 10, 2009 Report Share Posted October 10, 2009 An interesting take on the peace prize http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/10/the...eace_prize.html http://hotair.com/archives/2009/10/09/dnc-...ith-terrorists/ Pre-1995 - DTC codes OBD1 >> 1996 and newer - DTC codes OBD2 >> https://www.obd-codes.com/trouble_codes/gm/obd_codes.htm How to check for codes Caddyinfo How To Technical Archive >> http://www.caddyinfo.com/wordpress/cadillac-how-to-faq/ Cadillac History & Specifications Year by Year http://www.motorera.com/cadillac/index.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimD Posted October 10, 2009 Report Share Posted October 10, 2009 The Nobel Foundation appears determined to destroy its credibility. Apparently a nominee's accomplishments are no longer the measure of the person; rather the potential has become the yardstick. The world press - media is having some fun with the awarding of the Peace prize for 2009. Publicity aside, this US citizen is insulted that the Nobel Foundation would place a sitting US President in the same group as Yasser Arafat. Obama missed the perfect opportunity to demonstrate his personal integrity and love of country; he should have declined. Jim Drive your car. Use your cell phone. CHOOSE ONE ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ranger Posted October 10, 2009 Report Share Posted October 10, 2009 Rip america, turn your back on allies, shake hands with dictators, and lower your defenses and get an award. Don't forget the embarrassing bow to a Saudi prince, sheik, king or what ever he was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OynxSTS Posted October 10, 2009 Report Share Posted October 10, 2009 Carter was president before Reagan, http://www.huppi.com/kangaroo/L-carterreagan.htm I have heard that the Canadian health care is as bad as England's, is that not true? Long lines and long waits Yes, we had Carter's double digit inflation, and then we had double digit interest rates with Reagan... Carter First, Reagan Second... I think that's what I posted. If I recall unemployment was really bad under Reagan too... and I made a killing in the market with Clinton... and I'm doing pretty good with Obama too.. I was lucky with Bush and got most of my money out of the market before the house of cards collapsed and he started socializing everything. Long Lines and waits? At least where I live, absolutely not true. I have a Family Doctor (two of them actually) that I picked freely... Usually I make my checkup appointments a week in advance. Urgent stuff usually the same day... There is also a free drop in clinic with three more doctors half a block from my house that I can walk to and drop in any time (business hours and weekends) . I went there once for my second kidney stone when I couldn't bring myself to drive 2 miles to the local hospital... Ahh the Hospital... top rate facility... with just about every scanner CT MRI thingy that you could dream up. Had a CT Scan there for the first Kidney Stone (thought I was dying) total wait 15 minutes... Son was born there to... C-Section... no wait... actually went in a day early... when the wife's water broke unexpected... 2 hours later when the OBGYN got there... Baby boy was born... Wife had private room with an extra bed if I wanted to sleep there too.. Nurses sent me home because I was snoring and keeping everyone up. Top rate service... Amazingly good nurses. I've been in the emergency room a few times... metal in my eye, stitches, broke my arm in high school etc. depending on the time of day you can wait at most a couple of hours... most times I go right in. Need more? How about some serious stuff.. My dad had chest pain a couple of years ago. They did a bunch of tests right away and 6 weeks later he was in for a sextuplet heart bypass... Didn't know they did that many... Took his leg longer to heal then his heart. Oh we was told if at any time during that wait he had any pain to go right to emergency and they would cut him open right away. Rationing? I haven't seen any... They even operated on my 88 year old grandfather in an attempt to save his 4th and 5th toes from diabetes... He told them "just cut them off" Nope they saved the toes... Oh total cost for all of that? Nothing... When I go to the dentist every 6 months (whether I want to or not) for a cleaning and check up... it costs $10.. but I get a free toothbrush. Crowns and Caps are kinda expensive as are braces... But a regular cleaning or filling are cheap like borscht. I'm sure in some parts of Canada... In the middle of now where... You would probably have a hard time finding a doctor, a dentist, or a decent hospital... But in the big cities... Yes it is untrue. I will add to my personal Canadian Healthcare Experiences.... my opinion... as I have posted in the past I am a fiscal and political conservative and am a member of the Conservative party of Canada... The reality in my country is that if any politician were to propose switching Canada to an "American" System of Health Insurance... and remember this is very little to do with Healthcare and a whole lot to do with Health Insurance... He would be laughed out of the country. Oh and the politician who actually brought Canada our socialized system. He is immortalized on our $50 bill... Easin' down the highway in a new Cadillac, I had a fine fox in front, I had three more in the back ZZTOP, I'm Bad I'm Nationwide Greg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarrenJ Posted October 10, 2009 Author Report Share Posted October 10, 2009 [.. but you probably don't want to hear about that either. No, you're wrong. I WANT to hear about it. Regards, Warren There is no means of avoiding the final collapse of a boom brought about by credit expansion. The alternative is only whether the crisis should come sooner as the result of a voluntary abandonment of further credit expansion, or later as a final and total catastrophe of the currency system involved. - Ludwig von Mises Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marika Posted October 10, 2009 Report Share Posted October 10, 2009 When they gave the peace prize to Arafat I knew it was a load of fertilizer. Giving the prize to Obama confirms it. If you really want to make people safe drivers again then simply remove all the safety features from cars. No more seat belts, ABS brakes, traction control, air bags or stability control. No more anything. You'll see how quickly people will slow down and once again learn to drive like "normal" humans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BodybyFisher Posted October 10, 2009 Report Share Posted October 10, 2009 From the American Thinker http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/10/the...n_of_peace.html October 10, 2009 The Politicization of Peace By Bruce Walker Few spectacles so clearly show the politicization of life than the surreally silly award of the Nobel Peace Prize to Obama. The Nobel Prize has long been a reflection of the whims of those who run political correctness. The politicization of peace extends beyond just the Nobel Prize. The very day that the Nobel Committee announced its choice of Obama, Code Pink co-founder Medea Benjamin miraculously "discovered," eight years after American forces invaded Afghanistan that "If the U.S. troops left - the country would collapse. We'd go into civil war." The about face on our domestic peace movement reflects only who now commands American forces. Benjamin likes Obama, so her doctrinaire commitment to peace goes wobbly when Obama is Commander-in-Chief. Many people have noted the total disconnect between Peace Prize winners, like Al Gore and Jimmy Carter, and world peace. Gore, of course, supported our undeclared war against Serbia ten years ago. Before that, Gore supported "Operation Just Cause," the insertion by Clinton of American troops into Haiti to impose our will on that nation's politics. He voted for Operation Desert Storm, but most notably, he pandered his vote on that crucial question based upon how it would help him politically. Gore does not even seem to care about world peace. The politicization stretches back earlier. Woodrow Wilson, who campaigned in 1916 with the slogan "He kept us out of war," and five months after his re-election, shortly after his inauguration, Wilson asked Congress to declare war on Germany, plunging us into an utterly unnecessary war whose ultimate end almost ensured a Second World War. Wilson, the vile racist bigot who lied to the American people about going into war, won the Nobel Peace Prize. Terrorists like Yasser Arafat, Communist aparaticks like Michael Gorbachev and Le Duc Tho, have won the Nobel Peace Prize. Willy Brandt, the socialist chancellor of West Germany who left office under a scandal when it was revealed that his closest aide was a Communist spy, won the Nobel Peace Prize. What is the common thread that links Obama, Arafat, Carter, Gorbachev, Tho, Wilson, and Gore? All are planted firmly on the left of the political spectrum. Even when the winner is a truly decent man, like Andrei Sakharov, if the candidate does not support the left, he does not win and if he supports the left then he can win the Peace Prize no matter what. Sakharov, after all, won the Stalin Prize and the Lenin Prize for helping the Soviet Union build an Atomic Bomb and then masterminding the Soviet development of the Hydrogen Bomb. The greatest nuclear explosion in human history, a 25 megaton blast, occurred in 1961 under the guidance of Sakharov. When Sakharov began to worry about the nuclear weapons he built, his attitude was traditionally leftist: he called, specifically, for an end to anti-ballistic defenses. Sakharov opposed building weapons which could make nuclear missiles useless. Just as revealing are all the people who did not receive the Nobel Peace Prize. Ronald Reagan won the Cold War without firing a shot, the greatest triumph for peace in world history. Pope John Paul II boldly reached out to end the historic distrust between the Catholic Church and Jews; he also showed how passive resistance could work in Poland; he also went around the world preaching peace and love; he also forgave the Moslem who tried to assassinate him. Alexander Solzhenitsyn won the Nobel Prize for Literature, but not for Peace, even though he proved, perhaps more courageously than any man in modern history, that the pen could be mightier than the sword. Konrad Adenauer worked hard for a peaceful Germany at the end of the First World War; he opposed the Nazis and spent time in a concentration camp for that; after the Second World War ended, Adenauer reunited the three western sectors of Germany and reached out to Israel and offered, without being asked, for the Federal Republic of Germany to pay reparations to Israel. None of these magnificent champions of peace won the Nobel Peace Prize. The Nobel Peace Prize, like the support of Code Pink is based upon ideology and nothing else. So Obama, Gore, Carter, and Wilson have won the Peace Prize, but Reagan, who dedicated his last term in office to ridding the world of nuclear weapons and who actually won a world war without violence, does not. Willy Brandt, a thoroughly unlikable socialist West German chancellor, who left office in scandal, wins the award, while a magnificently noble conservative West German chancellor does not. So two Soviets who buy the rhetoric of the chic left - Gorbachev and Sakharov - win the award, while a much braver and clear voice for peace, Solzhenitsyn, does not? We should know by now, if we ever needed to know, that the awards, compliments, and honors which the establishment of the world offers is offered only to those who have first paid homage to the ideology of the left. Awards given to communist terrorists, like Le Duc Tho, or anti-Semitic ogres like Jimmy Carter, are no badges of achievement: such awards are evidence of moral surrender. Bruce Walker is the author of two books: Sinisterism: Secular Religion of the Lie and The Swastika against the Cross: The Nazi War on Christianity. 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BodybyFisher Posted October 10, 2009 Report Share Posted October 10, 2009 The above article is wrong in this regard, the greatest nuke explosion was in 1961, it was 58 megatons and called the Tsar Pre-1995 - DTC codes OBD1 >> 1996 and newer - DTC codes OBD2 >> https://www.obd-codes.com/trouble_codes/gm/obd_codes.htm How to check for codes Caddyinfo How To Technical Archive >> http://www.caddyinfo.com/wordpress/cadillac-how-to-faq/ Cadillac History & Specifications Year by Year http://www.motorera.com/cadillac/index.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarrenJ Posted October 10, 2009 Author Report Share Posted October 10, 2009 When they gave the peace prize to Arafat I knew it was a load of fertilizer. Giving the prize to Obama confirms it. There is no means of avoiding the final collapse of a boom brought about by credit expansion. The alternative is only whether the crisis should come sooner as the result of a voluntary abandonment of further credit expansion, or later as a final and total catastrophe of the currency system involved. - Ludwig von Mises Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarrenJ Posted October 10, 2009 Author Report Share Posted October 10, 2009 Who knows, OBAMA! may one day deserve it. But today, he won it because of little other than a great smile. Kinda reminds me of Carter. Ouch! Regards, Warren There is no means of avoiding the final collapse of a boom brought about by credit expansion. The alternative is only whether the crisis should come sooner as the result of a voluntary abandonment of further credit expansion, or later as a final and total catastrophe of the currency system involved. - Ludwig von Mises Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarrenJ Posted October 10, 2009 Author Report Share Posted October 10, 2009 When I go to the dentist every 6 months (whether I want to or not) for a cleaning and check up... it costs $10.. but I get a free toothbrush. Well, ya got me with that one. I just can't top it. Imagine: A friggin' FREE 10 cent piece of plastic! From China, no less! Regards, Warren NOTE: Edited. There is no means of avoiding the final collapse of a boom brought about by credit expansion. The alternative is only whether the crisis should come sooner as the result of a voluntary abandonment of further credit expansion, or later as a final and total catastrophe of the currency system involved. - Ludwig von Mises Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OynxSTS Posted October 10, 2009 Report Share Posted October 10, 2009 When I go to the dentist every 6 months (whether I want to or not) for a cleaning and check up... it costs $10.. but I get a free toothbrush. Well, ya got me with that one. I just can't top it. Imagine: A friggin' FREE 10 cent piece of plastic! Regards, Warren See I told you, you didn't want to know... Oh, I found the actuall "Dentist Bill" it wasn't $10... it was $9.84 Canadian... I remember one night watching about 3 months ago Larry King with Liz Cheney on and she was talking about Canadian Health Care... She was talking garbage about how the government rations care and assigns you your doctor, waiting list for every thing, and other made up stuff... My wife screamed at the TV... "what a bunch of crap" and stormed out of the room... the last time she did that was the fourth quarter of the Seahawks Steelers SuperBowl Game. I can add that my wife did see an American Doctor while on vacation once... the wait time of about 60 minutes was about what I would expect with a visit to emergency... The American Doctor was very good figured out what my wife's problem was on the spot, gave her a prescription and she was feeling better the next day... Total cost was less then $400 (including the meds) which it thought was super cheap... When we got home I sent in the bills and it was all reimbursed. Even Cheaper! Easin' down the highway in a new Cadillac, I had a fine fox in front, I had three more in the back ZZTOP, I'm Bad I'm Nationwide Greg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ted tcb Posted October 10, 2009 Report Share Posted October 10, 2009 When I go to the dentist every 6 months (whether I want to or not) for a cleaning and check up... it costs $10.. but I get a free toothbrush. Well, ya got me with that one. I just can't top it. Imagine: A friggin' FREE 10 cent piece of plastic! Regards, Warren I agree with the great healthcare comments by Oynx ... I recently had ocular implants put into both eyes by my opthamologist. The wait was about 1 month, totally reasonable as I really didn't want the surgery, but my doctor was threatening to pull my license. No cost, and the results were superb. But, Oynx, how the heck do you get free dental care ... must be a BC benefit, because we pay for all dental care here in the East. 1989 FWD Fleetwood, Silver 1995 STS Crimson Pearl on Black leather 1997 STS Diamond White 1999 STS Crimson Pearl 2001 STS Silver 2003 STS, Crimson Pearl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarrenJ Posted October 11, 2009 Author Report Share Posted October 11, 2009 When I go to the dentist every 6 months (whether I want to or not) for a cleaning and check up... it costs $10.. but I get a free toothbrush. Well, ya got me with that one. I just can't top it. Imagine: A friggin' FREE 10 cent piece of plastic! Regards, Warren See I told you, you didn't want to know... Oh, I found the actuall "Dentist Bill" it wasn't $10... it was $9.84 Canadian... I remember one night watching about 3 months ago Larry King with Liz Cheney on and she was talking about Canadian Health Care... She was talking garbage about how the government rations care and assigns you your doctor, waiting list for every thing, and other made up stuff... My wife screamed at the TV... "what a bunch of crap" and stormed out of the room... the last time she did that was the fourth quarter of the Seahawks Steelers SuperBowl Game. I can add that my wife did see an American Doctor while on vacation once... the wait time of about 60 minutes was about what I would expect with a visit to emergency... The American Doctor was very good figured out what my wife's problem was on the spot, gave her a prescription and she was feeling better the next day... Total cost was less then $400 (including the meds) which it thought was super cheap... When we got home I sent in the bills and it was all reimbursed. Even Cheaper! Okay, I surrender. You're right. I just simply didn't want to know. I'm not surprised, however, about your wife's behaviour. Regards, Warren There is no means of avoiding the final collapse of a boom brought about by credit expansion. The alternative is only whether the crisis should come sooner as the result of a voluntary abandonment of further credit expansion, or later as a final and total catastrophe of the currency system involved. - Ludwig von Mises Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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