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I have a 94 deville 4.9L that has been sitting in my garage. I started it a few weeks ago and it took a bit before it turned over. Battery was dying. I just tried to start it tonight, figure I better start it once in a while to keep the battery charged but the battery did not have enough juice and it died. I changed out the battery (had a spare) and it would not start. No sound, dash lights are on along with all other lights. When I turn the key nothing.... Can someone help. I cleaned battery cables, knocked on the starter, checked for corrosion. Please help.

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I have a 94 deville 4.9L that has been sitting in my garage. I started it a few weeks ago and it took a bit before it turned over. Battery was dying. I just tried to start it tonight, figure I better start it once in a while to keep the battery charged but the battery did not have enough juice and it died. I changed out the battery (had a spare) and it would not start. No sound, dash lights are on along with all other lights. When I turn the key nothing.... Can someone help. I cleaned battery cables, knocked on the starter, checked for corrosion. Please help.

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Probably bad connections (corrosion) on the starter end and the ground on the engine block by the starter. Disconnect-clean-reconnect.

Try that and let us know if it does not help.

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do the lights in the cabin dim? - do you hear clicking from the starter?

I suspect 2 bad batteries.

What are the date codes on the batteries is the "spare" a known good battery, or has it been sitting on the garage floor for a while. you need to use a good battery. it can have 12 volts, but it can't deliver the amps to engage the solenoid to crank the engine.

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do the lights in the cabin dim? - do you hear clicking from the starter?

I suspect 2 bad batteries.

What are the date codes on the batteries is the "spare" a known good battery, or has it been sitting on the garage floor for a while. you need to use a good battery. it can have 12 volts, but it can't deliver the amps to engage the solenoid to crank the engine.

I hooked up my battery from my truck, still no go. I took the starter off and tested it. It's good. I put everything back together and tried it again. The lights inside the car work fine. Windows roll up and down. Truck works. Everything is fine except when I turn the key the dash light turn of and the brack light turns on. Is there a relay that I should be concerned with. I checked all of the fuses and they are good.

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do the lights in the cabin dim? - do you hear clicking from the starter?

I suspect 2 bad batteries.

What are the date codes on the batteries is the "spare" a known good battery, or has it been sitting on the garage floor for a while. you need to use a good battery. it can have 12 volts, but it can't deliver the amps to engage the solenoid to crank the engine.

I hooked up my battery from my truck, still no go. I took the starter off and tested it. It's good. I put everything back together and tried it again. The lights inside the car work fine. Windows roll up and down. Truck works. Everything is fine except when I turn the key the dash light turn of and the brack light turns on. Is there a relay that I should be concerned with. I checked all of the fuses and they are good.

Yes, there is starter enable relay somewhere. Try to put a jumper from battery positive to starters positive. See if it helps. BE VERY CAREFUL! Make sure the jumper does not touch intake manifold.

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do the lights in the cabin dim? - do you hear clicking from the starter?

I suspect 2 bad batteries.

What are the date codes on the batteries is the "spare" a known good battery, or has it been sitting on the garage floor for a while. you need to use a good battery. it can have 12 volts, but it can't deliver the amps to engage the solenoid to crank the engine.

I hooked up my battery from my truck, still no go. I took the starter off and tested it. It's good. I put everything back together and tried it again. The lights inside the car work fine. Windows roll up and down. Truck works. Everything is fine except when I turn the key the dash light turn of and the brack light turns on. Is there a relay that I should be concerned with. I checked all of the fuses and they are good.

Yes, there is starter enable relay somewhere. Try to put a jumper from battery positive to starters positive. See if it helps. BE VERY CAREFUL! Make sure the jumper does not touch intake manifold.

What will this do? Does this correct my problem?

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do the lights in the cabin dim? - do you hear clicking from the starter?

I suspect 2 bad batteries.

What are the date codes on the batteries is the "spare" a known good battery, or has it been sitting on the garage floor for a while. you need to use a good battery. it can have 12 volts, but it can't deliver the amps to engage the solenoid to crank the engine.

I hooked up my battery from my truck, still no go. I took the starter off and tested it. It's good. I put everything back together and tried it again. The lights inside the car work fine. Windows roll up and down. Truck works. Everything is fine except when I turn the key the dash light turn of and the brack light turns on. Is there a relay that I should be concerned with. I checked all of the fuses and they are good.

Yes, there is starter enable relay somewhere. Try to put a jumper from battery positive to starters positive. See if it helps. BE VERY CAREFUL! Make sure the jumper does not touch intake manifold.

What will this do? Does this correct my problem?

Well, just try and see. Easy test, jut be very careful. Your starter might not get enough power (ampers) from your battery because of bad cables/connections). The starter enable relay is inside of theft deterr. unit, which is by the steering column in my car. You have to remove left sound insulator, knee bolster, a couple of brackets etc. to get the relay.

I replaced my starter (bad armature) with a reman. ACDelco starter three years ago, and it was bad right out of box. But because it eventually started every time (sometimes it took several attempts) I left it alone. Recently, I have noticed the starter drainded my battery. It actually ruined a new NAPA battery and now it drains another NAPA battery. Looks like there is a short inside of the solenoid or somewhere in the starter and that short gets worse. Have to replace the starter and see. Good timing! It was told many times that aftermarket remanufactured starters are junk. As you see, ACDelco is not good either despite it is much more expensive... What the hell is a starter they cannot make them right?! :(

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do the lights in the cabin dim? - do you hear clicking from the starter?

I suspect 2 bad batteries.

What are the date codes on the batteries is the "spare" a known good battery, or has it been sitting on the garage floor for a while. you need to use a good battery. it can have 12 volts, but it can't deliver the amps to engage the solenoid to crank the engine.

I hooked up my battery from my truck, still no go. I took the starter off and tested it. It's good. I put everything back together and tried it again. The lights inside the car work fine. Windows roll up and down. Truck works. Everything is fine except when I turn the key the dash light turn of and the brack light turns on. Is there a relay that I should be concerned with. I checked all of the fuses and they are good.

Yes, there is starter enable relay somewhere. Try to put a jumper from battery positive to starters positive. See if it helps. BE VERY CAREFUL! Make sure the jumper does not touch intake manifold.

What will this do? Does this correct my problem?

Well, just try and see. Easy test, jut be very careful. Your starter might not get enough power (ampers) from your battery because of bad cables/connections). The starter enable relay is inside of theft deterr. unit, which is by the steering column in my car. You have to remove left sound insulator, knee bolster, a couple of brackets etc. to get the relay.

I replaced my starter (bad armature) with a reman. ACDelco starter three years ago, and it was bad right out of box. But because it eventually started every time (sometimes it took several attempts) I left it alone. Recently, I have noticed the starter drainded my battery. It actually ruined a new NAPA battery and now it drains another NAPA battery. Looks like there is a short inside of the solenoid or somewhere in the starter and that short gets worse. Have to replace the starter and see. Good timing! It was told many times that aftermarket remanufactured starters are junk. As you see, ACDelco is not good either despite it is much more expensive... What the hell is a starter they cannot make them right?! :(

Tried jumper and she started right up. Now what can I do to test other areas. I don't think it's the anti theft because doesn't this disable the fuel pump. Please help

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do the lights in the cabin dim? - do you hear clicking from the starter?

I suspect 2 bad batteries.

What are the date codes on the batteries is the "spare" a known good battery, or has it been sitting on the garage floor for a while. you need to use a good battery. it can have 12 volts, but it can't deliver the amps to engage the solenoid to crank the engine.

I hooked up my battery from my truck, still no go. I took the starter off and tested it. It's good. I put everything back together and tried it again. The lights inside the car work fine. Windows roll up and down. Truck works. Everything is fine except when I turn the key the dash light turn of and the brack light turns on. Is there a relay that I should be concerned with. I checked all of the fuses and they are good.

Yes, there is starter enable relay somewhere. Try to put a jumper from battery positive to starters positive. See if it helps. BE VERY CAREFUL! Make sure the jumper does not touch intake manifold.

What will this do? Does this correct my problem?

Well, just try and see. Easy test, jut be very careful. Your starter might not get enough power (ampers) from your battery because of bad cables/connections). The starter enable relay is inside of theft deterr. unit, which is by the steering column in my car. You have to remove left sound insulator, knee bolster, a couple of brackets etc. to get the relay.

I replaced my starter (bad armature) with a reman. ACDelco starter three years ago, and it was bad right out of box. But because it eventually started every time (sometimes it took several attempts) I left it alone. Recently, I have noticed the starter drainded my battery. It actually ruined a new NAPA battery and now it drains another NAPA battery. Looks like there is a short inside of the solenoid or somewhere in the starter and that short gets worse. Have to replace the starter and see. Good timing! It was told many times that aftermarket remanufactured starters are junk. As you see, ACDelco is not good either despite it is much more expensive... What the hell is a starter they cannot make them right?! :(

Tried jumper and she started right up. Now what can I do to test other areas. I don't think it's the anti theft because doesn't this disable the fuel pump. Please help

See! Never ignore an advice from an old-timer... At least, you have a car you can start. You can drive that car with a TEMPORARY jumper for a long time. I drove mine for two years. Just make sure the jumper does not touch intake manifold. Most likely, you need new starter (bad starter solenoid). But it can be whole bunch of other things (bad cables, grounds, contacts). Disconnecting cables on the starter end, cleaning the area up, reconnecting might help. Leave alone antithefet system. The starter enable relay is a part of that system, but I do not believe that relay is bad. Only you can test the rest. The good thing is that your car is back to road.

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Tried jumper and she started right up. Now what can I do to test other areas. I don't think it's the anti theft because doesn't this disable the fuel pump. Please help

That would lead me to believe that you have bad cables. Maybe corrosion got under the insulation.

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