Allante91 Posted August 7, 2008 Report Share Posted August 7, 2008 I've recently replaced the Battery in my 91 Allante and all instruments eluminate correctly, however when turning my key the vehicle will not start as if a battery was not conected. Looking for step by step guidence that will allow me to once again enjoy my vehicle without taking to dealer. Thanks, Dave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed Hall Posted August 7, 2008 Report Share Posted August 7, 2008 Check your connections again. Why did you replace the battery in the first place? If that doesn't work, get a small piece of wood and to whack on the starter. My 87 Allante has the exact same problem and if I let the car set for several weeks, the starter will not work until I would get under the car and give the starter a good whack. Good luck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KHE Posted August 7, 2008 Report Share Posted August 7, 2008 My 87 Allante has the exact same problem and if I let the car set for several weeks, the starter will not work until I would get under the car and give the starter a good whack. Good luck. Ed, Sounds like it is time to have the starter opened up - either the bushings are worn to the point that the armature is dragging on the case, a dead spot in the armature, or the solenoid is bad. Kevin '93 Fleetwood Brougham '05 Deville '04 Deville 2013 Silverado Z71 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
navion Posted August 7, 2008 Report Share Posted August 7, 2008 CAUTION!! Whacking a starter that has field coils is a method to get a few more starts out of an ailing starter. I have "saved the day" many times by giving the old type starters a healthy whack. However, whacking a starter that has permanent magnet fields can dislodge and/or crack the magnets. This will destroy the starter and ruin it's core value. If a "lite weight" permanent magnet starter is not the culprit of a no start situation, whacking it may just compound the problem. I'm not sure when GM changed to permanent magnet fields on their starters. I know that my 1996 Suburban has one. You can tell a permanent magnet starter by it's lack of field coil retaining screws in the starter's main housing. Permanent magnet starters, or "light weight" starters are generally smaller in diameter than the old style starters. Many times the field housing will be anodized a silver or lite gold color instead of painted. Britt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed Hall Posted August 7, 2008 Report Share Posted August 7, 2008 My 87 Allante has a light weight gear starter. It's small and weights less than 8 lbs. It'll probably have to be rebuilt since I have not found a new source. So far, whacking it has always worked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
navion Posted August 7, 2008 Report Share Posted August 7, 2008 My 87 Allante has a light weight gear starter. It's small and weights less than 8 lbs. It'll probably have to be rebuilt since I have not found a new source. So far, whacking it has always worked. Ed, Apparently you have a brush that is sticking. Whacking it allows the brush to make contact with the commutator. If you have been whacking your lite-weight starter, then you have been very lucky that you haven't broken the magnets. I would agree that a rebuild or an exchange is in order. Hopefully you are not killing the engine in this car at stoplights! That could get embarrassing! Take Care, Britt Britt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed Hall Posted August 7, 2008 Report Share Posted August 7, 2008 My 87 Allante has a light weight gear starter. It's small and weights less than 8 lbs. It'll probably have to be rebuilt since I have not found a new source. So far, whacking it has always worked. Ed, Apparently you have a brush that is sticking. Whacking it allows the brush to make contact with the commutator. If you have been whacking your lite-weight starter, then you have been very lucky that you haven't broken the magnets. I would agree that a rebuild or an exchange is in order. Hopefully you are not killing the engine in this car at stoplights! That could get embarrassing! Take Care, Britt Hopefully you are not killing the engine in this car at stoplights! That could get embarrassing! Yes that would be frustrating. Right now this car is "moth balled" awaiting decision on what to do with. I now drive a 93 Allante with low miles onit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lacanuck Posted September 1, 2008 Report Share Posted September 1, 2008 Hi, I just started having troubles turning over. I would like to try tapping the starter, where and how do I do this? Just so I can get it to the shop. Carl CAUTION!! Whacking a starter that has field coils is a method to get a few more starts out of an ailing starter. I have "saved the day" many times by giving the old type starters a healthy whack. However, whacking a starter that has permanent magnet fields can dislodge and/or crack the magnets. This will destroy the starter and ruin it's core value. If a "lite weight" permanent magnet starter is not the culprit of a no start situation, whacking it may just compound the problem. I'm not sure when GM changed to permanent magnet fields on their starters. I know that my 1996 Suburban has one. You can tell a permanent magnet starter by it's lack of field coil retaining screws in the starter's main housing. Permanent magnet starters, or "light weight" starters are generally smaller in diameter than the old style starters. Many times the field housing will be anodized a silver or lite gold color instead of painted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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