dmsfresh Posted July 30, 2008 Report Share Posted July 30, 2008 new altenator i got from a place that is known to have the best parts in town GINUINE AUTO PARTS any way i put it on and still says bat not charging servive charging sys service security sys and to top it off sometimes the windows dont roll down this is nuts please share our stories Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BodybyFisher Posted July 30, 2008 Report Share Posted July 30, 2008 new altenator i got from a place that is known to have the best parts in town GINUINE AUTO PARTS any way i put it on and still says bat not charging servive charging sys service security sys and to top it off sometimes the windows dont roll down this is nuts please share our stories What does this mean "please share our stories" Pre-1995 - DTC codes OBD1 >> 1996 and newer - DTC codes OBD2 >> https://www.obd-codes.com/trouble_codes/gm/obd_codes.htm How to check for codes Caddyinfo How To Technical Archive >> http://www.caddyinfo.com/wordpress/cadillac-how-to-faq/ Cadillac History & Specifications Year by Year http://www.motorera.com/cadillac/index.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BodybyFisher Posted July 30, 2008 Report Share Posted July 30, 2008 MAYBE you didn't see this In my first post to you in this thread, http://caddyinfo.ipbhost.com/index.php?sho...c=18340&hl= I said: DO NOT USE A CHEAPO ALTERNATOR, USE AN AC DELCO PREFERABLY, we have seen problems with aftermarket alternators Run your codes and see what its says, (x? terminal) Pre-1995 - DTC codes OBD1 >> 1996 and newer - DTC codes OBD2 >> https://www.obd-codes.com/trouble_codes/gm/obd_codes.htm How to check for codes Caddyinfo How To Technical Archive >> http://www.caddyinfo.com/wordpress/cadillac-how-to-faq/ Cadillac History & Specifications Year by Year http://www.motorera.com/cadillac/index.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmsfresh Posted July 30, 2008 Author Report Share Posted July 30, 2008 yea i saw the post but her ein dayton the place i got it from has always been known for selling real gm parts it was the place besides the dealer ive always gotten my electrical parts there but i guesss not anymore Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BodybyFisher Posted July 30, 2008 Report Share Posted July 30, 2008 yea i saw the post but her ein dayton the place i got it from has always been known for selling real gm parts it was the place besides the dealer ive always gotten my electrical parts there but i guesss not anymore They sell GM parts and you bought aftermarket? Its not your store that is a problem, it IS that if you bought an aftermarket alternator, THAT is a problem, there is some problem with the PCM communicating with the alternator in aftermarket alternators. You MUST either buy a new AC DELCO alternator or a certified rebuilt AC DELCO alternator. That is way too much work to take that risk, but look at it this way, R&Ring the alternator will be a LOT easier this time... When we post a direct statement here like this "DO NOT USE A CHEAPO ALTERNATOR, USE AN AC DELCO PREFERABLY", it comes from experience, we have seen MANY members have the SAME problem you just did.. It will be easy return this one, and buy the AC Delco from the same place.. POST YOUR CODES PLEASE, it is important You are in Dayton, Ohio? Pre-1995 - DTC codes OBD1 >> 1996 and newer - DTC codes OBD2 >> https://www.obd-codes.com/trouble_codes/gm/obd_codes.htm How to check for codes Caddyinfo How To Technical Archive >> http://www.caddyinfo.com/wordpress/cadillac-how-to-faq/ Cadillac History & Specifications Year by Year http://www.motorera.com/cadillac/index.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmsfresh Posted July 30, 2008 Author Report Share Posted July 30, 2008 thats what im saying it was supossed to a real gm part ac delco i took specail care to ask i think i just got screwed so anyway i just went and claered the codes. should i have done that after i replaced it anyway Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BodybyFisher Posted July 30, 2008 Report Share Posted July 30, 2008 thats what im saying it was supossed to a real gm part ac delco i took specail care to ask i think i just got screwed so anyway i just went and claered the codes. should i have done that after i replaced it anyway OH...wow am I confused.. I misunderstood your writing. So you do have an ac delco, you saw the box? Is this rebuilt or new? Is the alternator out? Just start the car with it in, and see what the codes are now.. Pre-1995 - DTC codes OBD1 >> 1996 and newer - DTC codes OBD2 >> https://www.obd-codes.com/trouble_codes/gm/obd_codes.htm How to check for codes Caddyinfo How To Technical Archive >> http://www.caddyinfo.com/wordpress/cadillac-how-to-faq/ Cadillac History & Specifications Year by Year http://www.motorera.com/cadillac/index.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAC Posted July 30, 2008 Report Share Posted July 30, 2008 This thread is giving me flashbacks. I bought a number of aftermarket alternators only to find they only worked for a week or so. I went to PepBoys and two alternators were defective right out of the box. So, it's possible to buy a defective aftermarket alternator. Even if you have it checked in store before you buy it--this doesn't guaranty it will work for any appreciable time. I finally bought a new one with a lifetime guaranty and it's still running. The remanufactured alternators can be poor quality because only defective parts are replaced and it's cleaned and then resold. Even if it's suppose to have been totally rebuilt, I wouldn't necessarily trust such representation. Remanufacturers are out to make a buck and rebuild with lowest costs possible--at least, based on my experience, it would appear this is the case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texas Jim Posted July 30, 2008 Report Share Posted July 30, 2008 Mac, Talking about flashbacks....you and me both. Buying aftermarket stuff. ESPECIALLY anything ELECTRONIC. It just ain't worth the trouble and hassle. I have done it countless times, down thru the years.... low on funds... need a part... aftermarket is cheaper than OEM. Buy it... install it... take it back and exchange it when it don't work. Then install it again. A few days, (or if I am lucky) a few weeks, "AFTER" the warranty runs out, I get the fun of doing it all over again. Now I have bought TWO if the blankedy blank things... It would have been cheaper to have bought the GOOD ONE in the beginning but I thought I was doing the right thing and trying to save a little money. And thats not to mention all the hassle you go thru. I have bought GOOD aftermarket electronic parts... but I can't remember, right now, exactly WHEN. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
navion Posted July 30, 2008 Report Share Posted July 30, 2008 I, too had an AutoZone rebuilt alternator fail after about 3 days. When I took it back, the sales jerk asked what I was upset about. It's under warranty! After that little incident, I have not bought any AutoZone rebuilt parts, only Delco. BTW I got my money back AND since I hadn't turned in a core, still had one to turn in for a Delco rebuild. Britt Britt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BodybyFisher Posted July 30, 2008 Report Share Posted July 30, 2008 I actually have my own alternator rebuilt at a starter, generator and alternator rebuilder called Montrose in Babylon, NY. They independently of this board confirmed that if it is not rebuilt with the correct electronics, it has difficulty communicating with the PCM and the PCM issues a code. I think its an F terminal error if I recall. SO, you CAN in fact buy a quality rebuilt alternator if the rebuilder knows and cares what he is doing. The problem arises when the chains sell so called Lifetime Warranty parts, to me, those are dangerous. Their attitude is, you will either lose the receipt, sell the car or just swap it out when it goes. Many of them out of the box immediately throw a code. I tell most people to buy an AC DELCO rebuilt or new because, you an count on the quality right out of the box. With the difficulty of R&R'ing this alternator who wants to do this job more than once. Pre-1995 - DTC codes OBD1 >> 1996 and newer - DTC codes OBD2 >> https://www.obd-codes.com/trouble_codes/gm/obd_codes.htm How to check for codes Caddyinfo How To Technical Archive >> http://www.caddyinfo.com/wordpress/cadillac-how-to-faq/ Cadillac History & Specifications Year by Year http://www.motorera.com/cadillac/index.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAC Posted July 31, 2008 Report Share Posted July 31, 2008 Mac, Talking about flashbacks....you and me both. Buying aftermarket stuff. ESPECIALLY anything ELECTRONIC. It just ain't worth the trouble and hassle. I have done it countless times, down thru the years.... low on funds... need a part... aftermarket is cheaper than OEM. Buy it... install it... take it back and exchange it when it don't work. Then install it again. A few days, (or if I am lucky) a few weeks, "AFTER" the warranty runs out, I get the fun of doing it all over again. Now I have bought TWO if the blankedy blank things... It would have been cheaper to have bought the GOOD ONE in the beginning but I thought I was doing the right thing and trying to save a little money. And thats not to mention all the hassle you go thru. I have bought GOOD aftermarket electronic parts... but I can't remember, right now, exactly WHEN. I learned that buying rebuilt alternators is not the best idea, particularly if it's not an easy replacement job. If it's a matter of a 15-30 minute job then maybe take a chance. But if it's for a Northstar, might as well buy OEM or something that is brand new. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ranger Posted July 31, 2008 Report Share Posted July 31, 2008 I once read that you should only buy "dumb" parts (filters, oil, coolant etc) from AZ. They give a lifetime warranty for a reason. THEY ARE CHEAP, and they are cheap for a reason. They are cheaply made. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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