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Ok I need to replace my side tanks. Should I do this job myself or take it to my local radiator shop and have them flush it and pressure test it when they are done? They want $50 to install the tanks and I planned to ask them to hot soak it and pressure test it (which I think they will do anyway). I was also going to get them to flush the tranny and oil coolers unless that was standard. What do you guys think?

I was planning to buy this tab tool if I did it myself:

JOHNSON'S WIDE TAB TOOL

Like our Tab Tool, but has a wider claw and jaws for lifting and crimping wide aluminum tabs like those found on General Motors PTR's. Both Johnson Tab Tools work great

http://www.johnsonmfg.com/temp/FTOOL.HTM

For $50 I am leaning toward having them do it as they can flush and pressure test it...

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Mike,

You don't need me to tell you this:

1) They will do the job.

2) They will take your money

3) They won't do the job to your satisfaction.

But, maybe you can live with their work. <_<

Regards,

Warren <_<

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Warren, then there is the third option, I just requested a quote from Brasington. I was wrong, for TWO tanks they want $90, that plus $120 for the tanks and gaskets will put me in the new radiator strata. If the radiator is $260, I think I might do it myself as long as I can confirm that it is in fact the tank leaking. Will advise..

Walts radiator on Hallock Road in Port Jefferson by the way are terrific...

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$50 sounds like a deal to me.

Edit, $50 + $90 for the tanks?? I would buy a new radiator and be done with it.

Edit # 2: OK, $90 + $120 = $210. For $230 + shipping you can get a new one.

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$50 sounds like a deal to me.

Sorry clarkz, it was $90 to $100 for two tanks they initially quoted for a single tank..

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Yep I just got a price of $260 including shipping from Brasington..

The Tab Plier is $45 and four side tank clamps are $88 from Johnsons Radiator http://www.johnsonmfg.com/temp/FTOOL.HTM . If I buy the tools, I will have them the next time I need to replace a side tank. The proper way to do this is using the clamps to put pressure on the gasket not just crimp the tabs.. So I can do it myself for the following costs:

$88 Clamps (4 clamps)

$45 Tab Plier

$39 Side Tank

$48 Side Tank

$28 Gaskets

$248 Total

Logically it makes sense for me to buy a new radiator, BUT, if I buy these tools and repair it myself by replacing the tanks when the job ends I will have the tools to do it myself next time, since I am planning to buy a 98-00 STS, they MAY come in handy again... Plus I can lend them to fellow members here.... Thanks for all the input above. Any thoughts?

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Mike,

My tanks came WITH all the gaskets. gmpartsdirect sold me a gasket set, which I sent back.

Sure, you can do the job yourself. You do not need any special tool. I remember a chisel came handy to open the tabs up. To clamp them back I used a wise.

Taking into account the low price of aftermarket radiators I would go for them since they seem to be okay.

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Here's the suggestion you have been waiting for, Mike.

Buy a new radiator and install it.

Buy the tab pliers and practice removing and replacing the side tanks on your old radiator.

New radiator + new tools = win win.

Jim

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Mike

I have to say that I used to be the outspoken advocate for having the old radiator repaired - but I just recently bought Rockauto's premium radiator for only $155 after my repaired original started leaking again. Their GM part number radiator was even cheaper.

FWIW.......

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Mike

Their GM part number radiator was even cheaper.

They use a GM part #, but it's not a GM radiator, that's why it's cheaper then the premium aftermarket rad. It says "various manufacturer's". When you type in the GM part # and click on "more info" it says:

VARIOUS MFR parts come from companies like TYC Genera, DEPO (MaxZone), Kool-Vue, EagleEyes and TYG. A particular part number may be purchased from one manufacturer today to fill out an ocean container, even if we have that part on the shelf from another manufacturer -- that's why we can't promise which manufacturer's part you'll receive. Regardless of manufacturer, these parts look and perform like original equipment -- they're all based on the same original-equipment designs.

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Mike,

Here a 5% discout coupon for Rockauto:

566192431620

Expires Feb 27

I also bought an aftermarket radiator from Rockauto for my 93 Allante and it looked identical to the old one and fit perfectly.

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Thanks Guys for the insight and suggestions. I will probably buy an aftermarket radiator as long as it has the same capacity.. And thanks Ed for that discount.... Thanks

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I was also going to get them to flush the tranny

My first thought was "OMG, Mike's completely lost it" ...then went back and re-read the post. I was going to say, out of all the people on this board, why in the world would you get your Tranny flushed! :lol:

A.J.

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In researching radiator costs last year for another post, I asked for a quote on Radiator.com and a guy called me. I had just replaced mine so I didn't need another, but the guy kept on and the price kept dropping. I don't recall the numbers but they are in line with the best quoted here.

About a year ago, I had a split seam on the right side and replaced it at Meineke. Price was sorta OK. Wished I'd done it myself, but I didn't have the time, either for the job or for the downtime.

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I was also going to get them to flush the tranny

"OMG, Mike's completely lost it"

:lol::lol::lol:

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Now that we have that clear, I don't think the transmission cooler or the oil cooler needs flushing.

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Now that we have that clear, I don't think the transmission cooler or the oil cooler needs flushing.

Lets not exaggerate how much I have lost it :lol:, my manual on page 7A-56 details TRANSAXLE COOLER FLUSHING and FLOW TESTING..... IF you don't know me by now, you can rest assured that while I am fixing a radiator tank, I will flush both coolers to get any gunk or sediment out.

While it does not require a FLUSH unless you experience contamination from component damage or clutch material, flushing both coolers to ensure good flow to me is just good maintenence.

That said, I will probably buy a new radiator its much less trouble...

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That said, I will probably buy a new radiator its much less trouble...

I think that's the right move. Flushing the coolers certainly won't hurt anything.

Jason(2001 STS, White Diamond)

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Mike, I don't know about your area but I replaced mine with a Modine that bolted up from a local Rad. shop for 130, its got to be easier to replace than repair.

Hope the pink jeep is outta the garage cause its cold out there! :blink:

Joe

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Mike, I don't know about your area but I replaced mine with a Modine that bolted up from a local Rad. shop for 130, its got to be easier to replace than repair.

Hope the pink jeep is outta the garage cause its cold out there! :blink:

Joe

Sorry to say, the pink jeep was sold at a garage sale... :lol:

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Mike, if you have time to work it in I would do it myself. Yes, it will probably cost you about the same as a new radiator and it will probably not go as straight forward as you thought, but I would vote for new tools and experience any day. If time is a problem I would buy the new one and buy the tools anyway and fix the old one when time allows and have it for a back up.

I do not have time to work on the cars like I used to due to my job and family. I miss the hands-on fix it yourself experience. I have a few projects waiting for me that I would love to get into but tinkering on old cars does not pay the bills right now. Someday when my girls get old enough I can get some quality time under the hood with them.

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Mike, if you have time to work it in I would do it myself. Yes, it will probably cost you about the same as a new radiator and it will probably not go as straight forward as you thought, but I would vote for new tools and experience any day. If time is a problem I would buy the new one and buy the tools anyway and fix the old one when time allows and have it for a back up.

I do not have time to work on the cars like I used to due to my job and family. I miss the hands-on fix it yourself experience. I have a few projects waiting for me that I would love to get into but tinkering on old cars does not pay the bills right now. Someday when my girls get old enough I can get some quality time under the hood with them.

Hey thanks Paul, appreciate that. Mike

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Don't bother !!!!!!!!!!

These plastic side tank radiators suck ! "Retanking" is tricky at best.

No guarantee that they won't pop a leak down the road.

Best bet..........Get a aftermarket solid and old fashoned 100%

metal side tank replacement radiator. My sisters old VWs

side tanks popped and the local radiator shop was iffy at best

fixing it and if they did no guarantee !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I got a solid metal (brass?) replacement for $165 from a local

radiator suppy house and installed it myself...............geo

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