steve6 Posted February 6, 2007 Report Share Posted February 6, 2007 haha woke up to a surprise today, one big dumping of snow. While trying to get my car out, got some interesting messages! ENGINE POWER REDUCED - 41: This message informs you that the vehicle is reducing engine power because the transaxle is being placed in gear under conditions that may cause damage to the vehicle’s engine, transaxle or ability to accelerate. TRACTION SUSPENDED - 56: This message displays when the traction control system has been temporarily shut off because your vehicle’s brakes have overheated. This message does not indicate a problem with your vehicle’s traction control system. After a few minutes, the traction control system will be available again and the TRACTION READY message will appear. That is actually my driveway if you couldn't tell from the snow! the car is parked on a cement slab that will have a garage built on it eventually. Interesting codes, hope trying to get the car out wasn't too hard on the transmission or anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JasonA Posted February 6, 2007 Report Share Posted February 6, 2007 Was that after a lot of traction control and/or rocking back and forth? If so, it sounds like the brakes overheated temporarily. If you got those messages simply as the car was warming up and you were clearing snow off the windshield, then I don't know. Jason(2001 STS, White Diamond) "When you turn your car on...does it return the favor?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve6 Posted February 6, 2007 Author Report Share Posted February 6, 2007 oh ya , I was rocking it, and giving it alot of gas, lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BodybyFisher Posted February 6, 2007 Report Share Posted February 6, 2007 Were you rocking the car? That is the reason you push the button in the glove compartment to disable the traction control, so you can rock the car in mud and snow... otherwise the traction control drops cylinders to decrease engine power and tries to stop wheel spin by applying the brakes and you burn up your brakes. This is from page 199 of your 1999 OWNERS MANUAL: Pre-1995 - DTC codes OBD1 >> 1996 and newer - DTC codes OBD2 >> https://www.obd-codes.com/trouble_codes/gm/obd_codes.htm How to check for codes Caddyinfo How To Technical Archive >> http://www.caddyinfo.com/wordpress/cadillac-how-to-faq/ Cadillac History & Specifications Year by Year http://www.motorera.com/cadillac/index.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cadillac Jim Posted February 6, 2007 Report Share Posted February 6, 2007 It sounds like the PCM won't let you shoot yourself in the foot, and will scold you primly with messages until you quit whatever you are doing wrong. -- Click Here for CaddyInfo page on "How To" Read Your OBD Codes-- Click Here for my personal page to download my OBD code list as an Excel file, plus other Cadillac data -- See my CaddyInfo car blogs: 2011 CTS-V, 1997 ETC Yes, I was Jims_97_ETC before I changed cars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BodybyFisher Posted February 6, 2007 Report Share Posted February 6, 2007 How does that go? When all else fails READ THE MANUAL! This is from page 78 in your OWNERS MANUAL: Pre-1995 - DTC codes OBD1 >> 1996 and newer - DTC codes OBD2 >> https://www.obd-codes.com/trouble_codes/gm/obd_codes.htm How to check for codes Caddyinfo How To Technical Archive >> http://www.caddyinfo.com/wordpress/cadillac-how-to-faq/ Cadillac History & Specifications Year by Year http://www.motorera.com/cadillac/index.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve6 Posted February 6, 2007 Author Report Share Posted February 6, 2007 That works great in theory, go try it.... when you press the gas with the traction button off, it feels powerless! I just thought it was some interesting messages. hopefully one's ill never see again.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BodybyFisher Posted February 6, 2007 Report Share Posted February 6, 2007 When the TC is off you start in second gear to protect the transaxle, leaving the TC on will cause the TC to drop cylinders to reduce engine power and over heat the brakes using the ABS to stop wheel spin while you are spinning the wheels wildly in the snow... if you want warped rotors keep looking at the interesting messages Pre-1995 - DTC codes OBD1 >> 1996 and newer - DTC codes OBD2 >> https://www.obd-codes.com/trouble_codes/gm/obd_codes.htm How to check for codes Caddyinfo How To Technical Archive >> http://www.caddyinfo.com/wordpress/cadillac-how-to-faq/ Cadillac History & Specifications Year by Year http://www.motorera.com/cadillac/index.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regis Posted February 6, 2007 Report Share Posted February 6, 2007 haha woke up to a surprise today, one big dumping of snow. While trying to get my car out, got some interesting messages! ENGINE POWER REDUCED - 41: This message informs you that the vehicle is reducing engine power because the transaxle is being placed in gear under conditions that may cause damage to the vehicle’s engine, transaxle or ability to accelerate. TRACTION SUSPENDED - 56: This message displays when the traction control system has been temporarily shut off because your vehicle’s brakes have overheated. This message does not indicate a problem with your vehicle’s traction control system. After a few minutes, the traction control system will be available again and the TRACTION READY message will appear. That is actually my driveway if you couldn't tell from the snow! the car is parked on a cement slab that will have a garage built on it eventually. Interesting codes, hope trying to get the car out wasn't too hard on the transmission or anything. First, you have to remember that it's a performance car with little ground clearance and not a truck. That's a decent amount of snow I see in your picture. Did you shovel the car out before testing to see if the traction control worked? Doesn't sound like it. I run with 4 snow tires but that doesn't mean I can just plow through deep snow. Driving in and through deep snow takes finesse. Hopefully your traction control kept you from breaking anything in a moment of bad decisions. I'm betting it has. After rereading the whole thread it seems BBF gave you some good information regarding the TC. I guess you'll know how to rock the car, without the TC, when you really need it. Was the car actually stuck on your level driveway? Or did you just not feel like shoveling? "Burns" rubber " I've never considered myself to be all that conservative, but it seems the more liberal some people get the more conservative I become. " Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve6 Posted February 6, 2007 Author Report Share Posted February 6, 2007 I had snow blow'd upto 2 inches in from of the car, regarless I couldnt control what blew under neath it, and it still had to rock it a bit. "Was the car actually stuck on your level driveway?" it was parked on a perfectly level CEMENT slab that was put down before the winter that will have garage on it next spring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caddypete Posted February 7, 2007 Report Share Posted February 7, 2007 Don't know where you live, but here in the snow belt of Ohio it is not unusual to accumalate 12-18" in a night. My car drives right thru it and pushes snow with the bumper at the same time, when I pull out of my driveway I can see where the bottom of the car dragged, and the snow is a few inches above that. I think you are trying to get a running start and jumping on the gas way too hard and causing the tires to spin. Just drive as there was no snow and see how your car goes thru it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logan Posted February 7, 2007 Report Share Posted February 7, 2007 Watch those snow banks... Years ago..I recall. Some robbers made a visit to a bank. The front plate left a perfect imprint in the snow bank of the plate number. Easy catch. Logan Diagnostic LLC www.airbagcrash.com www.logandieselusa.com www.ledfix.com www.ledfix.com/yukontaillightrepair.html www.ledfix.com/ledreplacements.html www.ledfix.com/j42385toolrental.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenMachine Posted February 7, 2007 Report Share Posted February 7, 2007 I'm working at a dirt road construction site at the moment, caddy rocks darn well with traction control off, you get almost no where with it on as traction control takes out all wheel spin. 6 inch+ snow falls lately. Just gotta do it gradually and use the cars momentum...and when you can have the front pointed where you want to go..... The message about reduced power pops up usually when your wheels are spinning and you rock it and the wheels are going to fast to shift from reverse to drive or drive to reverse etc w/o hurting something, since I've been rocking this sucker daily I've gotten good at knowing when they are spinning and when they are not. Trick is not spinning the wheels fast, that will dig you deeper. The Green's Machines 1998 Deville - high mileage, keeps on going, custom cat-back exhaust 2003 Seville - stock low mileage goodness! 2004 Grand Prix GTP CompG - Smaller supercharger pulley, Ported Exhaust Manifolds, Dyno tune, etc 1998 Firebird Formula - 408 LQ9 Stroker motor swap and all sorts of go fast stuff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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