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I will be glad when I have plenty of land to drive my Cadillacs on.

The public roadways are a mess.

I go out this evening to grab a bite to eat and pick up a little bit of rum

Some clown on a non harley was tail grabbing the back of my car,

Fools were weaving in and out like basket makers,

I came home and I'm drinking some rum.

I love being alone. :lol:

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We had a nice, quick road trip to visit for Thanksgiving. Mostly interstate, but the CTS did great both ways, and averaged around 26mpg each way. Good company, good weather, with some fog coming back. One trucker who seemed unskilled with their vehicle, but easily avoided. Took some photos and video, but none really panned out.

Headed back early to watch the Razorbacks play, although too bad they did not win.

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We had a nice, quick road trip to visit for Thanksgiving. Mostly interstate, but the CTS did great both ways, and averaged around 26mpg each way. Good company, good weather, with some fog coming back. One trucker who seemed unskilled with their vehicle, but easily avoided. Took some photos and video, but none really panned out.

Headed back early to watch the Razorbacks play, although too bad they did not win.

Are the razorbacks a football team?

I've never been much on sports or video games,

But I think most people would know the answer...

Hmmm, :unsure:

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26mpg?

I use to get four to nine on the highway,

I drove so fast in that old '79

There was not a lincoln on the roadway that could run with my Caddy-

some would be faster on the key but running I always won that

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On this particular round trip from home base to my parents' home my 96 STS 4.6L V8 got ~22 mpg, and my 92 STS 4.9L V8 around 24-25mpg. My experience in driving my route is that I never see the EPA rated mpg, but I find that if a vehicle can do the trip on around 1/2 tank of gas then it works for me.

I was surprised at how many people were using SUV's for their road trip, but I guess that's what they have. I think an Escalade rated 19mpg might do 17 mpg highway with me driving, so I guess that's only 5 more gallons of fuel each way compared with the CTS.

The route is a combo of 1 hour 2 or 4 lane at 55-70 mph, 2 hours of interstate at 75 mph and 1 hour of 2 lane blacktop at 55-65 mph with a few stops.

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On this particular round trip from home base to my parents' home my 96 STS 4.6L V8 got ~22 mpg, and my 92 STS 4.9L V8 around 24-25mpg. My experience in driving my route is that I never see the EPA rated mpg, but I find that if a vehicle can do the trip on around 1/2 tank of gas then it works for me.

I was surprised at how many people were using SUV's for their road trip, but I guess that's what they have. I think an Escalade rated 19mpg might do 17 mpg highway with me driving, so I guess that's only 5 more gallons of fuel each way compared with the CTS.

The route is a combo of 1 hour 2 or 4 lane at 55-70 mph, 2 hours of interstate at 75 mph and 1 hour of 2 lane blacktop at 55-65 mph with a few stops.

Well these days fools make so much promissary notes (money) heck a few hundred dollars is like a quarter- even poor people don't care about gas prices- me back then I love to burn as much gasoline as possible just for kicks, I had a glovebox full or 20s 50s 100s :lol:

That 4.9/4.5 will do 30+ highway in the 91 and down body but it will only go 112 :(

The '89 155hp 4.5 it was comical it would go to 99 and then 00 and then 01 :lol:

The '90 did the same thing,

The 91 actually read out three digits

HA!

I told the wife look we're going six

We was doing 106 down a back road :lol:

I miss her so much, just so much

Hotter women I've been with and all but darn-

Angela was really a somethign

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Fuel economy is what you see. Examples from my experience include:

  • I had a 1952 Henry J in high school. That car had a 2.2 liter flathead four, a clone of the WW II Jeep engine, and a 4.56 final drive ratio. I got something like 14 mpg overall until I installed an overdrive with a manual switch-in. After that, it got more like 20+ mpg overall, unless I was trying to keep up with my friend with his 1954 Corvette..
  • In 1968, I asked a minister what mileage he got with his VW, and he replied 17 mpg. He said that he could get 26 (the advertised mileage) with a really light foot but he didn't.
  • My fully tricked-out 327 in a 1964 Impala station wagon (about 4,000 pounds with me in it) got about 19 mpg overall, more on the highway. It had no heat riser butterfly.
  • I bought a new 1973 Caprice Estate (9-passenger station wagon) with the 235 hp 454 cid engine in September 1973, about two weeks before the OPEC embargo. It got 9 mpg city, 9 mpg highway. I found that with 45 psig in the tires, the primary float level in the carburetor about 2 mm low, premium gasoline and spark advanced as much as possible without pinging, and a really light foot at 55 mph (the cruise control couldn't do it), I could get 12 mpg. In the spring of 1974, the EPA mileage figures came out for late-model cars. My car: 9 mpg city, 9 mpg highway. I started trading and ended up with the 1969 (see below).
  • I had a Honda 90 cc motorcycle in 1975 that got 90 mpg city, 90 mpg highway, including 75 mph flat-out in the freeway.
  • My 1969 Chevrolet 9-passenger station wagon with a 400 hp 427 cid got 19 overall, more on the highway, something like 21 mpg. It weighed about 4,500 pounds.
  • I had three Honda 750 cc motorcyles: a 1969, a 1971, and a 1975. All of them got 38 mpg on the highway. The 1969 got 38 mpg in town. The 1971 and 1975 got more like 25 mpg in town.
  • My 1986 Ford Escort regularly got 38 mpg on the highway. It got something like 25 mpg in L.A. commuting.
  • My Suzuki motorcycle, a Bandit 1200 SX, gets about 25 mpg city, 35 mpg highway. When gas hit $3 a gallon I put EZ-Pass on it.
  • My 1997 ETC gets 18 mpg to a tank lately with a lead foot in heavy traffic commuting. It has a long history of 23 mpg overall for road trips, 18 mpg overall with mostly city driving.
I can't compete with Bruce's CTS fuel economy. The CTS also has performance numbers that are more than competitive with the 1990's Northstar cars. I think the CTS is the mainstream Cadillac of the foreseeable future.

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Nice list for comparison.

Yes, gearing makes a lot of difference. That's probably why the 92 STS did somewhat better than the 96 STS -- the 3.33:1 final drive in the 92 vs the 3.71:1 final drive in the 96, in otherwise fairly similar 4 speed auto's.

The CTS the benefit of a 5 speed auto, and 3.42:1 final drive, but yes is the quickest of the 3 vehicles also. My intuition is that the CTS mpg really should be better, but I don't have enough controls, like ensuring that all tests used the same gasoline formulation, outside temp, persons onboard, etc. I am just quoting what my mileage was over a similar route at the time. I recognize that some have posted 30+ mpg with Devilles or SLS's, but that was NOT with me driving lol.

Hopefully the 6speed automatics will do even better on fuel economy, since they can offer a wider gear spread. Also hopefully the 08 CTS 3.6L direct injection V6 will get the 6 speed; Otherwise a 2007 STS V8 6speed if discounted enough could make a nice choice for my next vehicle.

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[*]My 1997 ETC gets 18 mpg to a tank lately with a lead foot in heavy traffic commuting. It has a long history of 23 mpg overall for road trips, 18 mpg overall with mostly city driving.

Yeah, my ETC is about 16-17 (after the spark plug/wire change). I'm not terribly conservative with the right foot, though! :lol:

My wife and I saw the new Caddy commercial (with the free Navigation System), and I'm trying to talk her in to a new-ish Caddy. She drives an import (originally my idea), but after my experience I would definitely recommend a pre-certified.

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[*]My 1997 ETC gets 18 mpg to a tank lately with a lead foot in heavy traffic commuting. It has a long history of 23 mpg overall for road trips, 18 mpg overall with mostly city driving.

Yeah, my ETC is about 16-17 (after the spark plug/wire change). I'm not terribly conservative with the right foot, though! :lol:

My wife and I saw the new Caddy commercial (with the free Navigation System), and I'm trying to talk her in to a new-ish Caddy. She drives an import (originally my idea), but after my experience I would definitely recommend a pre-certified.

MM

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Try to get her to buy a Cadilac :)

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