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I want to remove the door trim panel on my 96 deville, but it seems like there are some pressure clips that are holding it on lock, and i cant get it out without damaging the panel. Have you guys ever removed the panel, like replacing speakers or something, and know how to not damage the panel. I want to replace my speakers.

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I will post the picture from my FSM tomorrow if I get a chance. I had both my front door panels off to replace the speaker/tweeter. Pretty fast and easy but if you don't have the procedure, you can damage it.

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There are two screws. I have the 1997 FSM, so I bow to the 1996 FSM.

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Can't help with a picture, the door panel removal is detailed in least 3 or 4 pics. Maybe Haynes has the pics you need.

The power window switch assembly is lifted with a flat blade like a 1/2" scraper at the rear of the assembly, don't force it, there is a clip that you must push in and up to dislodge. There is this warning: Before lifting switch plate from trim panel, insure that flat bladed tool has fully disengaged retention clip. Otherwise damage to switch plate or clip may occur. Removing the switch assembly has always been a struggle for me. Be careful if it is cold out, the vinyl can crack easily and you will be flexing it quite a bit.

Gently pry the rear edge of the inside handle cover to disengage the retaining tab, remove screw.

Gently pry the outer edge of 2 pull strap caps away from trim plate and pull cap away from the pull strap, remove the two screws.

Gently pull inboard to disengage trim fastener retaining outside rearview mirror trim cover. Use a flat blade or trim tool

Use a flat blade or trim tool around the perimeter of the door to dislodge the retainers, it looks like there are 4 or 5

Lift the door panel do dislodge the retaining tabs at the top

This is detailed on pages 10-6-3 to 10-6-6 of the FSM

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From the 1997 FSM, pages 10-6-5 with a figure on 10-6-6 (included below) -- Bodybyfisher, please let cadillac360 know what doesn't apply to his 1996.

DOOR TRIM PANEL - DEVILLE

Front Door

Figure 7

Remove or Disconnect

  1. Power window swittch assembly. Refer to Power Window Switches.
  2. Door trim plate. Refer to Door Trim Plate.
  3. Gentlypull inboard to disengage trim fastener retaining outside rearview mirror trim cover.
  4. Two screws.
  5. Door trim panel by lifting up and out to disengage hooks from door.
  6. Electrical connectors.
Install or Connect
  1. Electrical connectors.
  2. Door trim panel. Alighn hooks with door, push in and down on trim panel.
  3. Two screws.
  4. Outside rearview mirror trim cover with trim fastner.
  5. Door trim plate.
  6. Power window switch assembly.
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Looks good Jim

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I figures it out. I thought there were 5-6 plastic pressure clip thingys, but it just turns out as soon as you unscrew everything it just lifts straight up, no pressure clips. (ahem) Haynes was wrong (ahem). Thinking about throwing it away! :( Thanks anyway.

Ohh and as for the speakers, I had a set of infinty 6.5s, but i soon figured out it was the wrong size, i guessed wrong, but i only paid 20 bucks for em. I think the size is 5 1/4, am i right?

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I figures it out. I thought there were 5-6 plastic pressure clip thingys, but it just turns out as soon as you unscrew everything it just lifts straight up, no pressure clips. (ahem) Haynes was wrong (ahem). Thinking about throwing it away! :( Thanks anyway.

Ohh and as for the speakers, I had a set of infinty 6.5s, but i soon figured out it was the wrong size, i guessed wrong, but i only paid 20 bucks for em. I think the size is 5 1/4, am i right?

I believe mine had that plastic snaps around the perimeter, but that might be my wife's 2002 Monte Carlo, I am thinking about, it all begins to run together

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Can't help with a picture, the door panel removal is detailed in least 3 or 4 pics. Maybe Haynes has the pics you need.

HOLY CRAP BbF! Did you just recommend a Haynes?

Regards,

Warren :lol::lol::lol:

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LOL

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I figures it out. I thought there were 5-6 plastic pressure clip thingys, but it just turns out as soon as you unscrew everything it just lifts straight up, no pressure clips. (ahem) Haynes was wrong (ahem).

I just wanted to take a moment to apologize for having had some fun at your expense regarding the FSM/Haynes thing.

Glad to see you have a sense of humor. :D

Regards,

Warren

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Glad to see you have a sense of humor. :D

Regards,

Warren

I've always had a sense of humor, you guys took me way to seriously when I called Fisher a ****, or as it says now a ****. Looks like I really took it to him in that post now.

Hey, are my door spearkers 5 1/4?

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You see, kidding or not, calling people names is NOT what we do here. If you do a search you will see it does NOT happen.

Since you are new to this board, let me clarify why we are all over your Haynes. As you can see, you could do VERY LITTLE without reference to the FACTORY SERVICE MANUAL. You come here and you push the HAYNES. We have been here for many years and know the value of the FSM and that the Haynes is cursory at best. But you insisted to go to another thread and zing us about how we didn't like the Haynes to a NEW MEMBER on his FIRST post, in spite of the fact that you are new here and we noted how the Haynes is cursory. (but these guys don't like them)

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We do not want incorrect information being disseminated on this board for future members to find. We make it perfectly clear that Haynes is for oil changers and general repairs, and that the FSM is for in-depth analysis and diagnostics. Disinformation will be met by corrections and resistance.

Let me repeat that you DID need info from the FSM including info regarding CKT 754 and door panel. And not only that but your requests were not even nice, they were commanding and demanding. Review your statements.

Instead of coming here and getting the lay of the land like you are suppose to do when you are new to a forum, you immediately started disputing our opinions and experience and name calling instead of trusting us and being open minded. This type of conflict does NOT happen often, you are the first to come here and create controversy in a LONG time. Let me be clear here that our opinion on the FSM has been PROVEN based on the information you have needed.

Let me add one more thing, while we have many many talented members here that will help you, if you look you will see that I have 8000 posts (scotty/bbf), many of which have FSM scans and I spend TONS of time helping members in need. During your door panel thread, I helped you, but did not go out of my way as I normally would for a member in need and would have posted those 4 photos... That is what your bull in the china shop attitude and name calling does (kidding or not kidding), it does not get over the top help from me. I will tell you this, members here will not help you if you are have attitude problems, I have recently seen the membership provide very little help for a problematic member. Lets try this again, Welcome aboard. You can find a LOT of information in the archives using the search function.

Bruce please remove the name calling in Post #14 which this individual wrote AGAIN even after seeing that is was removed.

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Well..........

I came here for help, and you were very nice to give it to me. But as I can see this forum is not for me, it is overly-overly moderated. A bunch of old-timers. That is no where near a bad word, especially since it was all in good fun. Anyways thanks for your help, and I have never been so glad to not sponsor a site. Ohh and if you use your amazing search ability, maybe you can see that as soon as I mentioned the word Haynes, I got jumped on and made fun of for not buying a 130$ book. You will not hear from me again so be glad. This whole forum needs to lighten up a little. If you even get a chance to read this before it is moderated.

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Not surprising that you would move on given your strong opinions. Good FUN? I disagree name calling and giving erroneous opinions to new members is NOT good fun. Over moderated, I beg to differ, new members that dispute long running conventions because they don't know what they don't know, are called on it. Especially when they give out the same info they were called on to NEW members and just stomp all over us. Disinformation is dangerous and it is addressed, that is NOT over moderation. So what you are saying is that its OK for a new member to WASTE $20, and then go out and spend MORE money on the FSM after he realizes the Haynes is cursory?

$130 for a FSM, no you were informed that it was on sale for $65!

Ranger informed you of that fact and you can get one on EBAY:

They are running a 1/2 price sale now. Full price is about $135. They are about 3000 pages (2 volumns). For a '96, check Ebay first. You can probably find one for a better price there on one that old.

Good Luck, feel free to return, this is your choice to leave. Continued name calling is not proper behavior or good fun.

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Well..........

I came here for help, and you were very nice to give it to me. But as I can see this forum is not for me, it is overly-overly moderated. A bunch of old-timers.

Well yes, some of us are old (cough, cough). Why not take advantage of our experience? And for free, no less!

It's just plain silly, however, to call this place over-moderated. Heck, sometimes I look forward to a post by Bruce just to be certain he's still among us!

A neighbor down the block seems to subscribe to every J.C. Whitney bolt-on available for his Nissan. He is not "old." Neither is he Cadillac material.

Regards,

Warren

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For motorcycles, I have been known to use a Clymer's, because they essentially replicate the service manual. But, I have never seen anything close to the GM FSMs. I buy them when I get the car, new or used. I have a bunch of Chilton's laying around, but they are mainly good for the tables of data. Their procedures are next to workthless for anything you can't do in a half hour, and are best when used as a counterpoint to the FSM. For example, the special engines on the Allante aren't listed except as 155 hp VIN 5 engines in the 1990 Chilton. But, they have the firing order, fluid capacities, and tolerances for valve gear and bearings, etc. The Haynes manuals sold in the auto parts stores are magazines, IMHO.

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I bought my most recent Eldorado on Wednesday, September 6th. I picked it up on Friday, September 9th.

Before I went to bed Friday evening I ordered the FSM.

Regards,

Warren

EDIT: Opps, sorry. Thinking back on it, I waited 'till Sunday to order the FSM. What was I thinking?

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I have found the Factory Service Manuals very informative, and have been caught reading them when my Cadillac was doing fine. I do not have a CTS FSM, but it is under warranty for a while yet, so I would just take it to the Dealer if there were a problem. Mostly it just goes about its business effectively and efficiently.

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I have found the Factory Service Manuals very informative, and have been caught reading them when my Cadillac was doing fine.

Yes, if I recall BodybyFisher once said he kept his manuals on the night table for evening reading. :lol:

Of course, I do as well. :P

Regards,

Warren

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I have found the Factory Service Manuals very informative, and have been caught reading them when my Cadillac was doing fine.

Yes, if I recall BodybyFisher once said he kept his manuals on the night table for evening reading. :lol:

Of course, I do as well. :P

Regards,

Warren

No, I believe Mike has 2 sets, one on his night table and the other in his bathroom. :P

Sorry Mike, couldn't help myself. :D

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No, I believe Mike has 2 sets, one on his night table and the other in his bathroom. :P

Sorry Mike, couldn't help myself. :D

I swear I'm not kidding you . . . . a college buddy of mine actually has a bookcase and a magazine rack in his bathroom. REALLY!

Mike would likely use Haynes for toilet paper if it weren't so expensive. :lol:

Regards,

Warren :P

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