CALI2NY Posted September 24, 2009 Report Share Posted September 24, 2009 where is it? by the way its a 97 deville Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cadillac Jim Posted September 24, 2009 Report Share Posted September 24, 2009 The thermostat on a 1997 Cadillac is on the rear of the engine (driver's side). Follow the upper radiator hose from the top right (passenger side) across the front of the engine over the fans, then back and down to the thermostat housing. -- Click Here for CaddyInfo page on "How To" Read Your OBD Codes-- Click Here for my personal page to download my OBD code list as an Excel file, plus other Cadillac data -- See my CaddyInfo car blogs: 2011 CTS-V, 1997 ETC Yes, I was Jims_97_ETC before I changed cars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CALI2NY Posted September 25, 2009 Author Report Share Posted September 25, 2009 The thermostat on a 1997 Cadillac is on the rear of the engine (driver's side). Follow the upper radiator hose from the top right (passenger side) across the front of the engine over the fans, then back and down to the thermostat housing. does any one have a pic? im sorry i cant find it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BodybyFisher Posted September 25, 2009 Report Share Posted September 25, 2009 The stat is in this photo in the bottom center, the circle (stat) within the bigger circle (water pump cover). Pre-1995 - DTC codes OBD1 >> 1996 and newer - DTC codes OBD2 >> https://www.obd-codes.com/trouble_codes/gm/obd_codes.htm How to check for codes Caddyinfo How To Technical Archive >> http://www.caddyinfo.com/wordpress/cadillac-how-to-faq/ Cadillac History & Specifications Year by Year http://www.motorera.com/cadillac/index.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JONNMONKEY Posted September 26, 2009 Report Share Posted September 26, 2009 The stat is in this photo in the bottom center, the circle (stat) within the bigger circle (water pump cover). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JONNMONKEY Posted September 26, 2009 Report Share Posted September 26, 2009 Any advice on changing the thermostat? Pitfall's?~~~Thank's Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BodybyFisher Posted September 26, 2009 Report Share Posted September 26, 2009 Any advice on changing the thermostat? Pitfall's?~~~Thank's You may need to purchase a new water pump cover it has been redesigned and the new seal does not fit the old cover. You need a 1/4" ratchet handle or breaker bar to release the water pump tensioner Dont forget to buy the thermostat seal, I dont believe it comes with the stat Clean the bolt with a hole in it while you are in the area Dont flush the engine with water it throws off the coolant concentration and its difficult to get back to 50/50 Look at the by-pas hose to see if its ok and check clamp tightness Pre-1995 - DTC codes OBD1 >> 1996 and newer - DTC codes OBD2 >> https://www.obd-codes.com/trouble_codes/gm/obd_codes.htm How to check for codes Caddyinfo How To Technical Archive >> http://www.caddyinfo.com/wordpress/cadillac-how-to-faq/ Cadillac History & Specifications Year by Year http://www.motorera.com/cadillac/index.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JONNMONKEY Posted September 26, 2009 Report Share Posted September 26, 2009 Thank you~~~Coolant tab's~~~I've read yes~~6~~none ~~~3~~~small~~~and bigger?~~~Can I ask your advice on that as well~~~thank's Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CALI2NY Posted September 26, 2009 Author Report Share Posted September 26, 2009 Any advice on changing the thermostat? Pitfall's?~~~Thank's You may need to purchase a new water pump cover it has been redesigned and the new seal does not fit the old cover. You need a 1/4" ratchet handle or breaker bar to release the water pump tensioner Dont forget to buy the thermostat seal, I dont believe it comes with the stat Clean the bolt with a hole in it while you are in the area Dont flush the engine with water it throws off the coolant concentration and its difficult to get back to 50/50 Look at the by-pas hose to see if its ok and check clamp tightness ur the man thanks alot homie.i will try and change it tomorrow good lookin on the pics and info Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BodybyFisher Posted September 26, 2009 Report Share Posted September 26, 2009 Thank you~~~Coolant tab's~~~I've read yes~~6~~none ~~~3~~~small~~~and bigger?~~~Can I ask your advice on that as well~~~thank's If you totally drain your system, use six, if you just do the stat with minimal coolant loss use four (someone confirm this for me) Pre-1995 - DTC codes OBD1 >> 1996 and newer - DTC codes OBD2 >> https://www.obd-codes.com/trouble_codes/gm/obd_codes.htm How to check for codes Caddyinfo How To Technical Archive >> http://www.caddyinfo.com/wordpress/cadillac-how-to-faq/ Cadillac History & Specifications Year by Year http://www.motorera.com/cadillac/index.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BodybyFisher Posted September 26, 2009 Report Share Posted September 26, 2009 One more thing guys, use an AC DELCO stat, not aftermarket By the way, you do not need to remove the water pump cover to do the thermostat, only to do the water pump, so my inclusion of the COVER and COVER seal above was wrong... Pre-1995 - DTC codes OBD1 >> 1996 and newer - DTC codes OBD2 >> https://www.obd-codes.com/trouble_codes/gm/obd_codes.htm How to check for codes Caddyinfo How To Technical Archive >> http://www.caddyinfo.com/wordpress/cadillac-how-to-faq/ Cadillac History & Specifications Year by Year http://www.motorera.com/cadillac/index.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cadillac Jim Posted September 26, 2009 Report Share Posted September 26, 2009 Make sure you don't put the thermostat in backward. It's easy to do and not pleasant to discover. -- Click Here for CaddyInfo page on "How To" Read Your OBD Codes-- Click Here for my personal page to download my OBD code list as an Excel file, plus other Cadillac data -- See my CaddyInfo car blogs: 2011 CTS-V, 1997 ETC Yes, I was Jims_97_ETC before I changed cars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JONNMONKEY Posted September 26, 2009 Report Share Posted September 26, 2009 Thermostat is to big ~~~Headed to the part's house for the updated version I believe was spoken of as they say they have it~~~JM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JONNMONKEY Posted September 26, 2009 Report Share Posted September 26, 2009 The new thermostat has a pin on one half that's loose , a small deal with a small head on it. The old one didn't have this relief deal or whatever it is~~~Does it go on top or bottem?~~~Thank's to all~~~JM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BodybyFisher Posted September 26, 2009 Report Share Posted September 26, 2009 Thermostat is to big ~~~Headed to the part's house for the updated version I believe was spoken of as they say they have it~~~JM I am not sure what you are saying but there is no updated version of the thermostat. There is an update to the water pump cover, but you dont need to remove the water pump cover to do the thermostat, I mis-spoke above. The stat has a long tail on it that sticks into the coolant. Here are a few interesting photos Where thermostat goes into the water pump cover Another View Old and new covers, with thermostat location revealed AC DELCO stat Photo of stat sticking into the coolant passage, (this photo excites me for some reason, ) Photo of stat adapter in place Here is an interesting photo of my 1/4 inch breaker bar in the water pump tensioner, you lift to release the pressure on the belt Pre-1995 - DTC codes OBD1 >> 1996 and newer - DTC codes OBD2 >> https://www.obd-codes.com/trouble_codes/gm/obd_codes.htm How to check for codes Caddyinfo How To Technical Archive >> http://www.caddyinfo.com/wordpress/cadillac-how-to-faq/ Cadillac History & Specifications Year by Year http://www.motorera.com/cadillac/index.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JONNMONKEY Posted September 26, 2009 Report Share Posted September 26, 2009 The wrong thermostat was special ordered by a new part's person but they had the correct one. The littlegold or brass looking deal is in the picture you have put up of the thermostat in place. It look's like an earing stud they put in gal's ear's when they first get pierced~~~It's loose~~it wiggle's in and out~~~I'll put it like your picture is ~~~Thank's alot~~~Got to be in Houston later and I was just doing this as the car has 94000plus mile's and I replaced hose's, coolant , etc.~~~Really appreciate the ~~~well, everything~~~JM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BodybyFisher Posted September 26, 2009 Report Share Posted September 26, 2009 The wrong thermostat was special ordered by a new part's person but they had the correct one. The littlegold or brass looking deal is in the picture you have put up of the thermostat in place. It look's like an earing stud they put in gal's ear's when they first get pierced~~~It's loose~~it wiggle's in and out~~~I'll put it like your picture is ~~~Thank's alot~~~Got to be in Houston later and I was just doing this as the car has 94000plus mile's and I replaced hose's, coolant , etc.~~~Really appreciate the ~~~well, everything~~~JM Hope it works out for you. Glad we could help. Consider being a supporting member, it has a few perks and you help support this terrific resource for your Cadillac Pre-1995 - DTC codes OBD1 >> 1996 and newer - DTC codes OBD2 >> https://www.obd-codes.com/trouble_codes/gm/obd_codes.htm How to check for codes Caddyinfo How To Technical Archive >> http://www.caddyinfo.com/wordpress/cadillac-how-to-faq/ Cadillac History & Specifications Year by Year http://www.motorera.com/cadillac/index.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JONNMONKEY Posted September 27, 2009 Report Share Posted September 27, 2009 What is a supporting member? I'll do it!~~~JM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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JONNMONKEY Posted September 27, 2009 Report Share Posted September 27, 2009 ok~~~JM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BodybyFisher Posted September 27, 2009 Report Share Posted September 27, 2009 Thanks Jim Pre-1995 - DTC codes OBD1 >> 1996 and newer - DTC codes OBD2 >> https://www.obd-codes.com/trouble_codes/gm/obd_codes.htm How to check for codes Caddyinfo How To Technical Archive >> http://www.caddyinfo.com/wordpress/cadillac-how-to-faq/ Cadillac History & Specifications Year by Year http://www.motorera.com/cadillac/index.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coolnesss Posted October 2, 2010 Report Share Posted October 2, 2010 I'm putting a new thermostat in my 2002 ETC and have a couple of questions. 1. Can I put the tablets down into the housing before I put in the thermostat? I assume I grind them up some first, right? 2. Before I purchased the car, in January 2007, a Cadillac dealer changed the Dexcool. My memory is that the dealers stopped using them at some point generally. Can I assume that they didn't put in the tabs, and put in the 5 in the package? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cadillac Jim Posted October 2, 2010 Report Share Posted October 2, 2010 I would rotate the thermostat when you put it in so that the brackets around the sensing element (see photo five in post #15) so that it isn't in the flow of coolant. That's just me. Check the look and smell of the coolant. It's been three of its rated five years. Now may be a good time to change it. If you do, you can bring it to 50-50 and use five sealant tabs now. I would put them in the radiator hose, not behind the thermostat, only because that's what is recommended. -- Click Here for CaddyInfo page on "How To" Read Your OBD Codes-- Click Here for my personal page to download my OBD code list as an Excel file, plus other Cadillac data -- See my CaddyInfo car blogs: 2011 CTS-V, 1997 ETC Yes, I was Jims_97_ETC before I changed cars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ranger Posted October 3, 2010 Report Share Posted October 3, 2010 Before I purchased the car, in January 2007, a Cadillac dealer changed the Dexcool. My memory is that the dealers stopped using them at some point generally. Can I assume that they didn't put in the tabs, and put in the 5 in the package? Since GM stopped using them, the dealer most likely did not put them in. Before I quit using them I had some warranty work done that required opening the cooling system. I gave the dealer the tabs and told them to install them and they did not, even at my request. Dealers follow GM procedures. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cad1497 Posted August 20, 2014 Report Share Posted August 20, 2014 hello folks this is my first post,i have a 97 deville 4.6 northstar and I just replaced thermostat.is there any way that air can be purged from system.the running temp seems to have went up about 10 degrees. Ive read about air being a problem but nothing about how to remove it... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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