trashtruck Posted August 30, 2017 Report Share Posted August 30, 2017 Hi all. I'm having some trouble with my new to me caddy. I recently posted that my distributor went south and I needed to replace it. I'm still struggling with the timing but I'm getting closer. The distributor has all new components and is drop in ready. The reason I'm having trouble timing it is the idle won't stay steady when warm. When cold car starts right up and idles @ 800 rpm. When warm and I can get it to start the idle drops and fluctuates between 500 & 700 rpms. I also noticed that rpms surge when I hold my foot steady on the gas pedal at any rpm. I pulled the following codes from the dic: p031, history, shorted map sensor, p053, history, distributor signal or reference signal interrupt from icm, p065, current, sps signal problem (cruise control). Also the flange rotted off the "y" pipe so currently there is no exhaust connected. At first I thought idle control motor then started to think fuel pressure regulator but now think it may be wiring or pcm? what do you all think? thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldCadTech Posted August 30, 2017 Report Share Posted August 30, 2017 Since the vehicle starts and runs fine in open loop, & the flange rotted off the exhaust I would suspect the computer is wondering what to do, since there is no o2 sensor information when the engine should be in closed loop. Correct the exhaust problem and retest. The engine needs exhaust flow, including some kind of back-pressure to wake up the o2 sensors. Clear the codes before you restart the engine after the exhaust repair so you get fresh information. THERE IS ALWAYS ENOUGH TIME TO DO THE JOB RIGHT - THERE IS NEVER ENOUGH TIME TO DO THE JOB AGAIN !!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trashtruck Posted August 30, 2017 Author Report Share Posted August 30, 2017 thanks. I will be working on the exhaust next. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trashtruck Posted August 30, 2017 Author Report Share Posted August 30, 2017 SOLVED. one of the plastic vacuum lines had a crack causing erratic idle. Now timed great @ 9.5 btdc and idling smoothly @ 625 rpm. Thank you for your help. I now get to spend the rest of the week playing with the exhaust. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldCadTech Posted August 30, 2017 Report Share Posted August 30, 2017 When you are working on the exhaust you will be glad it is NOT the North*. Good job finding the vacuum leak THERE IS ALWAYS ENOUGH TIME TO DO THE JOB RIGHT - THERE IS NEVER ENOUGH TIME TO DO THE JOB AGAIN !!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rockfangd Posted August 31, 2017 Report Share Posted August 31, 2017 Was going to suggest vacuum leak, glad you got it. Sure sounded like a leak. That idle was too high. your idle now is normal GM FAN FOREVER Nice, clean, luxury= fine automobile Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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