paulier3 Posted May 26, 2011 Report Share Posted May 26, 2011 hello everyone im new to owning caddy's so any info will help.. I have a 2005 cts with 81000 miles on it and When I'm at a stop the engine jerks, it does it with the a/c on and off and only when i'm at a light or stop sign never when it's in park or when i'm moving. I've taken it to two shops and both times it never does it when i'm there. any suggestions would be great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruce Nunnally Posted May 26, 2011 Report Share Posted May 26, 2011 Do you mean the car moves, or do you feel the engine is running unevenly at idle? Bruce 2023 Cadillac CT4-V Blackwing Follow me on: Twitter Instagram Youtube Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulier3 Posted May 26, 2011 Author Report Share Posted May 26, 2011 the actual car moves. I'll be sitting there and it feels like someone kicks the side of the car really hard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BodybyFisher Posted May 26, 2011 Report Share Posted May 26, 2011 Does this KICK happen just once or is it a rythmic kick like a miss? Does the check engine light flash or is it on when this happens? This is an odd problem that it would occur only at idle and not when you accelerate What is the RPM at idle?, if it is very low you might get a lope Has the throttle body been cleaned? Have you checked to see if any DTC codes have been set? Pre-1995 - DTC codes OBD1 >> 1996 and newer - DTC codes OBD2 >> https://www.obd-codes.com/trouble_codes/gm/obd_codes.htm How to check for codes Caddyinfo How To Technical Archive >> http://www.caddyinfo.com/wordpress/cadillac-how-to-faq/ Cadillac History & Specifications Year by Year http://www.motorera.com/cadillac/index.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulier3 Posted May 26, 2011 Author Report Share Posted May 26, 2011 well i just purchased the car in january and since ive had both catylitic converter replaced the check engine light came on and the only code was for that.this does only happen at idle as far as the throttle body im thinking its never been cleaned Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulier3 Posted May 26, 2011 Author Report Share Posted May 26, 2011 the check engiine light hasent come on nor does it flash Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BodybyFisher Posted May 27, 2011 Report Share Posted May 27, 2011 Is this a repetitive 'kick' or are you only getting one KICK? Anotherwords, when its idling does it miss or kick over and over? Pre-1995 - DTC codes OBD1 >> 1996 and newer - DTC codes OBD2 >> https://www.obd-codes.com/trouble_codes/gm/obd_codes.htm How to check for codes Caddyinfo How To Technical Archive >> http://www.caddyinfo.com/wordpress/cadillac-how-to-faq/ Cadillac History & Specifications Year by Year http://www.motorera.com/cadillac/index.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulier3 Posted May 27, 2011 Author Report Share Posted May 27, 2011 Is this a repetitive 'kick' or are you only getting one KICK? Anotherwords, when its idling does it miss or kick over and over? when i idle it happens about once every one to two minutes. when Im idling Im at about 550 rpm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulier3 Posted May 27, 2011 Author Report Share Posted May 27, 2011 when Im idling Im at 550 rpm. and it kicks about once every one to two minutes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BodybyFisher Posted May 27, 2011 Report Share Posted May 27, 2011 Is this a repetitive 'kick' or are you only getting one KICK? Anotherwords, when its idling does it miss or kick over and over? when i idle it happens about once every one to two minutes. when Im idling Im at about 550 rpm OK that is what I thought, its not a repetitive miss, its a random miss Check plugs and coil boots for carbon tracking. When were the plugs changed last? How is your fuel, could you have water in it? 550 rpm at idle in gear seems low, check the spec and see what it should be, my guess is 625 in gear but I may be wrong Thoroughly clean your throttle body and throttle plate and if it has an IAC clean it, its possible that its very dirty and the idle air compensator (IAC) has reached its limit to affect the idle. When did you change your fuel filter last? Put a fuel pressure gage on and observe what happens when you get the kick. For that matter check the fuel pressure to make sure its up to spec. Because of the infrequency of this kick, it won't be easy to find Pre-1995 - DTC codes OBD1 >> 1996 and newer - DTC codes OBD2 >> https://www.obd-codes.com/trouble_codes/gm/obd_codes.htm How to check for codes Caddyinfo How To Technical Archive >> http://www.caddyinfo.com/wordpress/cadillac-how-to-faq/ Cadillac History & Specifications Year by Year http://www.motorera.com/cadillac/index.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulier3 Posted May 27, 2011 Author Report Share Posted May 27, 2011 well supposedly the plug s are new when i bought the car a couple of months ago but you never know what the dealer really does especially carmax i am going to try your suggestions we'll see what happens thanks for all your help Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BodybyFisher Posted May 28, 2011 Report Share Posted May 28, 2011 Are you saying that the dealer changed the plugs?, that is important. Sometimes 'garage' mechanics will put dielectric grease on the plug boots. Other Cadillac models have plug boots that are impregnated with dielectric grease, to use additional dielectric grease can cause a miss as the high voltage will find a path to ground with the additional grease. The other issue that can occur is that the AC DELCO plugs can occasionally lose their platinum pads. When that happens, the gap will get large very quickly, so you could have 7 plugs gapped at the correct gap and the 8th plug with a gap much larger, that can cause an occasional miss Do you know how many miles are on the plugs? Try a bottle of Techron but use it per the directions on the bottle (full tank). It is sanctioned by GM and it will clean your injectors, see this link http://www.chevron.com/products/prodserv/additives/tcp.aspx The other think I would look at if I were you would be to look at your under hood breakers and fuses. Pull each one and look at the prongs, any white or green corrosion use electrical contact cleaner and clean the prongs and the socket. Especially look at the injector and fuel pump fuses. Do you know how to clean your throttle body? Pre-1995 - DTC codes OBD1 >> 1996 and newer - DTC codes OBD2 >> https://www.obd-codes.com/trouble_codes/gm/obd_codes.htm How to check for codes Caddyinfo How To Technical Archive >> http://www.caddyinfo.com/wordpress/cadillac-how-to-faq/ Cadillac History & Specifications Year by Year http://www.motorera.com/cadillac/index.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BodybyFisher Posted May 28, 2011 Report Share Posted May 28, 2011 One more thing occurred to me. Check your alternator output voltage at idle. If it drops for any reason it will fail to supply sufficient current to drive the coils and cause a drop out. A slipping belt or questionable battery connections or a bad battery should be looked into. Put a volt meter on your battery to see what the charging rate is at idle then with the lights on, wipers on, rear defroster on, Pre-1995 - DTC codes OBD1 >> 1996 and newer - DTC codes OBD2 >> https://www.obd-codes.com/trouble_codes/gm/obd_codes.htm How to check for codes Caddyinfo How To Technical Archive >> http://www.caddyinfo.com/wordpress/cadillac-how-to-faq/ Cadillac History & Specifications Year by Year http://www.motorera.com/cadillac/index.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulier3 Posted May 29, 2011 Author Report Share Posted May 29, 2011 the plugs carmax said they changed i have to find out exactly what they did. the plugs should only have about 3k on them. i check the fuses and breakers n all look good. now the throttle body i can probably clean um pretty good with those kind of things but if you got any directions. man that would be great Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Franco Posted August 5, 2011 Report Share Posted August 5, 2011 Hello Paul, Did you ever narrow it down? I am having the same problem right now. It feel like the car is being kicked! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulier3 Posted August 6, 2011 Author Report Share Posted August 6, 2011 Hey Franco actually we did figure it out it was a bad ignition coil which then caused the spark plug to go bad. I hope this helps u out I know its frustrating when something goes wrong n u can't figure it out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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