EDWEG Posted June 9, 2010 Report Share Posted June 9, 2010 2004 DTS w/103K miles, recent plug change, on long road trip started coming up with "Service Stability Sys" while driving. No other symptoms. Can remove by touching Info button on right of DIC; but, will periodically re-appear. I re-set, then will come back later. I (accidentally) cleared all codes, ran errands (SSS came back once), and re-looked at codes, which were ABS C1287 HISTORY and IPC U1016 HISTORY, no current codes. What reason(s)/faults cause the SSS? A must fix; or, an annoyance? Can I take 7K trip w/o worry? I know IPC is loss of comm w/PCM - no problem. ABS = brakes; what does C1287 (HISTORY) really say? Front brakes were replace at 88k w/rotors turned, etc. Rears were fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ranger Posted June 10, 2010 Report Share Posted June 10, 2010 Get your code definitions here and post them with the codes. http://myweb.accessus.net/~090/dtcobd2.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OynxSTS Posted June 10, 2010 Report Share Posted June 10, 2010 C1287 is the classic code for a bad steering wheel sensor. It will almost always be in history status since once the computer senses an error with that sensor it turns off the Stability system and the sensor is no longer "in play" Replace the sensor at the bottom of your steering column and all with be fine... The sensor will cost around $80 but it does need the removal of the steering column to get to it. I would guess about $200 at the dealer. It is safe to drive, but know that your stability system is off line. Easin' down the highway in a new Cadillac, I had a fine fox in front, I had three more in the back ZZTOP, I'm Bad I'm Nationwide Greg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EDWEG Posted June 10, 2010 Author Report Share Posted June 10, 2010 Get your code definitions here and post them with the codes. http://myweb.accessus.net/~090/dtcobd2.html OK, looked up the reference and confirmed that the ABS prefix is Antilock Brake System (that I knew). The code further breaks down as follows: C = Chassis 1 = MFG (Manufacturer) 2 = Fuel & Air Metering (Injector) 87 = Fault (00 to 99) So, where does that leave me? How does the ABS relate to the fuel/air injector? What do I have here to tell me what the problem is? More importantly - how do I determine what's triggering the 'Service Stabillity Sys" to trip on? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EDWEG Posted June 10, 2010 Author Report Share Posted June 10, 2010 C1287 is the classic code for a bad steering wheel sensor. It will almost always be in history status since once the computer senses an error with that sensor it turns off the Stability system and the sensor is no longer "in play" Replace the sensor at the bottom of your steering column and all with be fine... The sensor will cost around $80 but it does need the removal of the steering column to get to it. I would guess about $200 at the dealer. It is safe to drive, but know that your stability system is off line. Thank you so much. That does help clear up the mystery meaning behind the code; and, gives sound advice on how to correct/fix it. Thanks again! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EDWEG Posted June 10, 2010 Author Report Share Posted June 10, 2010 C1287 is the classic code for a bad steering wheel sensor. It will almost always be in history status since once the computer senses an error with that sensor it turns off the Stability system and the sensor is no longer "in play" Replace the sensor at the bottom of your steering column and all with be fine... The sensor will cost around $80 but it does need the removal of the steering column to get to it. I would guess about $200 at the dealer. It is safe to drive, but know that your stability system is off line. Thank you so much. That does help clear up the mystery meaning behind the code; and, gives sound advice on how to correct/fix it. Thanks again! BTW, this also made me think about the sensor situation a little more. I understand that there are four of them place about 15 minutes apart from each other. Can't they just be reset with a magnetic tool (like you do with the TPMS); or, do they all just have to be replaced because they're mis-reading? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ranger Posted June 11, 2010 Report Share Posted June 11, 2010 Get your code definitions here and post them with the codes. http://myweb.accessus.net/~090/dtcobd2.html OK, looked up the reference and confirmed that the ABS prefix is Antilock Brake System (that I knew). The code further breaks down as follows: C = Chassis 1 = MFG (Manufacturer) 2 = Fuel & Air Metering (Injector) 87 = Fault (00 to 99) So, where does that leave me? How does the ABS relate to the fuel/air injector? What do I have here to tell me what the problem is? More importantly - how do I determine what's triggering the 'Service Stabillity Sys" to trip on? I don't know where you got all this, but you're doing it wrong. For future reference, got to the link provided. Your code was a "C" (Chassis) code. Scroll down to chassis codes and click on that. All the chassis codes will be displayed. Scroll down to C1287 and you find Steering Sensor Rate Malfunction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EDWEG Posted June 11, 2010 Author Report Share Posted June 11, 2010 Get your code definitions here and post them with the codes. http://myweb.accessus.net/~090/dtcobd2.html OK, looked up the reference and confirmed that the ABS prefix is Antilock Brake System (that I knew). The code further breaks down as follows: C = Chassis 1 = MFG (Manufacturer) 2 = Fuel & Air Metering (Injector) 87 = Fault (00 to 99) So, where does that leave me? How does the ABS relate to the fuel/air injector? What do I have here to tell me what the problem is? More importantly - how do I determine what's triggering the 'Service Stabillity Sys" to trip on? I don't know where you got all this, but you're doing it wrong. For future reference, got to the link provided. Your code was a "C" (Chassis) code. Scroll down to chassis codes and click on that. All the chassis codes will be displayed. Scroll down to C1287 and you find Steering Sensor Rate Malfunction. Thanks, it all came from the link referenced; though, I did miss the subsequent links. Now, do you know if this is something which can be reset, like with the TPMS, or do the sensors have to be replaced? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texas Jim Posted June 11, 2010 Report Share Posted June 11, 2010 Thanks, it all came from the link referenced; though, I did miss the subsequent links. Now, do you know if this is something which can be reset, like with the TPMS, or do the sensors have to be replaced? The steering sensor will have to be replaced. There is no "RESET" for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OynxSTS Posted June 13, 2010 Report Share Posted June 13, 2010 Thanks, it all came from the link referenced; though, I did miss the subsequent links. Now, do you know if this is something which can be reset, like with the TPMS, or do the sensors have to be replaced? I have no idea what you are talking about. There is ONE steering wheel sensor. It is at the bottom of the steering column, it is about the size of a small donut and it cost about $80. The steering sensor will have to be replaced. There is no "RESET" for it. Texas Jim is Correct. Easin' down the highway in a new Cadillac, I had a fine fox in front, I had three more in the back ZZTOP, I'm Bad I'm Nationwide Greg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EDWEG Posted July 12, 2010 Author Report Share Posted July 12, 2010 Thanks, it all came from the link referenced; though, I did miss the subsequent links. Now, do you know if this is something which can be reset, like with the TPMS, or do the sensors have to be replaced? I have no idea what you are talking about. There is ONE steering wheel sensor. It is at the bottom of the steering column, it is about the size of a small donut and it cost about $80. The steering sensor will have to be replaced. There is no "RESET" for it. Texas Jim is Correct. Thanks to all for the info. This may be a stretch; but, when the mechanic changed all eight plugs, is it possible he buggered the steering column sensors for the stability system? Or, is this just totally bad luck timing in showing up? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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