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Are you GM loyal?

How loyal are you?   49 members have voted

  1. 1. Are you loyal to GM?

    • Yes, all of my vehicles are GM and I won't buy anything but GM!
      27
    • Not really, I just like Cadillac. I like other brand for trucks, vans, etc.
      16
    • I just like Cadillac, I buy whatever else is cheap.
      3
    • Absolutely not! I just got a good deal on my Cadillac.
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I used to be GM Loyal until I got a couple of bad Chevy's. I now have 2 foreign cars, 3 Fords, 2 Caddys and 1 Chevy. I have learned you get good ones and bad ones no matter what you buy. I always heard everything good about Hondas....I bought a brand new one and it wasn't great at all. I had a lot of problems. On the other hand, I owned an '85 Cimmaron and it was great car and I finally junked it with 175,000 miles on it!!! You just never know.


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2007 Chrysler Aspen

2001 Cadillac Seville STS

2000 Ford Ranger XLT
1998 Mitsubishi Spyder Convertible

1996 Saturn SC-1
1991 Ford F-150
1979 Chevrolet Caprice
1968 Ford LTD
1965 VW Beetle "Herbie The Love Bug Replica**

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I drove nothing but Oldsmobiles for 32 years from 1963 to 1995. In the past 13 years I've had 3 Cadillacs, two STS's and, currently, my 08 CTS in crystal red with Direct Injection. What a car!

So I guess I'm loyal to GM all the way; but I might make an exception for a shiny new Bentley if I could afford it.! Not like that's ever gonna be a problem.

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Yup, i am a GM guy thru and thru! If I end up gettting this ETC tonight I'll have 4 in my garage/driveway again. I probably have owned over 25 in my lifetime compared to 5 other makes. Those "others" were very short stints I might add! Hey, everyone makes mistakes right? :P


'03 Cadillac SLS 4.6 Northstar, 139K mi.

'02 Audi A4, 3.0L V6, 6spd, 250K mi
'06 Saab 9-7X, 5.3i V8, 162K mi
'70 Firebird Formula 400, Bored+.04, RAIII heads, M21 4spd., in-process restoration!

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I didn't vote because none of the options applied to me.

For the past 20 years, my wife and I have driven Chevrolets, Pontiacs, Buicks, Oldsmobiles, Cadillacs, a GMC pickup, and no other makes. During that time, I have driven a Chevy Caprice Classic, a Buick Electra, two Devilles and an Eldorado. If I had to replace my current Deville today, I would buy another Deville. Would I consider another make in the future? You bet, It all depends on what's out there at the time.


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Warren,

OMG! I don't want to hurt any feelings here, but doing burnouts is one of the most stupid things you can do with a car. Just my opinion.

Such an abuse and waste of material and energy!

But maybe that's just me...

But in fact, this is an Opel Diplomat (with Dutch license plates) of mid-seventies vintage. These were great cars. See attached a picture of my Opel Admiral, built in 1968. This is the predecessor of the type in the youtube video. Isn't that a genuine GM car?

Best

Stefan

No feelings of mine were hurt; I simply thought the video humorous. I once heard one of the best definitions of humor: "Humor is tragedy happening to someone else." Think of someone slipping on a banana peel. With that in mind, perhaps you might see the burnout video as the effort of an A__hole, thus full of humor.

Back in the 70's I did a two week fly-drive tour of England-Scotland-Ireland (with a side of France from Dover). I noticed those (Admiral) things and wondered what the heck they were. I had NO idea they had GM engines under the hood! But I thought they looked sharp for their time.

Regards,

Warren


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My opinion only...

GM has vastly improved their product lineup these past few years there's really no reason to buy foreign.

With the devastation wrought on our manufacturing base by the scam of "Free Trade" I buy only American whenever I have the opportunity.

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My opinion only...

GM has vastly improved their product lineup these past few years there's really no reason to buy foreign.

With the devastation wrought on our manufacturing base by the scam of "Free Trade" I buy only American whenever I have the opportunity.

I really think they have been great forever. I mean they have their moments (4.1 for example), but come one, who doesn't? I know lots and LOTS of people who have well into the 200,000s with their GMs. I have a 84 suburban with 152,000, a 92 silverado with 148,000 and have had almost every other GM with well into the 100,000s and have had no major problems with any of them. The funny thing is, I abuse the crap out of them. If you do any sort of maintence, you're GMs will last forever.

What really bugs me is when someone buys a GM that is 20 years old and 150,000 miles or so and something breaks on it and they start saying GM vehicles are crap. Then they go buy a Honda or Toyota that is 3 years old with 20,000 miles and say they are so much better built and that they will never buy GM again.

I will never buy a foreign vehicle. Even if GM goes under (like that will ever happen) I will continue to buy the older ones. They ride better, get close to the same or better fuel economy, and in my opinion last longer with more abuse. It's GM for this cat until the day I die.


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- 79 Coupe DeVille, Tan with Tan top

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They ride better, get close to the same or better fuel economy, and in my opinion last longer with more abuse. It's GM for this cat until the day I die.

I agree

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I LIKE CADILLAC, on my 5th one, I buy American when I can (had 4 Thunderbirds but they made it a two seater and then killed it). Just bought a 2008 Honda Civic stick for my son. $219 a month on a 36 month lease, got to tell you I save half the payment on gas vs his Jeep Cherokee.

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I've had a Dodge Ram, a couple Chevy Blazers, a Cutlass Supreme and a Ford Probe that I got for really cheap. This is my first Cadi and I'll be sticking with them I think. I'm pretty GM loyal, the Ram was my first car and the Probe was a cheapie that I only drove for a little while because I really needed a car and my buddy really needed to sell it.

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Cadillac is the only GM product I would ever buy. The rest are junk. Been there, done that, learned lesson.

Current vehicles include;

1997 Eldorado ETC

1986 Ford F250 XLT Lariat 4X4

1977 1/2 Ford F250 4X4

1978 Ford Bronco 4X4

1971 Ford F250 4X4

1985 Ford Tempo ( The wife's grocery getter)

1967 Ford Mustang GT Fastback ( BB 390 4 speed )

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In my family we prefer GM and Cadillac in particular. My other ride is a '95 Jaguar XJS convertible. I think GM has the product range and quality to

beat out every other manufacturer.

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I've had a lot of Chevrolets in my time, too many to count. New Chevrolets included a 1966 427 Corvette and a 1973 Caprice Estate 454 that I bought two weeks before the Arab Oil Embargo of October 1973. Eventually I horse-traded a couple of times and ended up with a 1969 Chevrolet 427 station wagon that more than replaced it -- twice the gas mileage and twice the horsepower -- and I drove that car seven years.

I'm not 100% GM loyal, although I voted that way because that is the closest option by far on the poll. We had a Chevrolet dealer sell us a Pontiac T-1000 (think Chevette) in 1985 that had been an Avis rental car and they wanted to stick it to us again when we came back with the evidence of illegal title laundering in hand to trade the car. We get a Ford Escort instead, and my wife's car became a Ford Tempo; I got over it and our next cars were Pontiacs. My escort was hit hard broadside running a green light and the Tempo didn't last. I have had used cars of opportunity for short periods that were not GM. The only real exception was a 1965 Plymouth Fury 318 two-barrel that a neighbor sold me cheap at 30,000 miles because it was burning oil. A $50 tune-up that included replacing a clogged PCV valve straightened it right out and it became a very good car for several years.

My experience with the non-GM cars tells the tale. A ten-year-old old 1952 Ford that I had for a couple of months had the suspension beat out of it before I got it, particularly the front suspension travel limit bumpers, and a good hit on a railroad track would rip out the shock absorber anchors. In the 1970's when I was driving my 1969 station wagon, I found that it was superior to all my friend's high-end cars in the suspension, interior, and maintenance and reliability, not just the drive train, regardless of make, model, or model year. In particular I had a very competitive friend who drove a late 1960's Mercury station wagon that was very comparable, including a 335 hp Edsel 410 cid drive train. This was Seattle, which has lots of city streets with high grades that go level to cross streets then abruptly ramp to high grades on the other side, like San Francisco. I routinely jumped the ends of the uphill ramps on green lights, and sometimes even on startups from stop signs if I felt like it; I thought that this was easier on my THM 400. After a few rides in my car, he dropped all mention of the Mercury and publicly gushed about my station wagon.

When my mother died, she left a four-year-old Lincoln Town Car and a spoiled Chihuahua. We took the Chihuahua. My sister argued over who would NOT get the car and we ended up selling it under wholesale. It was a very nice car, quite competent with a bulletproof Lincoln-tuned and built 302, firm but very comfortable suspension; think Motor Trend Car of the Year for 1988. But it was a bore to drive, with a so-so interior and paint job, etc.

The percentage of cars sold that are still on the road versus age is a very good indicator of a combination of owner loyalty to a particular car and the maintainability of that model. My perception is that this is very good for Cadillacs but you don't see many 10-year-old Lincolns, Lexus', Infinitis, Mercedes, or very many of the lesser sedans from any of the manufacturers. Mercedes was once very good for this but not in the last 20 years or so. There are a lot of old 300-series BMWs out there but I do wonder about maintainability. I would like to see some hard statistics on this for Cadillacs and other makes and models.

I do believe that you can get good gas mileage from Chevrolet and other GM lines. The Chevrolet line with standard engines and manual transmission will get you EPA fuel economy in the range 22-24 city, 30-34 highway. Of course, if you want the Corvette Z06, then EPA is 15/24 -- still tops in its class.

The Ford Focus can get you EPA 24/35, which compares with 24/34 for a comparable Aveo.

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this caddy is the first G/M i have owned since about 81 and that was a toronado oldsmobile good car great ride but not very dependable really i was always working on it but did get 100,000 miles on it

Then i bought a new 88 grand marquis mercury never had any problems from it but i was just not comfortable in it

other than that i have mostly owned fords and had good luck with them and STILL drive a 69 f100 truck i use to haul firewood and has never let me down with the old F/E 390 engine in itNew Cars i think other than cadillacs are ALL pretty much JUNK from what i can see i drive over 100,000 miles a year in a semi truck and cannot stand to be cooped up in a small car that is full of road noise and rides like a roller skate the new Lincolns look like CRAP and all the rest of the foreign junk on the road untill someone makes a better car i will most likely stay a caddy man at least they still have style and are safe to drive

gordon

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I've had pretty good luck with both GM and FORD;

1968 Chevy Bel Air; 1974 - 1981 100K+ (running good when I traded it)

1970 Pontiac T/A; 1978 - Present 100K+ (still own, runs good)

1979 Olds Cutlass; 1981 - 1982 11K (a lemon, dropped this thing like a bad habit)

1982 Ford Fairmont: 1982 - 1990 123K+ (running strong when I traded it)

1989 Mercury Sable; 1990 - 2001 230+ (she was tired)

1992 Ford Bronco: 1997 - Present; 196K and running strong

1996 Dodge Carivan: 2001 - 2002 Someone in a Toyota Tundra was scratching the itch behind their fly when my wife was rear ended, totaling the car. It was a nice car though.

1998 Pontiac Bonneville: 2002 - 2003 68K Transmission issues

1992 Ford Taurus SHO: 2002 - 2003 84K running strong when I got rid of it, parts availability were starining to be a issue.

2002 Ford Windstar: 2003 - Present 135K+ still running strong

2001 Cadillac STS; 2003 - Present 91K and running good.

Jim

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Ya know,,,, I guess I've Always thought of myself as "GM Loyal". I think of GM cars first and have certainly owned more of them than any other cars. BUT...

I look in the driveway and I see my wifes PT Cruiser (she's on her 3rd), My F350 diesel, and of course, the '05 STS

So, wake-up call for me, maybe not... ;)

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No, im def not loyal to GM. In fact im not loyal to any company. who ever makes the best product for what i can afford is what i buy. But with that said if i have a great exp with one brand of product im more likely to buy more of that brand. Iv found with cars and trucks no one is top dog all the time and my money is to hard to come by to blindly give it to a company. So far im very happy with my deville. if it proves to be reliable then my next car will prob be a caddy. But if in say 5 or 6 years if ford,dodge mazda ect has a car that looks better,has more HP and is better built that i could afford i would def give it a look.

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I think it's time to freeze this poll and have another one. We can compare the polls for different year periods, but most importantly before and after the bankruptcy.


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