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Hello Bruce! Thanks for a great forum! Very useful. Is it possible for me to change my user name somehow? Thanks in advance. Fred
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You get that ability in user panel after a certain nbr of posts as I recall. I can change your display name for you; what would you like it changed to?
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Yes, you're absolutely right. Two different things. Sorry if beeing messy, I'm one hundred percent rookie on these sort of things. No ABS lamp illuminated. The sensors are connected. I checked them today (if we're talking about the sensors with ball joint and the box with the plastic filler next to the shock). The shocks are changed about a year ago - Arnott. The SRC message has been present for 10+ years. I'm thinking about doing the circuit Barry94 wrote about but with the S013 and S015, it perhaps won't kill the message anyway .. -
Alright, I see. Btw, do you know if S015/S013 codes set the SRC-message?
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I'm also quite confused, also thought it wasn't possible but here is one section of the bulletin that describes the procedure: 1992-1993 Allante, 1993-1996 Eldorado,1993-1996 Seville, 1993-1995 Concours These models require installation of a jumper harness connection. Remove the harness connector from the shock during shock replacement. Install the jumper, GM P/N 88961530. Securely tie off the jumper to the harness in order to avoid possible damage while in use. Effective repair requires four (4) jumpers – one for each “corner” of the vehicle. Important: Do not flash the controller with the electronic shocks connected to the vehicle harness. Controller damage may occur. Later Delco Electronics controllers must be flashed with Tech 2. Turn the key to the on position, with the engine off . Using the Tech 2, navigate as follows: Diagnostics/ Model Year/ Passenger Car/ Chassis/ Product Line/ CVRSS/ ALC/ Strut Removal Recalibration . Select F0: CVRSS Recalibration. Follow all Tech 2 “on screen” instructions. After performing the Strut Removal Recalibration procedure, cycle the ignition from “on” to “off” and then back to “on”. Verify that the ride control warning indicator is no longer illuminated.
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If someone likes to disable the suspension system on 1993-1996 Seville after installing passive shocks, a jumper needs to be installed on every corner (part nr. 88961530). If the car got the Speed Sensitive Suspension this will do the trick according to an old bulletin. But with the RSS system, it's not that easy and the module (located in the trunk) needs to be flashed using a GM Tech 2 device (not for sure it'll work that way either). The bulletin is also for Allante, Deville and Eldorado from the 90's among others. Send me a PM if you need instructions on how to get rid of that annoying message. On some models, Tech 2 isn't needed which makes it quite simple! I will just try to shake 'n wake my right sensors and/or cleaning the solenoids or something. Wish me luck, might be needed ..
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Does it mean I can't work on the sensors as described by Barry94? Will I disconnect important parts of the ABS system if I do so? I'm currently out of town without my manuals etc. As KHE earlier wrote, the Stabilitrak was new for model year 1997, right. So there are crappy road conditions over there also? With a trip from L.V. to St. George, Utah fresh in mind I see American road conditions like paradise.
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Alright, I see. Roads in Nevada and California are more or less like runways. Over here, in Scandinavia, the roads can be quite bumpy with lots of damaged sections. The SRC message is very common and I would say 90% av the cars I've met so far has it. But unfortunately, I never pulled codes out of them so I can't say it's the sensors in those cases. My car has been driven in sub-arctic north Sweden for much of it's lifetime. Snowstorms and temperatures around -35 degrees is not that uncommon. It might be the cause. Just speculating. But it's very interesting when it comes to this type of suspension systems, I've seen them fail on Mercedes S-class, SL-class, BMW 7-series, Jaguars, Lincolns and even Volvos.
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I'm thinking that this "Service Ride Control" message probably appears on every single car that has 60.000 miles or more .. Or am I wrong? Does people use to solve this error by replacing RSS parts or do they simply ignore this message? Just thinking. My '97 STS never displayed the SERVICE RIDE CONTROL message - It had 172,000+ miles on it when I replaced the original rear shocks. The front struts are still original and the car has 180,500 miles on it. I had to replace the rear shocks not due to anything with the ride control system but it was the air bladders that were rotted and the car would not level out. Since you have two error codes that show position sensors, I would get a hold of a shop manual and perform the troubleshooting steps listed for each code. The issue may be something simple such as a wire that is chafed or connector plugs that are not making proper contact., etc. Yeah, good idea. I will. A bit strange that both sensors on the right side is out while the left side seems to be intact .. Do you think they are independent of each other?
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Thanks for your opinions. I might try fixing the circuit as Barry94 described, found his post. I'm thinking that this "Service Ride Control" message probably appears on every single car that has 60.000 miles or more .. Or am I wrong? Does people use to solve this error by replacing RSS parts or do they simply ignore this message? Just thinking.
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I see .. Well, I've also understood the sensors are there for the suspension system only. Thanks for the advice about Barrys method but I do believe it's kinda complex. But I might give it a try. It seems to be the only way to bypass it (except buying new sensors, of course). If anyone got an easier fix for the "Service Ride Control"-message, pls tell!
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.. And the sensors (as the codes are for) doesn't have any function due to the recent replacement of the whole suspension system. Anyone know how to bypass "Service Ride Control" or simply put these two codes out? Code S061 Current Code S063 Current Thanks for the advice. I cleared the history, drove it for 20 km and ended up with these codes: Code S061 Current Code S063 Current
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Thanks for the advice. I cleared the history, drove it for 20 km and ended up with these codes: Code S061 Current Code S063 Current
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Hello! Sorry for a very late reply, I never received notice by e-mail. However, I pulled the codes and they're all history: Code P052 History (PCM Keep Alive Memory Reset) Code P071 History (Intermittent Manifold Absoulute Pressure) Code P109 History (PCM Keep Alive Memory Reset) Code I052 History No ACP Codes No SIR Codes No TCS Codes Code S103 History Code S036 History Code S044 History Code S050 History Code S061 History Code S063 History PCM?
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I recently replaced all four shocks/struts with new ones from Arnott. The message "Service Ride Control" still comes up every time I start my car and I know the reason could be non-working solenoids, sensors etc. But as I replaced the shocks and the old suspension system is no longer operational, I like to get rid of that annoying message. I searched the whole net for an answer. Could anyone help me? How can I bypass and permanently delete "Service Ride Control" on a Cadillac Seville STS 1994? Thanks a lot in advance! Best regards. Fred from Sweden
